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Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 02, 2016 5:05 pm

Here's a nice editorial written by Robert Kennedy outlining what he saw as failures on Reagan's part in regard to the Beruit bombing, among other things.  I don't necessarily agree with blaming Reagan for what happened in Beirut, just as I don't blame Obama or Clinton on Benghazi.  It's important though to point out the fact that Reagan has as much (far more in fact) blood on n his hands as either Obama or Clinton.  It's also important to point out the fact that congressional Democrats had only one hearing over the misconduct involved with the Beruit bombing, vs the repeated Benghazi hearings.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/benghazi-beirut-bombing_b_5353757.html


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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Jammer on Mon May 02, 2016 5:26 pm

I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 02, 2016 5:32 pm

Jammer wrote:I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 02, 2016 5:43 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
What are you talking about?
Never mind.  I remember...

Another GOP congressman says Benghazi panel meant to hurt Clinton
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/14/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi-committee/
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Jammer on Mon May 02, 2016 5:45 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
What are you talking about?

There is no place in a civil society for evil cretins like you and I want your ass tarred, feathered and ridden out of the country on a rail.  That is what I am talking about.  You are pure evil.
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 02, 2016 5:50 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
What are you talking about?

There is no place in a civil society for evil cretins like you and I want your ass tarred, feathered and ridden out of the country on a rail.  That is what I am talking about.  You are pure evil.
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  nightlight88 on Mon May 02, 2016 6:23 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Jammer on Mon May 02, 2016 7:21 pm

nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:I didn't realize that Reagan was on the ballot in November.  If he is, then this comment was worth considering.  However, if Reagan is not on the November ballot and Hillary will be, then this was just more disgusting deception by an EVIL LIBERAL.  I hope when Trump takes office, the throws these SOBs out with the illegal immigrants.
What are you talking about?

There is no place in a civil society for evil cretins like you and I want your ass tarred, feathered and ridden out of the country on a rail.  That is what I am talking about.  You are pure evil.
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That is just a sign of the times and unfortunately a condemnation of our generation.  Regrettably we have let things slide for too long all the while we were quietly sitting on the sidelines.  As a result, we have nobody to blame but ourselves for the evil in this world.

It was only a few decades ago that being called a socialist was one of the worst things you could say to a person.  Now today not only are people proud to call themselves socialists, they are actually going into a voting booth and voting for an acknowledged socialist for president.

And as illustrated by the comment from Jackoff Jones, he is proud to be evil.  He openly demeans religion and morality, but he doesn’t stop there.  He is actually beaming with pride that his evilness is duly noted.

It is time to get off our butts and take the fight to Jackoff Jones and the tree hugging bitch who lives down the street.  Trust me I am doing my part; just ask the tree hugging bitch.  That is if the little weasel coward shows her face in my presence.  

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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon May 02, 2016 7:34 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:Here's a nice editorial written by Robert Kennedy outlining what he saw as failures on Reagan's part in regard to the Beruit bombing, among other things.  I don't necessarily agree with blaming Reagan for what happened in Beirut, just as I don't blame Obama or Clinton on Benghazi.  It's important though to point out the fact that Reagan has as much (far more in fact) blood on n his hands as either Obama or Clinton.  It's also important to point out the fact that congressional Democrats had only one hearing over the misconduct involved with the Beruit bombing, vs the repeated Benghazi hearings.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/benghazi-beirut-bombing_b_5353757.html


White flag?  Never.  Especially not to you...

Robert Kennedy Jr might be dumber than you. I stopped reading after the first paragraph where Jr repeats the lie that JFK wrote "Profiles in Courage". He didn't. It was ghost written by Ted Sorensen, Kennedy's speechwriter. However that didn't stop Kennedy from accepting a Pulitzer and failing to give credit to the ghost writer.

The Libs have been beating this Beirut - Benghazi meme ever since the Broomrider got her titties in a wringer lying about the attack. At least Reagan didn't blame it on some crappy Internet video and spontaneous riot, taking the blame entirely.

"If there is to be blame it properly rests here in this office and with this President. I accept responsibility for the bad as well as the good.''

