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Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 3:50 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 4:00 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
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Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 4:08 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
  The main purpose was voter suppression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.


In a nutshell the reason for the Alien And Sedition Acts was

The Alien and Sedition Acts were passed by Congress in 1798 in preparation for an anticipated war with France. The Naturalization Act increased the residency requirement for American citizenship from five to fourteen years, required aliens to declare their intent to acquire citizenship five years before it could be granted, and rendered people from enemy nations ineligible for naturalization. The subsequent Sedition Act banned the publishing of scandalous or malicious writings against the government. The acts were designed by Federalists to limit the power of the opposition Republican Party, but enforcement ended after Thomas Jefferson was elected president in 1800.
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Post  Jammer on Mon May 09, 2016 4:11 pm

Progressive liberals are pure evil.  They not only outright lie on every occasion that benefits them; they have used revisionist historians to taint the knowledge of our children and grandchildren by rewriting history.

As English novelist Samuel Butler once wrote: Though God cannot alter the past--historians can

For anyone who is really interested in what our Founders believed, please do not rely on the liberal revisionist history books that are used by the progressive liberal propaganda machine.  There are several sources available that take you directly to the words of our Founders.  You also do need to read their words and sometimes do a little research on what the words meant in the time of our Founders.  The liberals always forget to tell people that some words today do not have the same meaning as they did in 1776.

Here is a GREAT BOOK that is dedicated to the TRUE Thomas Jefferson in his OWN WORDS.

http://www.amazon.com/Real-Thomas-Jefferson-American-Classic/dp/0880800062


And here is a link to a 1768 Dictionary.  You have to scroll down quite a few pages before you will get to the actual dictionary part where they provide definitions.  If you ever need this source, it is helpful.

https://books.google.com/books?id=bXsCAAAAQAAJ&pg=PT7&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Jammer on Mon May 09, 2016 4:12 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
[size=32]http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts[/size]

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Just provide the source you have in mind that specifically states the main purpose of the Alien and Sedition Acts was only for voter suppression as you claim.

I am sure it will be simple for you.

Why do you waste your time with a mental midget who is also a lying piece of dogshit?
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 4:24 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
[size=32]http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts[/size]

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Opens just fine for me. 
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 4:41 pm


Dr. Jones wrote:Opens just fine for me. 

Responding without PERMISSION of anybody except me !!

Here is the LINK you provide ... you try it.

]http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts[/size]

Rather than fooling around with a link not working just provide the link that proves your claim the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts.
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 5:02 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts
Ummm..... no.   The link is right here.
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Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 5:42 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts
Ummm..... no.   The link is right here.

Forget it, you had your chance.

FYI, I looked at about five different sites and failed to find any that stated the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression.

Now one could surmise potential voters might be affected due to the period for citizenship was increased from five years to 14 years ... but no where did any source specifically state the main purpose of these acts was for voter suppression.

Also for your information .. the link you finally supply without the errors is one of the five I found a long time ago. Do a search for "voter suppression" and you will not find those terms in the text

You were repeatedly asked to prove your claim and failed to do so, therefore the only conclusion is as Jammer states you are just a pile of lying liberal dogshit.
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 6:01 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts
Ummm..... no.   The link is right here.

Forget it, you had your chance.

FYI, I looked at about five different sites and failed to find any that stated the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression.

Now one could surmise potential voters might be affected due to the period for citizenship was increased from five years to 14 years ... but no where did any source specifically state the main purpose of these acts was for voter suppression.

Also for your information .. the link you finally supply without the errors is one of the five I found a long time ago.  Do a search for "voter suppression" and you will not find those terms in the text

You were repeatedly asked to prove your claim and failed to do so, therefore the only conclusion is as Jammer states you are just a pile of lying liberal dogshit.



Armed with these statutes, Federalists attempted to suppress Republican opposition on the basis of ideological differences...



You're a buffoon


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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Jammer on Mon May 09, 2016 6:02 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts
Ummm..... no.   The link is right here.

