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Post  Darth Cheney Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:41 am

The legend of the greatest sniper/American ever...Chris Kyle:




Just try keeping me away from the opening night!
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Post  Just Braying It Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:47 am

Darth Cheney wrote:The legend of the greatest sniper/American ever...Chris Kyle:




Just try keeping me away from the opening night!

Alvin York was ten times the man than Kyle was. But you probably have no idea who he was.

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:00 am

I'd watch it but gotta wait until it comes out on Netflix since I rarely make it to theaters anymore.
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Post  Darth Cheney Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:38 am

Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:The legend of the greatest sniper/American ever...Chris Kyle:




Just try keeping me away from the opening night!

Alvin York was ten times the man than Kyle was. But you probably have no idea who he was.

I can't recall a book written about him for the most confirmed sniper kills. Was he gay?
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Post  Just Braying It Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:11 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:The legend of the greatest sniper/American ever...Chris Kyle:




Just try keeping me away from the opening night!

Alvin York was ten times the man than Kyle was. But you probably have no idea who he was.

I can't recall a book written about him for the most confirmed sniper kills.  Was he gay?

He had a movie made about him and is considered by most as the bravest American soldier in WWI. But again, I would expect a person like you to know about a man like that. You seem more concerned with the Katy Perry/Fox News types.

And no, he wasn't gay. He was actually very religious. Not the "in name only" type of religious tha most of you guys are. He actually lived a life of God's will.

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:27 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:The legend of the greatest sniper/American ever...Chris Kyle:

Just try keeping me away from the opening night!

Alvin York was ten times the man than Kyle was. But you probably have no idea who he was.

I can't recall a book written about him for the most confirmed sniper kills.  Was he gay?

Well he was a hillbilly from Tennessee. Cue, "Dueling Banjos" from "Deliverance". affraid

"I bet you can squeal like a pig. Weeeeeeee!"   Suspect





Fun fact about Alvin York. He applied for conscientious objector status before being drafted. Then denied/lied he ever did even though there is an appeal with his signature on it.

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Post  Just Braying It Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:34 pm

Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:20 pm

Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.
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Post  Just Braying It Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:29 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

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Post  Skeptical Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:45 pm

Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

You seem well versed on this subject for being only 13 years old!
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Post  Just Braying It Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:52 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

You seem well versed on this subject for being only 13 years old!

You guys seen pretty old to not know anything about WWI!

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Post  Skeptical Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:50 pm

Liberal wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

You seem well versed on this subject for being only 13 years old!

You guys seen pretty old to not know anything about WWI!

What do you mean "YOU", I haven't participated in that discussion?

And who are you to say those who have commented actually are acquanted with the Sgt York story?
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Post  Just Braying It Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:53 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

You seem well versed on this subject for being only 13 years old!

You guys seen pretty old to not know anything about WWI!

What do you mean "YOU", I haven't participated in that discussion?

And who are you to say those who have commented actually are acquanted with the Sgt York story?

Teabaggers confuse easily, apparently.

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Post  Skeptical Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:24 pm

Liberal wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

You seem well versed on this subject for being only 13 years old!

You guys seen pretty old to not know anything about WWI!

What do you mean "YOU", I haven't participated in that discussion?

And who are you to say those who have commented actually are acquanted with the Sgt York story?

Teabaggers confuse easily, apparently.

Not nearly confused as you are. Heck you can't even recall who has expressed opinions as to whether Kyle or York was the better.

By the way, by all means please point to my comment(s) concerning who was better, Kyle or York?

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:57 pm

Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:Kyle was the type of soldier who hid behind his rifle and a scope hundreds of yards from the enemy.

York was the type that charged with no fear. You guys should read up on him some time.

Snipers literally have a target painted on their backs and is one of the more dangerous assignments in the military.

The York story is so colored with myth that it is difficult to separate facts from propaganda. The main myth is he single handedly captured the German positions when it was really a unit action. However Hollywood and the media literally constructed a distorted story. Go figure.

His unit of a handful of men captured 130+ Germans. Fact! And a guy running into multiple machine gun fire has a bigger target on his back than a sniper.

