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Post  Skeptical Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:21 pm


Politically in-correct Donald is front and center in the news again for comments about John McCain.

Seems the controversy centers on the definition of what is a "hero".

What are your thoughts .. does being captured and a prisoner make a person a hero?
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Post  Darth Cheney Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:39 pm

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Politically in-correct Donald is front and center in the news again for comments about John McCain.

Seems the controversy centers on the definition of what is a "hero".

What are your thoughts .. does being captured and a prisoner make a person a hero?

I respect John McCain for his service to his country and his heroism while being tortured as a POW...However,

he is a despicable POS that never fails to attack any conservative all the while snuggling with the evil liberals. That SOB has done as much damage to this country as most libs. He needs to retire and keep his f'n mouth shut and shut the mouth of his piglet daughter.

Then again, I'm one of those crazy wacko birds he is always talking about.

Hey John...Build the damn fence!!!
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Post  Dr. Evil Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:49 pm

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Politically in-correct Donald is front and center in the news again for comments about John McCain.

Seems the controversy centers on the definition of what is a "hero".

What are your thoughts .. does being captured and a prisoner make a person a hero?

McCain is more of a man than Trump could ever be, even in his wettest of dreams. Obama should have tapped him for Sec. of State instead of that hack Kerry. Or even Hillary as far as that goes.

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:51 pm

I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.
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Post  Darth Cheney Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:17 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

Liberal outrage and praise are fleeting depending on what serves them the most. They are all lying scumbags not worth the air they consume.
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Post  Jammer Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:28 pm

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Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

Liberal outrage and praise are fleeting depending on what serves them the most. They are all lying scumbags not worth the air they consume.

Are you kidding?   Why do you so greatly over value the worth of these evil cretins?  They are not worth the air that comes out of their assholes.
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Post  Just Braying It Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:49 am

Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

What are your thoughts in Donald Trump?

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Post  nightlight88 Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:31 pm

Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

What are your thoughts in Donald Trump?


WTF do you care? You will blindly mark the D circle anyway.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:43 pm

Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

What are your thoughts in Donald Trump?

I never liked his TV show and his combover sucks.
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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:49 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

What are your thoughts in Donald Trump?

I never liked his TV show and his combover sucks.

About  the only good thing about Trump is that he is more than willing to ram the rotating rod of reality up the asses of the idiotic liberals in an attempt to pander to the right for primary votes.  It will gain him a few votes, but the best thing is that there will be one hell of a lot of dumbass liberals with bleeding butts.
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Post  Just Braying It Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:57 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

What are your thoughts in Donald Trump?

I never liked his TV show and his combover sucks.

Why don't you write a dissertation like you did for McCain? Scared your buddies might not like it?

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:25 pm

Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:I find it rather ironic that when Rolling Stone did a hit piece on McCain during his 2008 Presidential campaign, there was no uproar, not even a peep about his heroism being questioned. Yet Trump slams McCain and a food fight erupts. Why would that be? Because Trump is questioning the country's dysfunctional immigration policies?

I don't believe that everyone that puts on the uniform brings honor to it. McCain certainly didn't by using his family connections to secure his appointment to Annapolis. Time and time again he used his grandfather's and father's high rank (both four star admirals) and connections in the Navy to help retain his Naval aviator status even in the light of his mediocre flying skills which had him crashing two planes, destroying a power line in Spain while attempting to fly under it and commandeering jets to get to Philadelphia while dating his first wife during which he crashed his second plane.

His actions during the USS Forrestal fire were less than admirable, when his plane was involved in an accidental missile hit. After escaping his plane, McCain spent most of the time in the pilot's ready room watching the fire and then the next day left for R&R in Saigon. There are even questions about his last mission in light of the massive North Vietnamese defensive fire why he didn't break off the attack or engage in evasive maneuvers when he was shot down by a SAM which led to his capture.

It's sad that while McCain was a POW for 5+ years, his tireless self promotion only seems to add to the considerable tarnish on his military career. Let's be honest McCain is a punk and a bully and he certainly isn't what I would look up to for someone heroic.

What are your thoughts in Donald Trump?

I never liked his TV show and his combover sucks.

Why don't you write a dissertation like you did for McCain? Scared your buddies might not like it?

Because I was taking a dump when I responded. What I post on this forum has nothing to do with how I perceive others will think or respond. I march to my own drummer.

While both Trump and McCain are blowhards with oversized egos, Trump at least makes me laugh. McCain is a fcuking pissed off old man and the poster child for term limits. He's also a disgrace to Barry Goldwater's former senate seat.

The problem now is the MSM is focused on the food fight and not the issues. The other viable candidates voices won't be heard because the Trump/McCain death match has sucked all the oxygen out of the room.
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Post  Just Braying It Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:32 pm

"March to your own drummer"? What "drummer" do you march to? Rush Limbaugh?

