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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:13 am

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

I wasn't there, so I don't know if Hitler said it or not.  You can find the statement posted all over the internet and you can find liberals trying to say it was not accurate.  However, what you can't find is where that statement is contradictory with what Hitler's laws put in place.  Again there are numerous sites with information on that in addition to the one I posted.

Here is an excerpt from that link:

Here are some key aspects of the 1938 law:

Police permission was required to own a handgun;

– All firearms had to be registered;

– Any Germans who enjoyed shooting bolt-action rifles were told to join the army “if they wished to shoot ‘military’ rifles,” writes LaPierre, in his book;

– The Nazi regime “also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnacht – the ‘night of broken glass’ – when stormtroopers attacked synagogues and Jews throughout Germany,” he wrote;

– Firearms registration lists were used to identify (and persecute) gun owners


And finally what is obvious is that Hitler's actions and laws are completely in line with what you and your progressive liberal scum believe is good for America.  You are truly despicable.

Unfortunately again, your B.S. argument on this simply doesn't hold water.  In 1938 Hitler put gun ownership on the fast track for a large number of his citizens.

Germany had their guns taken away after they lost WWI in the Treaty of Versailles(not by Hitler), and for good reason.  They were a threat to the safety of not only the region especially, but to the entire world.  When you don't handle your guns in a formidable manner, we as a society don't allow you to have them.

Without the rearming his Nazi army, which was made possible by his new gun laws, he could not have started the genocide that ensued.  The selective targeting of Jews in disarmament by an evil dictator certainly threw fuel on the fire, but it was hardly the leading factor you would like to claim it was.

This makes the B.S. fake quote you gave completely absurd, along with the rest of your argument.

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Re: Man shopping for coffee creamer at Walmart attacked by vigilante for carrying gun he was legally permitted to have

Post  Jammer on Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:42 am

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  :

I wasn't there, so I don't know if Hitler said it or not.  You can find the statement posted all over the internet and you can find liberals trying to say it was not accurate.  However, what you can't find is where that statement is contradictory with what Hitler's laws put in place.  Again there are numerous sites with information on that in addition to the one I posted.

Here is an excerpt from that link:

Here are some key aspects of the 1938 law:

Police permission was required to own a handgun;

– All firearms had to be registered;

– Any Germans who enjoyed shooting bolt-action rifles were told to join the army “if they wished to shoot ‘military’ rifles,” writes LaPierre, in his book;

– The Nazi regime “also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnacht – the ‘night of broken glass’ – when stormtroopers attacked synagogues and Jews throughout Germany,” he wrote;

– Firearms registration lists were used to identify (and persecute) gun owners


And finally what is obvious is that Hitler's actions and laws are completely in line with what you and your progressive liberal scum believe is good for America.  You are truly despicable.

Unfortunately again, your B.S. argument on this simply doesn't hold water.  In 1938 Hitler put gun ownership on the fast track for a large number of his citizens.

Germany had their guns taken away after they lost WWI in the Treaty of Versailles(not by Hitler), and for good reason.  They were a threat to the safety of not only the region especially, but to the entire world.  When you don't handle your guns in a formidable manner, we as a society don't allow you to have them.

Without the rearming his Nazi army, which was made possible by his new gun laws, he could not have started the genocide that ensued.  The selective targeting of Jews in disarmament by an evil dictator certainly threw fuel on the fire, but it was hardly the leading factor you would like to claim it was.

This makes the B.S. fake quote you gave completely absurd, along with the rest of your argument.

You are a prime example of an useful idiot used by the socialist left, you will believe anything they tell you.  Here is another Hitler quote for you to Google and find some deranged liberal who claims it is false.
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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.
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And I would like your proof cited where any of the listed elements from above of the 1938 German gun law are not accurate:

Police permission was required to own a handgun;

– All firearms had to be registered;

– Any Germans who enjoyed shooting bolt-action rifles were told to join the army “if they wished to shoot ‘military’ rifles,” writes LaPierre, in his book;

– The Nazi regime “also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnacht – the ‘night of broken glass’ – when stormtroopers attacked synagogues and Jews throughout Germany,” he wrote;

– Firearms registration lists were used to identify (and persecute) gun owners
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Re: Man shopping for coffee creamer at Walmart attacked by vigilante for carrying gun he was legally permitted to have

Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:03 am

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  :

I wasn't there, so I don't know if Hitler said it or not.  You can find the statement posted all over the internet and you can find liberals trying to say it was not accurate.  However, what you can't find is where that statement is contradictory with what Hitler's laws put in place.  Again there are numerous sites with information on that in addition to the one I posted.

