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Post  Skeptical on Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:13 pm

ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public

You’ve got to hand it to MIT economist Jonathan Gruber. The guy dubbed the “Obamacare architect” is a viral YouTube sensation. A few months back, he was caught on tape admitting that Obamacare doesn’t provide subsidies for federally-run insurance exchanges; it’s now the topic of a new case before the Supreme Court. Today, new video surfaced in which Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.

The new Gruber comments come from a panel discussion that he joined on October 17, 2013 at the University of Pennsylvania’s Leonard Davis Institute of Health Economics. He was joined on the panel by Penn health economist Mark Pauly. Patrick Howley of the Daily Caller was the first to flag Gruber’s remarks.

In fairness to Gruber, American voters are not the only people whose intelligence he questions; elsewhere in the discussion, he describes New York Sen. Chuck Schumer (D.) as someone who “as far as I can tell, doesn’t understand economics” and calls a staffer for Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine)—presumably William Pewen—an “idiot.”

Gruber made an argument that many of Obamacare’s critics have long made, including me. It’s that the law’s complex system of insurance regulation is a way of concealing from voters what Obamacare really is: a huge redistribution of wealth from the young and healthy to the old and unhealthy. In the video, Gruber points out that if Democrats had been honest about these facts, and that the law’s individual mandate is in effect a major tax hike, Obamacare would never have passed Congress.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/11/10/aca-architect-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-led-us-to-hide-obamacares-tax-hikes-and-subsidies-from-the-public/
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Re: The latest on Obamacare

Post  Jammer on Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:20 pm

Skeptical wrote:ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public


The stupidity of the American voter has led to every almost every problem we have in this country.  Progressive liberal policies and principles are the root cause of almost every problem we face.  

Get rid of the progressive liberals and we can get this country headed back in the right direction.   And it is not just the progressive liberal politicians, it is really the idiots living right down the street that vote for these scum bags who are the real problem.
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Post  Just Braying It on Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:17 am

Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public


The stupidity of the American voter has led to every almost every problem we have in this country.  Progressive liberal policies and principles are the root cause of almost every problem we face.  

Get rid of the progressive liberals and we can get this country headed back in the right direction.   And it is not just the progressive liberal politicians, it is really the idiots living right down the street that vote for these scum bags who are the real problem.

The scary thing is, this sounds like something one of those crazy people would say right before they shoot up a mall or something. The really scary thing is that I don't think you're kidding.

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Re: The latest on Obamacare

Post  Jammer on Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:44 am

Liberal wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public


The stupidity of the American voter has led to every almost every problem we have in this country.  Progressive liberal policies and principles are the root cause of almost every problem we face.  

Get rid of the progressive liberals and we can get this country headed back in the right direction.   And it is not just the progressive liberal politicians, it is really the idiots living right down the street that vote for these scum bags who are the real problem.

The scary thing is, this sounds like something one of those crazy people would say right before they shoot up a mall or something. The really scary thing is that I don't think you're kidding.

Hardly, but what would one expect from a moron liberal?

However you are right about one thing, I am not kidding.  I will never knowingly hire a progressive liberal, do business with one unless there is absolutely no other alternative, donate to any cause that aids progressive liberals or even talk to one or anything thing else with a known progressive liberal.   You people are garbage.

I will be using the buy partisan dot com app whenever I can to avoid spending money with liberal leaning companies.   Conservatives can check it out at:

http://www.spendconsciously.com/

If all conservatives would treat the progressive liberals for the scum they really are, it would not be long before they would either come to their senses or be ostracized.  It would appear that you have no senses to come to, so adios azzhole.
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Re: The latest on Obamacare

Post  Darth Cheney on Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:53 pm

Jammer wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public


The stupidity of the American voter has led to every almost every problem we have in this country.  Progressive liberal policies and principles are the root cause of almost every problem we face.  

Get rid of the progressive liberals and we can get this country headed back in the right direction.   And it is not just the progressive liberal politicians, it is really the idiots living right down the street that vote for these scum bags who are the real problem.

The scary thing is, this sounds like something one of those crazy people would say right before they shoot up a mall or something. The really scary thing is that I don't think you're kidding.

Hardly, but what would one expect from a moron liberal?


However you are right about one thing, I am not kidding.  I will never knowingly hire a progressive liberal, do business with one unless there is absolutely no other alternative, donate to any cause that aids progressive liberals or even talk to one or anything thing else with a known progressive liberal.   You people are garbage.

I will be using the buy partisan dot com app whenever I can to avoid spending money with liberal leaning companies.   Conservatives can check it out at:

http://www.spendconsciously.com/

If all conservatives would treat the progressive liberals for the scum they really are, it would not be long before they would either come to their senses or be ostracized.  It would appear that you have no senses to come to, so adios azzhole.

There is an app you scan any bar code and it tells you how the board of directors vote, who they give campaign contributions to, and how the workers vote. I think it is buy partisan.
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Re: The latest on Obamacare

Post  Jammer on Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:32 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public


The stupidity of the American voter has led to every almost every problem we have in this country.  Progressive liberal policies and principles are the root cause of almost every problem we face.  

Get rid of the progressive liberals and we can get this country headed back in the right direction.   And it is not just the progressive liberal politicians, it is really the idiots living right down the street that vote for these scum bags who are the real problem.

The scary thing is, this sounds like something one of those crazy people would say right before they shoot up a mall or something. The really scary thing is that I don't think you're kidding.

Hardly, but what would one expect from a moron liberal?


However you are right about one thing, I am not kidding.  I will never knowingly hire a progressive liberal, do business with one unless there is absolutely no other alternative, donate to any cause that aids progressive liberals or even talk to one or anything thing else with a known progressive liberal.   You people are garbage.

I will be using the buy partisan dot com app whenever I can to avoid spending money with liberal leaning companies.   Conservatives can check it out at:

http://www.spendconsciously.com/

If all conservatives would treat the progressive liberals for the scum they really are, it would not be long before they would either come to their senses or be ostracized.  It would appear that you have no senses to come to, so adios azzhole.

There is an app you scan any bar code and it tells you how the board of directors vote, who they give campaign contributions to, and how the workers vote. I think it is buy partisan.

Yes, that is the one I mention above.   I have used it but it is still in its Beta version and only has something like 250 companies loaded.   However, I have high hopes for it and speaking of HOPES - someday I HOPE to be able to avoid these slimy progressive liberals in everything I do and that certainly includes giving a penny to them.  They make me sick to my stomach.  They are evil.
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Re: The latest on Obamacare

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:27 pm




Lisa Benson nails it again.
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Re: The latest on Obamacare

Post  Darth Cheney on Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:58 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:


Lisa Benson nails it again.

It will be a really sad day when the Supremes take away this freebie from all the moochers and slugs in our society.
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