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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:50 pm

Cruz 28%
Trump 24%
Rubio 23%
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Cankles Barely Gets 50%

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:00 pm

Cankles the Liar 49.9%

Comrade Bernie 49.6%
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Darth Cheney on Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:04 am

The more I listen to Trump, the greater idiot he becomes. He shouts: "build the wall" and his moron followers cheer. What has happened to this once great nation?
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:45 am

Darth Cheney wrote:The more I listen to Trump, the greater idiot he becomes.  He shouts: "build the wall" and his moron followers cheer. What has happened to this once great nation?

Hey Darth, I have no problem with Trump wanting to build a wall to secure our borders simply for the fact that without secure borders you cannot have a sovereign nation.  However, I agree with you that Trump is a total idiot.

Trump is a populist at best and an egotistical buffoon at the worst.  He has little or no integrity and his principles blow in the wind, changing direction on a random basis.  Trump only cares about Trump and I would not trust him any further than I could throw the goofball.  

There are many examples or issues that I could use to explain my disdain for him.  I will choose just one, crony capitalism.  He is currently pretending to be a free market capitalist.  However, for decades he has been on one side of the desk on that issue buying influence from any politician who would accept his money in return for political influence and favors.  I can guarantee you that if Trump was to be elected he would immediately jump up and run over to the other side of the desk thinking all the while that “now it’s my turn to cash in”.

He would be selling influence like his company sells condos.  He would be looking for every possible opportunity to place himself in a position to personally benefit from his position of power.  If you thought he abused the government’s authority to use eminent domain as a building contractor, I think we would weep over his use of eminent domain as the president.

The only good thing that Trump has brought to the table is his courage to speak boldly and not worry about political correctness.  That has awakened many of the weak kneed conservative politicians in this country who have for way too long been playing defense on their heels and giving ground.  For that I thank Trump.  I think we will see conservatives push boldly forward based upon his example and perhaps with a little luck we will push liberalism and all of its useful idiots off the cliff.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  BladeRunner on Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:16 am

I was hoping Cruz would run ever since his filibuster in the Senate in September of 2013. Then again when he called the GOP Senate majority leader a liar from the Senate floor. He's not part of the political machine in Washington. If he is elected POTUS there is hope for this once great nation.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:11 am

BladeRunner wrote:I was hoping Cruz would run ever since his filibuster in the Senate in September of 2013. Then again when he called the GOP Senate majority leader a liar from the Senate floor. He's not part of the political machine in Washington. If he is elected POTUS there is hope for this once great nation.

Cruz is without question the candidate who most shares my values and principles.  I also feel that he would be the best of all the candidates to not only follow the Constitution but also to protect defend and most importantly RESTORE it.

However, at this early point I am not sure if he is the best choice for the Republican nominee.  We are so close to our country being lost that we simply cannot afford another term of a progressive liberal.  And when you look at the two possible demon candidates, Socialist Sanders and Heinous Hillary, if they are elected America is lost.  Our grandchildren will live in a third world country and know firsthand what the fall of the Roman Empire felt like.  It will be over.

I am a little afraid that Cruz might not be able to beat Hillary.  I think he could beat Sanders, but the Clinton political machine and all of their Wall Street money may not be something that Cruz can beat and that would be devastating.

I think if I had a magic wand, here is what I would use it for.  First of all I would have the 3 best Republican candidates, Cruz, Rubio and Paul stop beating each other up.  That crap just has to end.  I would have them unite to defeat the evil tyrants who want to take away our liberty and give us a tyrannical communist type government.

I think I would put Rubio at the top of the ticket and Rand Paul as the VP.  I would have them make Ted Cruz their first Supreme Court appointment.  I think Cruz could be a 100 times more valuable as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court than he would as President.  First of all, he would not be limited to a mere 8 years; he could stay there his entire life.  And just who would you feel more comfortable in giving a lifetime job to?  He is a strict Constitutionalist, has more judicial and Supreme Court experience than any current member of Congress and CANNOT BE BOUGHT.

Hopefully, Rubio would serve 2 terms followed by 2 Rand Paul terms.  That would be 16 years of pretty solid conservative leadership in the Executive branch of our government.  At that point, Ted Cruz would only be 62 years old, far younger than either DEMON candidate is today.  If he still wanted to be President, he could resign from the Supreme Court and run.  That might give us 24 years of solid conservative leadership.

In any event, at the end of 16 years we would hopefully have things back on track.  I think Ted Cruz would put an end to this judicial activism of the Supreme Court and return it to its rightful role in our government.  I think the Executive Branch would be well within its intended scope and the country would be enjoying unparalleled prosperity.  Perhaps our only concern might be the Legislative Branch.