Forget it, you had your chance.

FYI, I looked at about five different sites and failed to find any that stated the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression.

Now one could surmise potential voters might be affected due to the period for citizenship was increased from five years to 14 years ... but no where did any source specifically state the main purpose of these acts was for voter suppression.

Also for your information .. the link you finally supply without the errors is one of the five I found a long time ago.  Do a search for "voter suppression" and you will not find those terms in the text

You were repeatedly asked to prove your claim and failed to do so, therefore the only conclusion is as Jammer states you are just a pile of lying liberal dogshit.

   YOU DOUBTED ME?????    
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon May 09, 2016 6:29 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 6:38 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  
Granted, it's no hotair.com or those no name cowards at zero hedge, but it's better than anything you've cited. Suspect Suspect Suspect
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 7:05 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  


Jonsey's weak History Channel link makes no mention that the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression as he so proudly claims.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 7:16 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  


Jonsey's weak History Channel link makes no mention that the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression as he so proudly claims.
Just for you....again.

Armed with these statutes, Federalists attempted to suppress Republican opposition on the basis of ideological differences....
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Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 7:45 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  


Jonsey's weak History Channel link makes no mention that the main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression as he so proudly claims.
Just for you....again.

Armed with these statutes, Federalists attempted to suppress Republican opposition on the basis of ideological differences....

You ARE a buffoon ... only you can see " main purpose of the Alien And Sedition Acts was voter suppression" in the little quote you posted.
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon May 09, 2016 7:47 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  
Granted, it's no hotair.com or those no name cowards at zero hedge, but it's better than anything you've cited. Suspect Suspect Suspect

And where am I wrong? Prove any of my 3 points wrong or shut your yap Fcukstik.
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Jammer on Mon May 09, 2016 8:02 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  
Granted, it's no hotair.com or those no name cowards at zero hedge, but it's better than anything you've cited. Suspect Suspect Suspect

And where am I wrong? Prove any of my 3 points wrong or shut your yap Fcukstik.

AND JUST WHT DO YOU THINK THE CHANCES OF THAT ARE?
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Re: What a bunch of hypocrites the members of the GOP elite/establishment are

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon May 09, 2016 8:53 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:    The main purpose was voter supression.  Federalists didn't need those pesky immigrants joining sides with Jefferson Republicans.

Source that proves this claim is needed.
http://www.history.com/topics/alien-and-sedition-acts

I fcuking knew it. The crappy History Channel. They should stick to "Ice Road Truckers" and "Pawn Stars". And their blurb on the Alien and Sedition Acts says nothing about voter suppression. Jeebus

The likely hood of the Alien Act being used by the Federal government to suppress voting is a stretch. A couple of points to keep in mind.

1)In the earlier Presidential elections about half of the states chose electors by their state legislatures not by direct vote. Voter suppression in those states would have made no sense.

2) Senators were chosen by legislatures, not direct election. Again voter suppression would have made no sense.

3) States controlled (and still do) voter requirements and until 1996 states if they wanted, could have extended suffrage to aliens. In fact there were some instances of suffrage being extended to aliens in state and local elections in the 1790s. The biggest limiting factor in those times was property ownership and freeman status.

What we have is a classical example of presentism, which is the interpretation of the past with present day attitudes and concepts.  
Granted, it's no hotair.com or those no name cowards at zero hedge, but it's better than anything you've cited. Suspect Suspect Suspect

And where am I wrong? Prove any of my 3 points wrong or shut your yap Fcukstik.
One article after another that supports my opinion on this:

https://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Winter07/alien.cfm

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h463.html

https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/kentucky-and-virginia-resolutions

http://www.crf-usa.org/america-responds-to-terrorism/the-alien-and-sedition-acts.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1798

Show me yours and I'll think about it.
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Post  Skeptical on Mon May 09, 2016 10:03 pm

Dr. Jones wrote: Show me yours and I'll think about it.

That was a game usually played only by immature kids of ages 5-8.

Why are you still playing it?
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