Here is an excerpt from that link:

Here are some key aspects of the 1938 law:

Police permission was required to own a handgun;

– All firearms had to be registered;

– Any Germans who enjoyed shooting bolt-action rifles were told to join the army “if they wished to shoot ‘military’ rifles,” writes LaPierre, in his book;

– The Nazi regime “also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnacht – the ‘night of broken glass’ – when stormtroopers attacked synagogues and Jews throughout Germany,” he wrote;

– Firearms registration lists were used to identify (and persecute) gun owners


And finally what is obvious is that Hitler's actions and laws are completely in line with what you and your progressive liberal scum believe is good for America.  You are truly despicable.

Unfortunately again, your B.S. argument on this simply doesn't hold water.  In 1938 Hitler put gun ownership on the fast track for a large number of his citizens.

Germany had their guns taken away after they lost WWI in the Treaty of Versailles(not by Hitler), and for good reason.  They were a threat to the safety of not only the region especially, but to the entire world.  When you don't handle your guns in a formidable manner, we as a society don't allow you to have them.

Without the rearming his Nazi army, which was made possible by his new gun laws, he could not have started the genocide that ensued.  The selective targeting of Jews in disarmament by an evil dictator certainly threw fuel on the fire, but it was hardly the leading factor you would like to claim it was.

This makes the B.S. fake quote you gave completely absurd, along with the rest of your argument.

You are a prime example of an useful idiot used by the socialist left, you will believe anything they tell you.  Here is another Hitler quote for you to Google and find some deranged liberal who claims it is false.
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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.
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And I would like your proof cited where any of the listed elements from above of the 1938 German gun law are not accurate:

Police permission was required to own a handgun;

– All firearms had to be registered;

– Any Germans who enjoyed shooting bolt-action rifles were told to join the army “if they wished to shoot ‘military’ rifles,” writes LaPierre, in his book;

– The Nazi regime “also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnacht – the ‘night of broken glass’ – when stormtroopers attacked synagogues and Jews throughout Germany,” he wrote;

– Firearms registration lists were used to identify (and persecute) gun owners

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.
The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

If you look up Bernard E. Harcourt a Law Professor with the University of Chicago, there is a link to a downloadable paper he wrote on the subject.

As far a your bullet points, they are likely indicative of what this evil dictator did to the Jews. But it's merely a small piece of the puzzle.

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Post  Skeptical on Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:10 am

Dr. Jones wrote:    As far a your bullet points, they are likely indicative of what this evil dictator did to the Jews.  But it's merely a small piece of the puzzle.

Here are your "hundreds of thousands" or " six million deaths" you mentioned.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:14 am

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    As far a your bullet points, they are likely indicative of what this evil dictator did to the Jews.  But it's merely a small piece of the puzzle.

Here are your "hundreds of thousands" or " six million deaths" you mentioned.

What are you talking about?

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Post  Jammer on Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:08 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:  
University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.
The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

If you look up Bernard E. Harcourt a Law Professor with the University of Chicago, there is a link to a downloadable paper he wrote on the subject.

As far a your bullet points, they are likely indicative of what this evil dictator did to the Jews.  But it's merely a small piece of the puzzle.

Pure liberal distortion.  I have not seen a single claim in this thread that said Hitler had tougher gun laws than what existed immediately after WW I.  That is a pure bull shite liberal strategy of "hey look over there".

Hitler embraced gun control laws that favored his Nazi party and hindered his adversaries - period, there is no denying that.

To determine what a person is like you need to review their philosophies and compare them to history and see where that person would have stood in those times.  From your comments on here, it is quite clear that you would have stood alongside of these people:

Hitler in 1938 with his gun control laws.

Vladimir Lenin in 1917 with his beliefs on socialism and redistribution of wealth.

Benito Mussolini in 1940 with his belief in the  importance of the State and acceptance that the individual has rights in so far as their interests coincide with those of the State'

The Tories or Loyalists of 1776 with his belief that as long as the government subsidizes him, he should be loyal to the dictator/monarch.