The Legislative Branch should really be the strongest of the 3 branches even though they are called the 3 EQUAL branches of government.  It is supposed to be a government of the people, by the people and for the people and the Legislative Branch is the REPRENTATIVE of the people.  They are to make the laws the people want to be governed by and they should be the ones keeping the other branches in check.  When was the last time you heard of a meaningful CONGRESSIONAL investigation?  They have been essentially neutered by an activist Supreme Court and an out of control tyrannical Executive Branch making laws through Executive Orders, only enforcing the laws they want to and spending whatever they want.

So my concern is if we take 3 of the strongest conservatives out of an already weak Legislative Branch to fix the other 2 branches, do we just create a deeper void that will turn into a black hole.  I hope not, but that is where the electorate needs to find good strong conservatives who are willing to be public servants and not POLITICIANS who will go to DC to represent WE THE PEOPLE.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:58 am

Cankles ran such a weak race in Iowa that she had to win not one but two coin tosses in two precincts to "win" the delegate count.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Clicker on Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:44 am

A "coin toss?"
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Skeptical on Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:08 pm


Not one, not two, but .... six consecutive coin tosses !


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton won six back-to-back coin tosses against opponent Bernie Sander's camp at a half-dozen Iowa precincts where voting results were too close to call Tuesday morning — a mathematical feat that raised eyebrows and a few questions

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/coin-toss-decides-clinton-sanders-tie-iowa-precinct-article-1.2517022
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:02 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Not one, not two, but .... six  consecutive coin tosses !


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton won six back-to-back coin tosses against opponent Bernie Sander's camp at a half-dozen Iowa precincts where voting results were too close to call Tuesday morning — a mathematical feat that raised eyebrows and a few questions

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/coin-toss-decides-clinton-sanders-tie-iowa-precinct-article-1.2517022

6 out of 6 is no big deal for the luckiest woman in the world.  Back in the 90's she turned $1,000 into $100,000 in the extremely risky futures market where the odds for something like that is in the millions to one, not the meager 64 to 1 in Iowa.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm

Of course, there is also the alternative possibility that dumbass Bernie let Heinous Hillary call each coin flip.  He probably didn't know that she always calls "heads I win, tails you lose".
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Darth Cheney on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:02 pm

Jammer wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:The more I listen to Trump, the greater idiot he becomes.  He shouts: "build the wall" and his moron followers cheer. What has happened to this once great nation?

Hey Darth, I have no problem with Trump wanting to build a wall to secure our borders simply for the fact that without secure borders you cannot have a sovereign nation.  However, I agree with you that Trump is a total idiot.

Trump is a populist at best and an egotistical buffoon at the worst.  He has little or no integrity and his principles blow in the wind, changing direction on a random basis.  Trump only cares about Trump and I would not trust him any further than I could throw the goofball.  

There are many examples or issues that I could use to explain my disdain for him.  I will choose just one, crony capitalism.  He is currently pretending to be a free market capitalist.  However, for decades he has been on one side of the desk on that issue buying influence from any politician who would accept his money in return for political influence and favors.  I can guarantee you that if Trump was to be elected he would immediately jump up and run over to the other side of the desk thinking all the while that “now it’s my turn to cash in”.

He would be selling influence like his company sells condos.  He would be looking for every possible opportunity to place himself in a position to personally benefit from his position of power.  If you thought he abused the government’s authority to use eminent domain as a building contractor, I think we would weep over his use of eminent domain as the president.

The only good thing that Trump has brought to the table is his courage to speak boldly and not worry about political correctness.  That has awakened many of the weak kneed conservative politicians in this country who have for way too long been playing defense on their heels and giving ground.  For that I thank Trump.  I think we will see conservatives push boldly forward based upon his example and perhaps with a little luck we will push liberalism and all of its useful idiots off the cliff.

I would also give Trump credit for destroying the political correctness hatchet used by the media in every election cycle.

The man is a fascist and very little different than Obama. He exposes on what he wants and what he will do if elected president. Last I checked, this country is a Constitutional Republic and not a third world dictatorship although that distinction is getting harder and harder to differentiate. Cruz is the only hope and the media and political class are going to attack with long knives now. He won in a state criticizing ethanol which totally goes against the old political back scratch good 'ol boys club. God Bless Ted Cruz and for our country's sake, may he be victorious!
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:43 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:The more I listen to Trump, the greater idiot he becomes.  He shouts: "build the wall" and his moron followers cheer. What has happened to this once great nation?


I would also give Trump credit for destroying the political correctness hatchet used by the media in every election cycle.

