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Post  Jammer on Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:28 pm

I have a question for you.  I will post my answer after those brave enough to respond offer their thoughts.

If an election was approaching and there were several candidates running for a legislative position and you knew nothing about them including what political party they belonged to and you were only able to ask them one single question.  What would that question be?

It doesn't make any difference whether the race is a state legislative race or a US Congressional race or whether it is for the House Chamber or the Senate.  I personally believe there is one single question that a conservative voter could ask that would provide tremendous insight on whether that particular candidate might be worthy of your vote.  Depending on the answer the candidate gave you, a certain answer will almost guarantee that a conservative would be disappointed if that candidate won.

Your question would be?
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Re: A question for you

Post  Alleycat on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:38 pm

Will you faithfully support the Constitution of the United States?

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Re: A question for you

Post  Jammer on Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:56 am

Alleycat wrote:Will you faithfully support the Constitution of the United States?

Well Alleycat, it looks like it is only the two of us that want to come out and play this game, so I will post my answer below with a little supporting logic.  I would be interested in your take on it.

While your point above is a crucial issue, I am not sure how valuable a question it is.  First, it is a closed ended question which almost always ends up with either a yes or no response.  And I really doubt if there will be many politicians, even the flaming progressive socialists, who would actually respond with a no even though they would have no intention of supporting the Constitution.

I think the best question must be an open ended question which gets the candidate to reveal much more about themselves.  It causes them to string together some thoughts that just might help a voter learn much more about the candidate.

I personally think the best question to ask them is:

"When you are presented with a new piece of legislation, what is the first question you will ask yourself regarding the proposed bill"?

As a conservative, I personally think there is only one really good answer for that question and it is:

"Is this the proper role of government?   If the answer is NO, then no further study is needed and my vote will be NO.  If the answer is yes and the proposed legislation is the proper role of government, then there will be a lot of additional questions and study required."

I have asked this question of quite a few candidates and rarely do I ever get that answer.  Sadly there is one answer that I almost always receive and it is very disappointing as I think it reveals a very liberal thought process.  I have heard this response from many Republicans of varying degrees of conservatism which leads me to believe that the progressives have been successful with their strategy to strip our educational system on the instruction of the US Constitution and its Founding Principles.

The answer I almost always hear is:

"Is this good for my constituents"?  or another variation  "Will my constituents benefit from this bill"?

This mentality just leads to the proliferation of government either trying to be everything to everybody in the hopes of winning re-election for the incumbent or more intrusion by the government in deciding what is best for each of us.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Alleycat on Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:18 pm

The cold hard truth is it does very little good to ask ANY politician a question about what they support or what they will do. They will either talk around it or plain out right lie. I have come to the conclusion that there is not one politician at this point in time that is even remotely honest. It is pretty much a waste of time/energy to worry about things. The best tactic is to out think the bureaucrats and do what ever is best for YOU. Look out for number one. Do not do anything to attract attention from the Government. Keep a low profile and stay off the radar. I have dropped a couple of issues that bothered me by figuring out a way around them.

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Re: A question for you

Post  Just Braying It on Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:49 pm

Do you support same sex marriage?

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Re: A question for you

Post  Jammer on Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:53 pm

Alleycat wrote:The cold hard truth is it does very little good to ask ANY politician a question about what they support or what they will do. They will either talk around it or plain out right lie. I have come to the conclusion that there is not one politician at this point in time that is even remotely honest. It is pretty much a waste of time/energy to worry about things. The best tactic is to out think the bureaucrats and do what ever is best for YOU. Look out for number one. Do not do anything to attract attention from the Government. Keep a low profile and stay off the radar. I have dropped a couple of issues that bothered me by figuring out a way around them.

Sadly you may be right.  However if you are, conservatives only have ourselves to blame for it.  We have sat on the sidelines way too long and watched things happen.  We have let the progressive socialists slowly erode our system of government and we have done little to stop them.  And when we do try to get involved, we all seem to subscribe to the Earl Weaver "3 run home run" theory of winning.  We are never satisfied with one small step in the right direction, it has to be an all or nothing proposition for us.

And as for politicians lying to us, sometimes we make it too easy for them to do so and when they do we never hold them accountable.  The Founders gave us the perfect remedy for those politicians and it is called the "next election".

Oh well -- those are just GENERAL thoughts and not intended to mean any particular person.  Just some GENERAL observations that I have made.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Jammer on Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:55 pm

Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?

I hope that was a joke.
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Re: A question for you

Post  nightlight88 on Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:58 am

Jammer wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?

I hope that was a joke.

It was not a joke.

The two main planks in the liberal agenda are ABORTION and SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

If a candidate doesn't support both, then the candidate is a no-good righwing radical.

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Re: A question for you

Post  Jammer on Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:25 am

nightlight88 wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?

I hope that was a joke.

It was not a joke.

The two main planks in the liberal agenda are ABORTION and SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

If a candidate doesn't support both, then the candidate is a no-good righwing radical.


Sadly you are probably correct.  However, it does clearly provide an example of just why liberals are incapable of governing.   It also helps to explain that when they are elected to any office, they end up screwing things up.
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Re: A question for you

Post  nightlight88 on Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:57 am

Jammer wrote:
nightlight88 wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?

I hope that was a joke.

It was not a joke.

The two main planks in the liberal agenda are ABORTION and SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

If a candidate doesn't support both, then the candidate is a no-good righwing radical.


Sadly you are probably correct.  However, it does clearly provide an example of just why liberals are incapable of governing.   It also helps to explain that when they are elected to any office, they end up screwing things up.


Bloodlusting and buttblasting are in their synapse wiring.

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Re: A question for you

Post  Caitlyn Piltover on Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:53 am

Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?
That is a wonderful question.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Just Braying It on Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:10 pm

If a homeless man asked you for a dollar, would you give him one?