Al Sharpton in 2014 with his belief that diversity in America is a way to keep classes separate and the best way to move your agenda is to have class warfare.

Barack Obama in that lies and distortions are perfectly acceptable ways to advance your evil socialist agenda.

Howard Dean in that the patriotic Americans who rally around our Founding Principles are extremists.

Joseph Stalin in 1945 with his belief that local government was meaningless and the only true government is an all controlling central government.

Che Guevara in the 1960's with his hatred for capitalism.

Adolf Hitler again with his desire for the central government to control education and teach "culture" or what we often call political correctness.

And the last Roman Emperor who in 476 was still trying to hang onto his empire, one that a REPUBLIC built, by using his treasury to hand out "entitlements to its citizens to control them and have them believe everything is alright.

So when I look at Dr. Jones' stated beliefs on this forum and compare them to history, that is what I see.  And if you were to put all of those people into a blender and turn it on, you would end up with Dr. Jones.  I will certainly say a prayer every night that unsuspecting virtuous Americans do not have the misfortune to cross the path of the rather despicable and evil person.
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Post  Skeptical on Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:20 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    As far a your bullet points, they are likely indicative of what this evil dictator did to the Jews.  But it's merely a small piece of the puzzle.

Here are your "hundreds of thousands" or " six million deaths" you mentioned.

What are you talking about?

You do need to read and understand a little history of Hitler and his actions against Jews and other non Jewish groups.
The figure of Jews killed is put at six million but when all the deaths to Jews and non Jews the figure is closer to 11 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

One reason but not the only reason for ease the Jews were rounded up and killed was because of Hitler's gun laws prohibiting the Jews from having guns.  They were left without much personal defense.

Here is a theoretical or hypothetical question for you:  Considering the majority of legally owned guns in the US are recorded by name and address how difficult would it be for a person having a similar thought process as Hitler use those documents to seize the guns from those he/she would see as a threat?


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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:34 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

I wasn't there, so I don't know if Hitler said it or not.  You can find the statement posted all over the internet and you can find liberals trying to say it was not accurate.  However, what you can't find is where that statement is contradictory with what Hitler's laws put in place.  Again there are numerous sites with information on that in addition to the one I posted.

Here is an excerpt from that link:

Here are some key aspects of the 1938 law:

Police permission was required to own a handgun;

– All firearms had to be registered;

– Any Germans who enjoyed shooting bolt-action rifles were told to join the army “if they wished to shoot ‘military’ rifles,” writes LaPierre, in his book;

– The Nazi regime “also enacted the “Regulations against Jews’ possession of weapons” within the days of Kristallnacht – the ‘night of broken glass’ – when stormtroopers attacked synagogues and Jews throughout Germany,” he wrote;

– Firearms registration lists were used to identify (and persecute) gun owners


And finally what is obvious is that Hitler's actions and laws are completely in line with what you and your progressive liberal scum believe is good for America.  You are truly despicable.

Unfortunately again, your B.S. argument on this simply doesn't hold water.  In 1938 Hitler put gun ownership on the fast track for a large number of his citizens.

Germany had their guns taken away after they lost WWI in the Treaty of Versailles(not by Hitler), and for good reason.  They were a threat to the safety of not only the region especially, but to the entire world.  When you don't handle your guns in a formidable manner, we as a society don't allow you to have them.

Without the rearming his Nazi army, which was made possible by his new gun laws, he could not have started the genocide that ensued.  The selective targeting of Jews in disarmament by an evil dictator certainly threw fuel on the fire, but it was hardly the leading factor you would like to claim it was.

This makes the B.S. fake quote you gave completely absurd, along with the rest of your argument.

Awhh, HayZeus Crisco. While it is true that the German military was disarmed by requirements of the Versailles Treaty, the citizenry was disarmed by the Weimar Republic in a failed attempt to retain some control of the country that was spiraling into civil war. From what I could find, the Versailles Treaty had no requirement in it that the citizenry be disarmed. In fact, the Germans started to secretly re-arm almost immediately after signing the treaty and of course accelerated the effort under Hitler. Just add history to the pile along with economics and politics on subjects you seem to be clueless on.