The man is a fascist and very little different than Obama. He exposes on what he wants and what he will do if elected president. Last I checked, this country is a Constitutional Republic and not a third world dictatorship although that distinction is getting harder and harder to differentiate. Cruz is the only hope and the media and political class are going to attack with long knives now. He won in a state criticizing ethanol which totally goes against the old political back scratch good 'ol boys club. God Bless Ted Cruz and for our country's sake, may he be victorious!

I would credit an informed electorate for that.  I spoke to a friend last night after the caucus who lives in a rural area of Iowa that is heavily dependent upon corn production and has two ethanol plants in the area.  I was surprised to learn that Cruz won that caucus by almost a 3 to 1 margin.  When I asked how that was possible with Cruz's position on ethanol, I was told that Cruz's position was well explained and people understood it.

That comment not only reinforced the importance of an INFORMED electorate, but also the fact that people are willing to accept possible personal hardship when true conservative principles are applied.  When they know that policies and programs will follow the conservative principle of "fair for one - fair for ALL", they realize that THEY will have a chance at equal OPPORTUNITY.  They are willing to back away from the feed trough because EVERYONE will be asked to leave the "free lunch" line and work for what they earn.

One should not underestimate the importance the average person can play in having an INFORMED electorate.  When every conservative makes sure that all their neighbors understand the issues just like they do, they will end up like a 3 - 1 caucus in favor of a conservative who is going to end the handouts.  Don't neglect the things that your neighbors may NOT know, TELL THEM what you know and we will have a more informed electorate and LIBERALISM WILL BE ON THE WAY OUT.

Just think, some day memories like Jackoff Jones, Butt Hole and Sleazy Slut will be just that distant memories.  But it will only happen if EVERY conservative does their part.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:13 pm

Glad to see Cruz win last night but he's gonna need to finish a strong 2nd in New Hampshire to keep his momentum since Trump has a 20+ point lead. That could be a tough job in a state where Independents can vote in either the R or D primary and where several of the candidates are bunched up within 5 points of each other.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html

South Carolina looks like a tough grind as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html

If you want to build a credible "Stop Trump" effort some most of the dwarves are going to need to drop out.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Darth Cheney on Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:28 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:Glad to see Cruz win last night but he's gonna need to finish a strong 2nd in New Hampshire to keep his momentum since Trump has a 20+ point lead. That could be a tough job in a state where Independents can vote in either the R or D primary and where several of the candidates are bunched up within 5 points of each other.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html

South Carolina looks like a tough grind as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html

If you want to build a credible "Stop Trump" effort some most of the dwarves are going to need to drop out.

I totally understand your comment regarding the liberal enclave known as New Hampshire. That said the media was stating Cruz was behind by 20 in Iowa also...more wish casting on their part. I hope and pray Donny keeps falling apart or at least exposing his liberal core principles. Liberalism and every liberal crumb MUST be totally and completely destroyed in this country if it is too survive. Working with them or making deals with them is the poison that has gotten us here. The ideology is pure evil and no different than radical Islam. It must be completely, utterly destroyed. Cruz with a republican congress will bring this result if given a chance.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:46 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:Glad to see Cruz win last night but he's gonna need to finish a strong 2nd in New Hampshire to keep his momentum since Trump has a 20+ point lead. That could be a tough job in a state where Independents can vote in either the R or D primary and where several of the candidates are bunched up within 5 points of each other.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html

South Carolina looks like a tough grind as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html

If you want to build a credible "Stop Trump" effort some most of the dwarves are going to need to drop out.

I totally understand your comment regarding the liberal enclave known as New Hampshire. That said the media was stating Cruz was behind by 20 in Iowa also...more wish casting on their part. I hope and pray Donny keeps falling apart or at least exposing his liberal core principles. Liberalism and every liberal crumb MUST be totally and completely destroyed in this country if it is too survive. Working with them or making deals with them is the poison that has gotten us here. The ideology is pure evil and no different than radical Islam. It must be completely, utterly destroyed. Cruz  with a republican congress will bring this result if given a chance.

That is going to take more than 4 or 8 years.  The damage is so extensive, that this might take a couple of decades.  And I caution conservatives to identify the root cause of the problem.  I know many will say it is simply progressive socialists, but I am not sure.

In my opinion, at the heart of our problem is a broken system.  If we had our system of government as left to us by the Founders and a rigid Constitution to protect it, neither a progressive legislature or president would be able to do the damage they are doing.  It has been well over a century of progressive erosion of our system of government and the Constitution that is at the heart of our current dilemma.

Look at Reagan and the good things he did.  But poof, in 8 short years he was out of office and you can barely see any of his footprints that he left.  Merely electing another Reagan or perhaps even better as president will not solve our problem.  It will only give us a short term "feel good" solution not unlike what progressive liberals think will solve our poverty, environmental, energy or any other problem.