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Re: A question for you

Post  Jammer on Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:40 pm

Liberal wrote:If a homeless man asked you for a dollar, would you give him one?

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.  Unfortunately, once a man learns to fish, he will no longer vote for the pandering democrats.  Therefore, liberals refuse to accept this simple solution.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Darth Cheney on Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:11 am

Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?
That is a wonderful question.

Nothing says love better than smearing feces all over your junk. /lib
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Re: A question for you

Post  BladeRunner on Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:44 am

nightlight88 wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?

I hope that was a joke.

It was not a joke.

The two main planks in the liberal agenda are ABORTION and SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

If a candidate doesn't support both, then the candidate is a no-good righwing radical.


Both of which lead to the degradation of society.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Caitlyn Piltover on Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:32 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?
That is a wonderful question.

Nothing says love better than smearing feces all over your junk. /lib
It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation.

Interesting that you point out homosexual men as your go to for that question.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Skeptical on Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:13 pm

Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?
That is a wonderful question.

Nothing says love better than smearing feces all over your junk. /lib
It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation.

Interesting that you point out homosexual men as your go to for that question.

WOW, same sex marriage was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !

When will you post the documentation (and authors of such documentation) supporting same sex marriage as one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation during the time leading to the the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
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Re: A question for you

Post  nightlight88 on Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:06 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Liberal wrote:Do you support same sex marriage?
That is a wonderful question.

Nothing says love better than smearing feces all over your junk. /lib
It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation.

Interesting that you point out homosexual men as your go to for that question.

WOW, same sex marriage was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !

When will you post the documentation (and authors of such documentation) supporting same sex marriage as one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation during the time leading to the the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.


I can try to answer that:



NEVER
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Re: A question for you

Post  Caitlyn Piltover on Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:02 pm

Skeptical wrote:
WOW, same sex marriage was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !

When will you post the documentation (and authors of such documentation) supporting same sex marriage as one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation during the time leading to the the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

I was referring to equality before the law.

We've made a few mistakes with that in the past, Slaves, Irish, Japanese, but we always strive to make it right.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Skeptical on Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:16 pm

Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
WOW, same sex marriage was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !

When will you post the documentation (and authors of such documentation) supporting same sex marriage as one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation during the time leading to the the writing of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

I was referring to equality before the law.

We've made a few mistakes with that in the past, Slaves, Irish, Japanese, but we always strive to make it right.

No, you very strongly implied same sex marriage in particular was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !
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Re: A question for you

Post  Caitlyn Piltover on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:15 am

Skeptical wrote:
No, you very strongly implied same sex marriage in particular was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !
If you wish to make up my position for me, feel free; but when I disagree with what you thought I was referring to, don't be surprised.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Skeptical on Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:28 pm

Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
No, you very strongly implied same sex marriage in particular was one of the ideas behind the founding of this nation !
If you wish to make up my position for me, feel free; but when I disagree with what you thought I was referring to, don't be surprised.

Keep in mind you are the one who implied same sex marriage was an idea behind the founding of this nation.

Your comment was the last in the subject of same sex marriage starting with a poster asking a politician, "Do you support same sex marriage?"

Then another poster said, "That is a wonderful question",

You then piped in with, "It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation"

You already made you position.  You are simply being asked to prove it.

(Perhaps you need to learn to express what you actually mean)
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Re: A question for you

Post  Caitlyn Piltover on Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:46 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Keep in mind you are the one who implied same sex marriage was an idea behind the founding of this nation.

Your comment was the last in the subject of same sex marriage starting with a poster asking a politician, "Do you support same sex marriage?"

Then another poster said, "That is a wonderful question",

You then piped in with, "It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation"

You already made you position.  You are simply being asked to prove it.

(Perhaps you need to learn to express what you actually mean)
You took what you read and made up your own reason for it. That is fine, but when I say that isn't what I meant, perhaps you might have read what it meant wrong.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Skeptical on Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:49 pm

Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Keep in mind you are the one who implied same sex marriage was an idea behind the founding of this nation.

Your comment was the last in the subject of same sex marriage starting with a poster asking a politician, "Do you support same sex marriage?"

Then another poster said, "That is a wonderful question",

You then piped in with, "It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation"

You already made you position.  You are simply being asked to prove it.

(Perhaps you need to learn to express what you actually mean)
You took what you read and made up your own reason for it. That is fine, but when I say that isn't what I meant, perhaps you might have read what it meant wrong.

To borrow from Steen of the old extinct Argus forum .. "you are a lying scumbag".
You said what you said .. and only back peddled to say, "I was referring to equality before the law". when you got caught.

The point is not what you meant, it is what you said.  

If you are unable to express yourself so others may understand you then perhaps you need to have an adult with you.
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Re: A question for you

Post  Just Braying It on Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:50 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Caitlyn Piltover wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Keep in mind you are the one who implied same sex marriage was an idea behind the founding of this nation.

Your comment was the last in the subject of same sex marriage starting with a poster asking a politician, "Do you support same sex marriage?"

Then another poster said, "That is a wonderful question",

You then piped in with, "It shows support for the ideas behind the founding of this nation"

You already made you position.  You are simply being asked to prove it.

(Perhaps you need to learn to express what you actually mean)
You took what you read and made up your own reason for it. That is fine, but when I say that isn't what I meant, perhaps you might have read what it meant wrong.

To borrow from Steen of the old extinct Argus forum .. "you are a lying scumbag".
You said what you said .. and only back peddled to say, "I was referring to equality before the law". when you got caught.

The point is not what you meant, it is what you said.  

If you are unable to express yourself so others may understand you then perhaps you need to have an adult with you.

I got the point he/she was making, but understand how it could be mistaken. How about everyone agrees to disagree?

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