What did Flapjacks offer? Lies, lies, stonewalling, deflection, blah, fcukin' blah!
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Dr. Evil on Tue May 03, 2016 12:05 am

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Here's a nice editorial written by Robert Kennedy outlining what he saw as failures on Reagan's part in regard to the Beruit bombing, among other things.  I don't necessarily agree with blaming Reagan for what happened in Beirut, just as I don't blame Obama or Clinton on Benghazi.  It's important though to point out the fact that Reagan has as much (far more in fact) blood on n his hands as either Obama or Clinton.  It's also important to point out the fact that congressional Democrats had only one hearing over the misconduct involved with the Beruit bombing, vs the repeated Benghazi hearings.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/benghazi-beirut-bombing_b_5353757.html


White flag?  Never.  Especially not to you...

Robert Kennedy Jr might be dumber than you. I stopped reading after the first paragraph where Jr repeats the lie that JFK wrote "Profiles in Courage". He didn't. It was ghost written by Ted Sorensen, Kennedy's speechwriter. However that didn't stop Kennedy from accepting a Pulitzer and failing to give credit to the ghost writer.

The Libs have been beating this Beirut - Benghazi meme ever since the Broomrider got her titties in a wringer lying about the attack. At least Reagan didn't blame it on some crappy Internet video and spontaneous riot, taking the blame entirely.

"If there is to be blame it properly rests here in this office and with this President. I accept responsibility for the bad as well as the good.''

What did Flapjacks offer? Lies, lies, stonewalling, deflection, blah, fcukin' blah!


Regardless of who put the pen to the paper on JFK's thoughts, the facts still remain.  Facilities were not properly secured.  Troops were not properly armed.  There was no clear mission.  Location was less than ideal.


Was this before or after he likened the lack of action on the recommended additional security measures to an unfinished kitchen remodel?
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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Clicker on Tue May 03, 2016 12:19 pm

There can be no credible comparison of the two incidents and attempts to tie them together evaporate after the initial mention that they were both done by Islamic terrorists.

Beruit, unlike Benghazi, was a single incident that involved a truck bomb, similar to the OK City bombing, a one off occurance. Benghazi was a co-ordinated attack by a known Islamic terrorist group that had telegraphed their intent repeatedly over the months prior to the attack. After Beruit, the Marine force intended to provide a security force to protect embassies, was held offshore in transport ships and in close proximity "friendly" countries.

The force in question that was intended to protect Benghazi was not allowed to move in a timely manner due to our govt decision makers, aka Obama and Clinton, inability to make a decision due to a desire to deflect responsibility from anything vaguely resembling an Islamic attack. In the end the reference to a "video" was blown out of proportion in order to make it look like the attack was spontaneous. The protracted investigation is due to the looney libs reluctance to allow any information to become public that makes BarryO and the broomrider look bad. That action is what makes it "political". If the info had been released and all requests for docs etc had been done in a timely manner their collective fat wouldn't be in the fire now and the thing would have been history. Thunder thighs might have had to throw a few people under the bus like she has done in the past but she now runs the risk of prosecution and losing the Presidency at the same time. Perhaps she thinks if she makes it to the WH she can hide under the desk in the oval office like Monica did for Wild Willy, and keep trying to wish it all away. Until all the sordid details are in the open it'll never just "go away".
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue May 03, 2016 4:41 pm

Clicker wrote: There can be no credible comparison of the two incidents and attempts to tie them together evaporate after the initial mention that they were both done by Islamic terrorists.

Beruit, unlike Benghazi, was a single incident that involved a truck bomb, similar to the OK City bombing, a one off occurance.  Benghazi was a co-ordinated attack by a known Islamic terrorist group that had telegraphed their intent repeatedly over the months prior to the attack.  After Beruit, the Marine force intended to provide a security force to protect embassies, was held offshore in transport ships and in close proximity "friendly" countries.