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:48 pm

Liberal wrote:"March to your own drummer"? What "drummer" do you march to? Rush Limbaugh?

I said my own, azzhole. And on the good days there are two drummers to march to. clown

Hardly ever listen to talk radio anymore. I find liberals listen to Limbaugh more often than I do.
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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:23 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Liberal wrote:"March to your own drummer"? What "drummer" do you march to? Rush Limbaugh?

I said my own, azzhole. And on the good days there are two drummers to march to. clown

Hardly ever listen to talk radio anymore. I find liberals listen to Limbaugh more often than I do.

You are dealing with a COMMITTED socialist of the highest order.  As such, he is either a complete moron incapable of understanding reasonable facts or he is a true EVIL cretin.  Either way, a second spent conversing with such a waste of carbon is a complete waste of time.

I continue to urge conservatives to spend their time and energy more wisely.  We are in a battle where we cannot waste a single moment on these useless jackasses.  Instead, we should be using our time to help educate other conservatives on the conservative principles on which this country was founded and the US Constitution it helped create.

The only other endeavor that could be of more value to our cause is to spend as much time as we can trying to overcome the liberal brainwashing that occurs in our educational system.  We should spend as much time with the College Republicans, TeenAge Republicans, Young Republicans, Young Americans for Liberty or any other youth group that will listen to us.  We need to be presenting this information that they will never hear if people like us don’t get involved.

I will go one step beyond urging you and all conservatives, I will BEG you.  Let’s please use our time in a more beneficial manner that bantering with these useless liberal assholes.
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:56 pm

Jammer wrote:  About  the only good thing about Trump is that he is more than willing to ram the rotating rod of reality up the asses of the idiotic liberals in an attempt to pander to the right for primary votes.  It will gain him a few votes, but the best thing is that there will be one hell of a lot of dumbass liberals with bleeding butts.

So far he has shown he is not a slave to political correctness like so many are.
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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:53 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:  About  the only good thing about Trump is that he is more than willing to ram the rotating rod of reality up the asses of the idiotic liberals in an attempt to pander to the right for primary votes.  It will gain him a few votes, but the best thing is that there will be one hell of a lot of dumbass liberals with bleeding butts.

So far he has shown he is not a slave to political correctness like so many are.

No and that part is good, but he is hypocritical and a “flip-flopper”.   He is willing to say what he thinks will win him votes, but I am not sure if you can count on him to govern the same way he spoke.  He is quite liberal based upon his previously documented positions.

The following website gives a pretty good political spectrum of the candidates.  At the top of the page, CLICK on the button to expand the information for the candidates.  That is where you will see the scale of candidates listed from most conservative to most liberal.

https://www.crowdpac.com/elections/2016-presidential-election

If conservatives fall in love with a candidate based solely upon their WORDS, they are setting themselves up to be very disappointed.  We need to observe the candidates previous actions and any record they might have.  If you can identify consistent principles they follow, then you have a reasonable chance of predicting their future behavior.
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Post  Darth Cheney Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:54 pm

Ironically, these same liberals bemoaning the jabs thrown at McCain by Trump are the same one's that proclaimed Johnny Mac was a traitor while serving time as a POW when he was the presidential candidate. You see liberals are pure evil born of the ass drippings of Satan. They will lie, cheat, steal, and rob to push their agenda forward. They are as bad or worse than the Islamic Jihadists...may they all rot in hell for eternity.
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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:05 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:Ironically, these same liberals bemoaning the jabs thrown at McCain by Trump are the same one's that proclaimed Johnny Mac was a traitor while serving time as a POW when he was the presidential candidate. You see liberals are pure evil born of the ass drippings of Satan. They will lie, cheat, steal, and rob to push their agenda forward. They are as bad or worse than the Islamic Jihadists...may they all rot in hell for eternity.

That's more like it.   cheers
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:56 pm

Jammer wrote:   He is willing to say what he thinks will win him votes, but I am not sure if you can count on him to govern the same way he spoke.  

With all due respect, that is the same as with all political candidates.

I can't think of a single candidate that I heard speak that said things with an intentional expectation to NOT GET votes!

As for saying things that will get votes...one must admit it worked twice for that MT suit HMWAIC !
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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:55 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:   He is willing to say what he thinks will win him votes, but I am not sure if you can count on him to govern the same way he spoke.  

With all due respect, that is the same as with all political candidates.

I can't think of a single candidate that I heard speak that said things with an intentional expectation to NOT GET votes!

As for saying things that will get votes...one must admit it worked twice for that MT suit HMWAIC !

1.  There is a big and I mean BIG difference between saying things that will get you votes and saying things that you don’t believe in or are outright lies to get votes.