Back briefly to Kyle. As I said, snipers have a target painted on their back during operations and in particular with Kyle he had a bounty on his head.

"According to army intelligence, he was christened "The Devil" by Iraqi insurgents, who put a $20,000 (£13,000) bounty on his head."

Read it here in a BBC article "What goes on in the mind of a sniper?":

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16544490

As to York, there is no doubt that his platoon capture 132 Germans. Not in dispute whatsoever. He, however, did not run "into multiple machine gun fire" as you portray it. In actuality a direct assault was never used by York or any of his men. Two separate flanking movements resulted in a partial capture of the German prisoners and the destruction of a single machine gun nest. York and a fellow soldier then repelled a bayonet charge by a group of 12 Germans. Only then was a second group of Germans ordered by their captured commander (who mistakenly believed there were many more men then the surviving 8 men of York's platoon) to surrender. Returning from behind enemy lines, York's contingent then ran into another group of Germans who were also ordered to surrender by the captured German commanding officer.

Great recounting of the battle here along with maps showing movements of York and his unit. Click on the top search result listed:

http://books.google.com/books?id=cVj5AgAAQBAJ&pg=PT91&lpg=PT91&dq=york+unit+german+capture&source=bl&ots=kTTlBcDRMj&sig=YKHKdb41f0rHaKqDw3Dk4AP4te4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-o8xVJTTGpHCsATBkYGIDQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=german%20machine%20guns%20from%20the%20large%20hill%20in%20the%20center%20of%20the%20valley&f=false

HayZeus, you gotta stop watch that crap on the History Channel. It'll rot your brain. Class dismissed. study study study study
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Post  BladeRunner Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:12 am

Liberal wrote:

Alvin York was ten times the man than Kyle was. But you probably have no idea who he was.

Of course I heard of him. Gary Cooper played him in the movie Sargent York. He was a drunk who turned toward God, who in turn, blessed him.

Imagine that.
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Post  Just Braying It Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:26 pm

Pleases share your Avlin York hero stories here

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:57 pm

Finally got to see "American Sniper". I was waiting for it to come out on Netflix but then the wife told me she didn't want to watch it because she doesn't like that kind of movie. She wouldn't watch "Blackhawk Down" either. Rather than burn a DVD rental both of us could watch, I rented it on iTunes and streamed it through my Apple TV.

Definitely a tense movie with great acting from Bradley Cooper. I can't imagine pulling 4 tours of duty in that craphole Iraq especially with a growing family waiting for you back home. The psychological mind games he had to play to get himself psyched not only for battle but for the continual deployment is mind boggling. 4.5 out of 5 stars.



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Post  Just Braying It Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:40 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:Finally got to see "American Sniper". I was waiting for it to come out on Netflix but then the wife told me she didn't want to watch it because she doesn't like that kind of movie. She wouldn't watch "Blackhawk Down" either. Rather than burn a DVD rental both of us could watch, I rented it on iTunes and streamed it through my Apple TV.

Definitely a tense movie with great acting from Bradley Cooper. I can't imagine pulling 4 tours of duty in that craphole Iraq especially with a growing family waiting for you back home. The psychological mind games he had to play to get himself psyched not only for battle but for the continual deployment is mind boggling. 4.5 out of 5 stars.




Yet you downplay one tour in WWI? What a moron!

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:59 am

Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:Finally got to see "American Sniper". I was waiting for it to come out on Netflix but then the wife told me she didn't want to watch it because she doesn't like that kind of movie. She wouldn't watch "Blackhawk Down" either. Rather than burn a DVD rental both of us could watch, I rented it on iTunes and streamed it through my Apple TV.

Definitely a tense movie with great acting from Bradley Cooper. I can't imagine pulling 4 tours of duty in that craphole Iraq especially with a growing family waiting for you back home. The psychological mind games he had to play to get himself psyched not only for battle but for the continual deployment is mind boggling. 4.5 out of 5 stars.




Yet you downplay one tour in WWI? What a moron!

Nope, didn't downplay it at all. I just corrected your crappy history concerning the incident. Too bad you slept through history class, you missed a lot.
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