 The force in question that was intended to protect Benghazi was not allowed to move in a timely manner due to our govt decision makers, aka Obama and Clinton, inability to make a decision due to a desire to deflect responsibility from anything vaguely resembling an Islamic attack.  In the end the reference to a "video" was blown out of proportion in order to make it look like the attack was spontaneous.  The protracted investigation is due to the looney libs reluctance to allow any information to become public that makes BarryO and the broomrider look bad.  That action is what makes it "political".  If the info had been released and all requests for docs etc had been done in a timely manner their collective fat wouldn't be in the fire now and the thing would have been history.  Thunder thighs might have had to throw a few people under the bus like she has done in the past but she now runs the risk of prosecution and losing the Presidency at the same time.  Perhaps she thinks if she makes it to the WH she can hide under the desk in the oval office like Monica did for Wild Willy,  and keep trying to wish it all away.  Until all the sordid details are in the open it'll never just "go away".
Puh-lease.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes   There were multiple attacks in Beruit before and after the truck bomb in '83 before Reagan finally pulled the plug.  What about '84 when Buckley was captured and tortured until he was killed a year later, after giving up US secrets?  Reagan was told time and time again that the Marines stationed there were sitting ducks.  

Try again.

Thunder thighs huh?   Whoever said sexism wasn't alive and well in the US?
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Post  nightlight88 on Tue May 03, 2016 5:43 pm

wow, i didn't know you worked for Reagan back then. You must have been pretty high up in the cabinet to know all this stuff.
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Post  Clicker on Tue May 03, 2016 5:57 pm

Thunder thighs may be a misnomer. Ol pantsuit is wearing so much kevlar under it that she has trouble waddling to the podium. The only skin she shows these days is from the wrists down and the hog jowls up.

The first use of large (truck) bombs against hardened targets that I could find was Beruit. The barracks had armored gates and obstacles designed to keep vehicles back from the building. The response to hardening is to build a bigger bomb. A car bomb wouldn't have worked. Much of the conversation I remember at the time was that a gas tanker was the biggest fear not a huge bomb.

The reason there was no protracted investigation is that there was nothing to investigate.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue May 03, 2016 8:38 pm

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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Jammer on Tue May 03, 2016 10:05 pm

Conservatives should recognize this article by Dipshit Jr. and the comment topic by Jackoff Jones for what they are, PURE REPRESSIVE SOCIALIST BULLSHIT.

There is nothing about this issue and the actions of President Reagan that needs defending or even discussing.  So why does the dipshit write the article and why does his useful idiot Jackoff Jones go to all this effort?  It is very simple; distraction and deflection from the real issue of THE DAY and the key words are “THE DAY”.

The socialists are close to getting one of their comrades elected president which just about assures them of the complete transformation of America into a living socialist hell.  However, the evil witch has some skeletons in her closet, one of them being her negligence in the Benghazi incident.  Therefore they must take the heat off and there is no better way than to compare her actions to an iconic conservative.  And as usual, it is smoke and mirrors they are using but that doesn’t matter if people will engage them and LISTEN to their story.

They simply cannot afford to have potential voters think negatively of repressive Hillary so they have to find a way to defend her.  So, demean President Reagan, (they do this all the time to the Founders) or at least put Hillary’s actions on par with Reagan’s and they win.

These slime balls are disgusting.  Don’t fall for their evil tricks.  If you want to discuss this thread with the moronic evil cretin, then keep the focus solely on the negligence of Hillary in the disaster at Benghazi.  And if you want to bring other players into the fray, then pick on Obama and John Kerry and how they have supported Hezbollah, the very people who killed our brave Marines, with their actions and financial aid.  And you can toss the Clintons into that discussion as well.  Those are the evil slime balls that are involved with taking control of the White House, stay on their trail.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Wed May 04, 2016 6:24 am

Jammer wrote:Conservatives should recognize this article by Dipshit Jr. and the comment topic by Jackoff Jones for what they are, PURE REPRESSIVE SOCIALIST BULLSHIT.

There is nothing about this issue and the actions of President Reagan that needs defending or even discussing.  So why does the dipshit write the article and why does his useful idiot Jackoff Jones go to all this effort?  It is very simple; distraction and deflection from the real issue of THE DAY and the key words are “THE DAY”.