Although the Hitler quote is bogus (glad you finally did your homework) make no doubt that Hitler's "liberalization" of the stringent Weimar Republic gun laws was designed to favor those who supported him while removing the Jews ability to resist his efforts to exterminate them. One only needs to look to the failed Warsaw Uprising to see how a pitifully armed citizenry was able to put fear into the German military when they fought back. Imagine if they had possessed a modicum of the firepower owned by the American public.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:38 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
BladeRunner wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

Hundreds of thousands?

What history book you reading?

Six Million isn't hundreds of thousands?

Who talks like that? While "millions" can be hundreds of thousands, it could also be thousands of hundreds. I would place hundreds of thousands as being more than 200K but less than 900K.
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Post  nightlight88 on Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:45 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
BladeRunner wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

Hundreds of thousands?

What history book you reading?

Six Million isn't hundreds of thousands?

Who talks like that? While "millions" can be hundreds of thousands, it could also be thousands of hundreds.  I would place hundreds of thousands as being more than 200K but less than 900K.



Who talks like that??????????????

Braindamaged liberals.
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Post  Jammer on Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:24 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Awhh, HayZeus Crisco. While it is true that the German military was disarmed by requirements of the Versailles Treaty, the citizenry was disarmed by the Weimar Republic in a failed attempt to retain some control of the country that was spiraling into civil war. From what I could find, the Versailles Treaty had no requirement in it that the citizenry be disarmed. In fact, the Germans started to secretly re-arm almost immediately after signing the treaty and of course accelerated the effort under Hitler. Just add history to the pile along with economics and politics on subjects you seem to be clueless on.

Although the Hitler quote is bogus (glad you finally did your homework) make no doubt that Hitler's "liberalization" of the stringent Weimar Republic gun laws was designed to favor those who supported him while removing the Jews ability to resist his efforts to exterminate them. One only needs to look to the failed Warsaw Uprising to see how a pitifully armed citizenry was able to put fear into the German military when they fought back. Imagine if they had possessed a modicum of the firepower owned by the American public.

I would not be so quick to conclude that the quote is bogus.  I understand there may be an issue with properly documenting it, but I am not so sure it is false.  However, I do know progressive liberals like to take every opportunity to discredit anything that might stand in the way of their agenda.

Consider two things - first consider the context of the supposed quote and how it compares to actual history.  I see nothing in the quote that is contrary to actual history.

Second, take the supposed quote of "Don't fire until you see the white's of their eyes".  For many years I thought that to be a precise quote of an order given at the Battle of Bunker Hill.  However, I have learned that there is quite a bit of dispute over that issue.

And while there may be no way to prove whether that exact quote was uttered or not, I have zero doubt that at some point in the battle a Militia officer uttered some very similar type of order or perhaps even put stakes in the ground like what was shown this week on the History Channel's Sons of Liberty.

In any event, while there may be a dispute over the exact words used in that famous order at Bunker Hill, I have ZERO doubt that an order was given to that effect.  Likewise, I have almost zero doubt that Hitler at some point uttered a very similar phrase to what is under discussion.  Unfortunately he did not have C-SPAN videoing his every moment.  But I am not going to let that allow the liberals to do what they do so often.  It is time to stand up to these progressive liberal slime balls and quit letting them get away with their distractions, distortions and outright lies.

Try doing what I indicated above.  Line up what they advocate for today and compare that to history and who stood by those beliefs in the past.  The result is that these people are nothing short of evil.
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Post  Darth Cheney on Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:24 am

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes
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Post  nightlight88 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:14 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes


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Post  BladeRunner on Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:55 am

nightlight88 wrote:
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Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes


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Post  nightlight88 on Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:44 am

BladeRunner wrote:
nightlight88 wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Wow!!  You've gone from destroying Godwin's Law to playing the Grammar Police.  This place is a real class act.  I can see why you were all banished to the land of misfit posters.  

First off I would love to see some proof that Hitler ever actually said that.  My guess is that it's part of some sort of conservative wet dream.  If I'm right you can shove it up your ass, along with the rest of your silly little lies and half truths.