2.  Have you looked at Scott Walker?   He has quite a record to live up to and for the most part his rhetoric pretty much matches his actions as Governor of Wisconsin.  And not only has he displayed actions that follow his words but he has positive results that follow his actions.

I think Ted Cruz has been pretty much spot on with his actions and rhetoric.  Rand Paul and Marco Rubio have taken a few missteps along the way, but not all that bad.  And actually Jeb Bush has been pretty much in line with his words, unfortunately his words are all too often left of where I would like him to be.

3.  Trump is not only out of sync with his words, but he is actually left of center on the political spectrum.  Did you look at that chart?  That level of conservatism is completely unacceptable for me as a conservative.  Perhaps you can live with RINOs who exist in the “mushy middle”, but I struggle with it.  I am willing to accept that not everyone scores a perfect 10 on the conservative scale, but I cannot accept a candidate squarely in the middle or giving us head fakes to give the appearance of being a hard conservative.

4.  I do like Trump for some things most of all his toughness and willingness to speak up and not be politically correct.  I hope his gains in the polls will give courage to some of the conservative candidates.  However, I do understand that you do need to be careful with what you say in a campaign.  As they say, “he who burns bridges better be a damned good swimmer”.
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 pm

Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:   He is willing to say what he thinks will win him votes, but I am not sure if you can count on him to govern the same way he spoke.  

With all due respect, that is the same as with all political candidates.

I can't think of a single candidate that I heard speak that said things with an intentional expectation to NOT GET votes!

As for saying things that will get votes...one must admit it worked twice for that MT suit HMWAIC !

1.  There is a big and I mean BIG difference between saying things that will get you votes and saying things that you don’t believe in or are outright lies to get votes.

I never said they were outright lies or they didn't believe in what they said.

It is a plain fact every candidate for public office says things he/she thinks the voters want to hear and will get them votes.

How many votes do you think a person, Trump for example in his best polically incorrect voice would get, if he said he would do away with the federally mandated minimum wage and allow the markets in the respective states establish the best level for their economy?

Keep in mind this from yesteryear

It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury.

With close to if not 50% of citizenry getting promised benefits from the public treasury it has to be admitted defeating a candidate promising still more will be damn difficult or impossible to beat in an election.
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Post  Jammer Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:23 am

Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:   He is willing to say what he thinks will win him votes, but I am not sure if you can count on him to govern the same way he spoke.  

With all due respect, that is the same as with all political candidates.

I can't think of a single candidate that I heard speak that said things with an intentional expectation to NOT GET votes!

As for saying things that will get votes...one must admit it worked twice for that MT suit HMWAIC !

1.  There is a big and I mean BIG difference between saying things that will get you votes and saying things that you don’t believe in or are outright lies to get votes.

I never said they were outright lies or they didn't believe in what they said.

It is a plain fact every candidate for public office says things he/she thinks the voters want to hear and will get them votes.

How many votes do you think a person, Trump for example in his best polically incorrect voice would get, if he said he would do away with the federally mandated minimum wage and allow the markets in the respective states establish the best level for their economy?

Keep in mind this from yesteryear

It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury.

With close to if not 50% of citizenry getting promised benefits from the public treasury it has to be admitted defeating a candidate promising still more will be damn difficult or impossible to beat in an election.

HUH????  scratch
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Post  Gomezz Adddams Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:39 am

"Ace" McCain now backpedals his comments on his calling conservatives in Arizona who support Trump "crazies" was meant as a "term of affection". Suspect Suspect

On Monday’s “Morning Joe, McCain McNasty said "I thought it was a term of endearment," McCain McNasty said with a smile smirk. "I meant it as a term of affection, I'll be honest with you."

Yeah, right. McCain must so love the Conservative right as he has at various times insulted them by calling them "whacko birds", "schizophrenic" and "Hobbits". Well give him points for creativity since he has so far failed to use the hackneyed term "teabagger".
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Post  Skeptical Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:48 am

Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:   He is willing to say what he thinks will win him votes, but I am not sure if you can count on him to govern the same way he spoke.  

With all due respect, that is the same as with all political candidates.

I can't think of a single candidate that I heard speak that said things with an intentional expectation to NOT GET votes!

As for saying things that will get votes...one must admit it worked twice for that MT suit HMWAIC !

1.  There is a big and I mean BIG difference between saying things that will get you votes and saying things that you don’t believe in or are outright lies to get votes.

I never said they were outright lies or they didn't believe in what they said.

It is a plain fact every candidate for public office says things he/she thinks the voters want to hear and will get them votes.

HUH????  scratch

Things said by candidates they thought people wanted to hear and said to get votes.

“a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.”
During the presidential campaign of 1928, a circular published by the Republican Party

It got a lot of votes but did not materialize.

"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
"If you like your plan you can keep your plan"
"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."

All the above were said to get votess and did.
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