The socialists are close to getting one of their comrades elected president which just about assures them of the complete transformation of America into a living socialist hell.  However, the evil witch has some skeletons in her closet, one of them being her negligence in the Benghazi incident.  Therefore they must take the heat off and there is no better way than to compare her actions to an iconic conservative.  And as usual, it is smoke and mirrors they are using but that doesn’t matter if people will engage them and LISTEN to their story.

They simply cannot afford to have potential voters think negatively of repressive Hillary so they have to find a way to defend her.  So, demean President Reagan, (they do this all the time to the Founders) or at least put Hillary’s actions on par with Reagan’s and they win.

These slime balls are disgusting.  Don’t fall for their evil tricks.  If you want to discuss this thread with the moronic evil cretin, then keep the focus solely on the negligence of Hillary in the disaster at Benghazi.  And if you want to bring other players into the fray, then pick on Obama and John Kerry and how they have supported Hezbollah, the very people who killed our brave Marines, with their actions and financial aid.  And you can toss the Clintons into that discussion as well.  Those are the evil slime balls that are involved with taking control of the White House, stay on their trail.
Why don't you point out the differences between Beruit and Benghazi.  This should br interesting.  Good luck
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Post  Jammer on Wed May 04, 2016 7:04 am

There are MANY differences, but the only one that MATTERS is Hillary Clinton is running to be the President of the United States and Ronald Reagan is not.  Jackoff Jones is merely trying to distort history in a deceitful attempt to conceal the negligence and dereliction of duty by Hillary Clinton.  And he attempts to do this by distorting history and the honor of a GREAT man.  I find that utterly disgusting.

Jackoff Jones is a worthless piece of dogshit and I simply do not understand how any decent human being can have a dialog with such a scumbag.   He is the most dishonest and morally bankrupt person I have ever encountered.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Wed May 04, 2016 7:47 am

Jammer wrote:There are MANY differences, but the only one that MATTERS is Hillary Clinton is running to be the President of the United States and Ronald Reagan is not.  Jackoff Jones is merely trying to distort history in a deceitful attempt to conceal the negligence and dereliction of duty by Hillary Clinton.  And he attempts to do this by distorting history and the honor of a GREAT man.  I find that utterly disgusting.

Jackoff Jones is a worthless piece of dogshit and I simply do not understand how any decent human being can have a dialog with such a scumbag.   He is the most dishonest and morally bankrupt person I have ever encountered.
Ooooh I'm well aware of the fact that the only thing that MATTERS here is the fact that Hillary is running for president, or that the Clintons are political rock stars.  In regard to the MANY differences, how about just post you're favorite.
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Post  Jammer on Wed May 04, 2016 8:15 am

Oh yes, political rock stars of the party of those who don’t pay any taxes or are here in this country illegally.  
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Post  Dr. Evil on Wed May 04, 2016 8:23 am

Jammer wrote:Oh yes, political rock stars of the party of those who don’t pay any taxes or are here in this country illegally.  
Yaaa that's nice,  but do you have an example you'd like to post?
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Post  Jammer on Wed May 04, 2016 9:06 am

Hezbollah was responsible for the attack on our brave Marines in Beirut.  And how has Hillary responded to that and what could we expect her actions in regards to Hezbollah be if she is elected president?  I think the information in the following link tells us all we need to know about the Clintons very friendly and close ties to Hezbollah.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillarys-hezbollah-friendly-donor/
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Post  Dr. Evil on Wed May 04, 2016 9:50 am

Jammer wrote:Hezbollah was responsible for the attack on our brave Marines in Beirut.  And how has Hillary responded to that and what could we expect her actions in regards to Hezbollah be if she is elected president?  I think the information in the following link tells us all we need to know about the Clintons very friendly and close ties to Hezbollah.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillarys-hezbollah-friendly-donor/
Did I really just see you try to pin Beruit on Hillary?
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Wed May 04, 2016 10:06 am

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:Conservatives should recognize this article by Dipshit Jr. and the comment topic by Jackoff Jones for what they are, PURE REPRESSIVE SOCIALIST BULLSHIT.