Secondly, the incessant conservative comparison of a very public debate over public safety(or anything else for that matter) and the atrocities of a very tyrannical dictator are abhorrent.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.  You continually disgrace the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people with your deplorable political antics.  Congratulations. Evil or Very Mad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes


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Post  Just Braying It on Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:36 pm

Jammer wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Awhh, HayZeus Crisco. While it is true that the German military was disarmed by requirements of the Versailles Treaty, the citizenry was disarmed by the Weimar Republic in a failed attempt to retain some control of the country that was spiraling into civil war. From what I could find, the Versailles Treaty had no requirement in it that the citizenry be disarmed. In fact, the Germans started to secretly re-arm almost immediately after signing the treaty and of course accelerated the effort under Hitler. Just add history to the pile along with economics and politics on subjects you seem to be clueless on.

Although the Hitler quote is bogus (glad you finally did your homework) make no doubt that Hitler's "liberalization" of the stringent Weimar Republic gun laws was designed to favor those who supported him while removing the Jews ability to resist his efforts to exterminate them. One only needs to look to the failed Warsaw Uprising to see how a pitifully armed citizenry was able to put fear into the German military when they fought back. Imagine if they had possessed a modicum of the firepower owned by the American public.

I would not be so quick to conclude that the quote is bogus.  I understand there may be an issue with properly documenting it, but I am not so sure it is false.  However, I do know progressive liberals like to take every opportunity to discredit anything that might stand in the way of their agenda.

Consider two things - first consider the context of the supposed quote and how it compares to actual history.  I see nothing in the quote that is contrary to actual history.

Second, take the supposed quote of "Don't fire until you see the white's of their eyes".  For many years I thought that to be a precise quote of an order given at the Battle of Bunker Hill.  However, I have learned that there is quite a bit of dispute over that issue.

And while there may be no way to prove whether that exact quote was uttered or not, I have zero doubt that at some point in the battle a Militia officer uttered some very similar type of order or perhaps even put stakes in the ground like what was shown this week on the History Channel's Sons of Liberty.

In any event, while there may be a dispute over the exact words used in that famous order at Bunker Hill, I have ZERO doubt that an order was given to that effect.  Likewise, I have almost zero doubt that Hitler at some point uttered a very similar phrase to what is under discussion.  Unfortunately he did not have C-SPAN videoing his every moment.  But I am not going to let that allow the liberals to do what they do so often.  It is time to stand up to these progressive liberal slime balls and quit letting them get away with their distractions, distortions and outright lies.

Try doing what I indicated above.  Line up what they advocate for today and compare that to history and who stood by those beliefs in the past.  The result is that these people are nothing short of evil.

Just go back and double check your in box. I'm sure there's a teabagger chain email in there somewhere that verifies everything you say.

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Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:09 am

Liberal wrote:
Jammer wrote:



I would not be so quick to conclude that the quote is bogus.  I understand there may be an issue with properly documenting it, but I am not so sure it is false.  However, I do know progressive liberals like to take every opportunity to discredit anything that might stand in the way of their agenda.

Consider two things - first consider the context of the supposed quote and how it compares to actual history.  I see nothing in the quote that is contrary to actual history.

Second, take the supposed quote of "Don't fire until you see the white's of their eyes".  For many years I thought that to be a precise quote of an order given at the Battle of Bunker Hill.  However, I have learned that there is quite a bit of dispute over that issue.

And while there may be no way to prove whether that exact quote was uttered or not, I have zero doubt that at some point in the battle a Militia officer uttered some very similar type of order or perhaps even put stakes in the ground like what was shown this week on the History Channel's Sons of Liberty.

In any event, while there may be a dispute over the exact words used in that famous order at Bunker Hill, I have ZERO doubt that an order was given to that effect.  Likewise, I have almost zero doubt that Hitler at some point uttered a very similar phrase to what is under discussion.  Unfortunately he did not have C-SPAN videoing his every moment.  But I am not going to let that allow the liberals to do what they do so often.  It is time to stand up to these progressive liberal slime balls and quit letting them get away with their distractions, distortions and outright lies.

Try doing what I indicated above.  Line up what they advocate for today and compare that to history and who stood by those beliefs in the past.  The result is that these people are nothing short of evil.

Just go back and double check your in box. I'm sure there's a teabagger chain email in there somewhere that verifies everything you say.

Liberals are morons and you are living proof.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/battle-of-bunker-hill-begins
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