We no longer teach the Constitution anywhere (well almost anywhere), what is taught is Constitutional law.  We have let the Supreme Court and the entire Judicial system run amok.  We no longer follow the ORIGINAL INTENT of the Constitution but follow judicial interpretation.  As a result, the Constitution is mere wax.
In a letter to Judge Spencer Roane, Sept. 6, 1819 Thomas Jefferson wrote:The Constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please.”

In my opinion, solving our Judiciary problem is the single biggest issue we face.  And yes I know, Cruz will install all kinds of conservative judges, but we have heard that before.  Just how is that Roberts guy working out for us?  If I could wave a magic wand, I would make Ted Cruz the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.  I personally believe that he would be a hundred times more valuable to our country in that role than as the President.  

However, I will enthusiastically support him for the Presidency.  But I caution that most conservatives have lost sight of what is really needed to fix our problem and that is to REPAIR THE SYSTEM.  You can build a brand new shiny road on unstable soil, but just what will that road look like in a decade or two?  I say we must make sure we stabilize the soil before we build.  Otherwise it will be 1988 again and POOF, he will be gone and they will be back at it again.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Dr. Evil on Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:02 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Not one, not two, but .... six  consecutive coin tosses !


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton won six back-to-back coin tosses against opponent Bernie Sander's camp at a half-dozen Iowa precincts where voting results were too close to call Tuesday morning — a mathematical feat that raised eyebrows and a few questions

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/coin-toss-decides-clinton-sanders-tie-iowa-precinct-article-1.2517022
I think you may need to step up your news sources a bit, but then we already knew that. 

From the "liberal" media:

No, Clinton didn't win on coin flips
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-coin-flip-iowa-bernie-sanders/index.html

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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Jammer on Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:52 pm

Jackoff Jones is so full of bullshit.  Anybody who believes a single word this dimwit says deserves to be fooled.  He quoted the Clinton News Network that reported:

The Clinton News Network wrote:Of the seven coin flips/games of chance that were held in precincts using the Microsoft app, six of those were flips to determine whether a county delegate slot went to Clinton or Sanders. Of those six Clinton-vs.-Sanders coin flips, Sanders won five and Clinton one. The seventh coin flip was used to determine whether a county delegate slot went to Sanders or Martin O'Malley. Sanders won that coin flip as well. So in the seven coin flips that the Iowa Democratic Party has a record of, Sanders won six of them.

However an IOWA newspaper quoted different details;

The Des Moines liberal rag wrote:  A Clinton supporter correctly called “heads” on a quarter flipped in the air, and Clinton received a fifth delegate.

Similar situations were reported elsewhere, including at a precinct in Des Moines, at another precinct in Des Moines, in Newton, in West Branch  and in Davenport. In all five situations, Clinton won the toss.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

So sports fans it is very simple, when a political party does not have principles and therefore cannot choose a nominee based upon principles, they resort to choosing their candidate through coin flips.  Unfortunately, none of the liberal media covering the circle jerk could agree on exactly who won the coin flips.  Is it any surprise why this country is in so much trouble when idiots from the demoncrats win elections?  They are fuching morons.
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Re: Cruz Wins Iowa

Post  Skeptical on Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:00 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Not one, not two, but .... six  consecutive coin tosses !


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton won six back-to-back coin tosses against opponent Bernie Sander's camp at a half-dozen Iowa precincts where voting results were too close to call Tuesday morning — a mathematical feat that raised eyebrows and a few questions

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/coin-toss-decides-clinton-sanders-tie-iowa-precinct-article-1.2517022
I think you may need to step up your news sources a bit, but then we already knew that. 

From the "liberal" media:

No, Clinton didn't win on coin flips
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-coin-flip-iowa-bernie-sanders/index.html

LOL, nobody is remotely claiming Hillary won the state in the way your source alleges but what this article says.

Sometimes, Iowa Democrats award caucus delegates with a coin flip

"This story was updated at 8:30 a.m. on Feb. 2.

In a handful of Democratic caucus precincts Monday, a delegate was awarded with a coin toss.

It happened in precinct 2-4 in Ames, where supporters of candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton disputed the results after 60 caucus participants apparently disappeared from the proceedings.

As a result of the coin toss, Clinton was awarded an additional delegate, meaning she took five of the precinct’s eight, while Sanders received three.

Similar situations played out at various precincts across the state, but had an extremely small effect on the overall outcome, in which Clinton won 49.9 percent of statewide delegate equivalents, while Sanders won 49.5 percent. The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party's county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results."

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:35 pm

Iowa caucuses are a clusterfcuk and why the MSM pays this much attention to them is beyond me. We have Jimmy "Peanut" Carter to thank for this Kabuki theater because of his coming in second 10 points behind "Uncommitted" in 1976. Seriously. Suspect Suspect
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