There is nothing about this issue and the actions of President Reagan that needs defending or even discussing.  So why does the dipshit write the article and why does his useful idiot Jackoff Jones go to all this effort?  It is very simple; distraction and deflection from the real issue of THE DAY and the key words are “THE DAY”.

The socialists are close to getting one of their comrades elected president which just about assures them of the complete transformation of America into a living socialist hell.  However, the evil witch has some skeletons in her closet, one of them being her negligence in the Benghazi incident.  Therefore they must take the heat off and there is no better way than to compare her actions to an iconic conservative.  And as usual, it is smoke and mirrors they are using but that doesn’t matter if people will engage them and LISTEN to their story.

They simply cannot afford to have potential voters think negatively of repressive Hillary so they have to find a way to defend her.  So, demean President Reagan, (they do this all the time to the Founders) or at least put Hillary’s actions on par with Reagan’s and they win.

These slime balls are disgusting.  Don’t fall for their evil tricks.  If you want to discuss this thread with the moronic evil cretin, then keep the focus solely on the negligence of Hillary in the disaster at Benghazi.  And if you want to bring other players into the fray, then pick on Obama and John Kerry and how they have supported Hezbollah, the very people who killed our brave Marines, with their actions and financial aid.  And you can toss the Clintons into that discussion as well.  Those are the evil slime balls that are involved with taking control of the White House, stay on their trail.
Why don't you point out the differences between Beruit and Benghazi.  This should br interesting.  Good luck

The Differences:

1)
The UN MNF (Multi National Force comprised of US, France, Great Britain and Italy) peacekeeping force that was in
Beirut in 1983 was there to ostensibly act as an interposition force between Israel and Syrian/PLO forces in an attempt to bring stability to Lebanon in the civil war. It was not allowed to take sides or to engage in combat. It was only allowed to fire weapons in self defense.

The NATO force in Libya in the 2011 Civil War took an active and decisive part in combat by supporting anti-Gaddafi rebels that were comprised in part by Islamic terrorists led by former Guantanamo detainee Abu Sufian bin Qumu. Thanks to the US engineered fall of Gaddafi, various Islamic terrorist elements in east Libya filled the power vacuum. One of these groups was ISIS/ISIL (whatever).

2)
There was no coverup in Lebanon.  Iranian back Hezbollah was blamed for the bombings, not some crappy anti-Islamic video on the Internet that caused spontaneous riots. The real cause of Benghazi was a clandestine weapons program gone awry. Weapons fell into the wrong hands as Clinton/Obama tried to arm Syrian rebels in the Syrian Civil War.

3)
Reagan took blame. Clinton/Obama, nope. Just stonewalling, lying, dissembling and deception. Even lied to the families of the brave dead of Benghazi

Both are tragic situations but just like in Watergate and Clinton's impeachment Benghazi comes down to CYA and deception.


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Re: Beruit: Reagan's Benghazi

Post  Jammer on Wed May 04, 2016 3:42 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:Hezbollah was responsible for the attack on our brave Marines in Beirut.  And how has Hillary responded to that and what could we expect her actions in regards to Hezbollah be if she is elected president?  I think the information in the following link tells us all we need to know about the Clintons very friendly and close ties to Hezbollah.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillarys-hezbollah-friendly-donor/
Did I really just see you try to pin Beruit on Hillary?

Wrong dumbass, I tied Hillary and her family’s illegal money laundering operation called the Clinton Foundation to the terrorist organization that was responsible for the attack on our brave Marines in Beirut.  It clearly shows the close personal as well as FINANCIAL ties this disgusting career socialist politician has to terrorist organizations that want to destroy America.  I personally think that disqualifies her to be the President of the United States.

You on the other had are one of her useful idiots trying to conceal the facts of her disgusting deeds in order to get her elected so she can extend more farm subsidies to your lazy ass.

The second thing that Trump needs to do when he is sworn in next January is to shut down the Clinton Foundation and arrest everyone involved with this illegal money laundering scheme.
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