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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:51 am

At least three House Democrats disrupted the moment of silence for the victims in Orlando.

This action doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an azzhole.

Way to go Dems.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:12 am

How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.
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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:17 am

Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

 


As many as it takes for azzhole Dems to admit they are azzholes and their final solution is to remove all guns from law abiding citizens.

How about that many?


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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:35 am

Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.
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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:42 am

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.


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Post  Skeptical on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:04 pm

nightlight88 wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.


Live at this minute.

The Divider-in-Chief is at it again.


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You can say that again .. I managed to force myself to listen to the MT suit HMWAIC flap his lips for all of 90 seconds then changed channel!
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:38 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?
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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:49 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

***SIGH***


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From the left: left wingers are soooooo smart and intellectual


I am amazed you can't follow the rabbit trail.

Shooting incident in Orlando

You intimate that the victims are crying 'enough silence', meaning do something about guns.

Calls for more gun control

Dems will call for the divider in chief to issue executive orders removing guns from the legal owners

bypassing due process
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Post  Clicker on Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:05 pm

Dumbshit Dems have been beating the drums screeching to high heaven endlessly that Reps are dividers etc. Now comes an opportunity for them to hum and sway with those they accuse and what do they do? They show their disrespect for not only the dead (probably mostly their former voters) in an attempt to show that Reps don't deserve any respect for extending their hand in peace. The Dimms will even trample their own idealogical kindred to make a point. Kinda like the Lady and the Snake. Dems are proving daily that they are really snakes...............
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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:15 pm

Clicker wrote:Dumbshit Dems have been beating the drums screeching to high heaven endlessly that Reps are dividers etc.   Now comes an opportunity for them to hum and sway with those they accuse and what do they do?  They show their disrespect for not only the dead (probably mostly their former voters) in an attempt to show that Reps don't deserve any respect for extending their hand in peace.  The Dimms will even trample their own idealogical kindred to make a point.  Kinda like the Lady and the Snake.  Dems are proving daily that they are really snakes...............


Snakes hiss

Dogs eat their vomit

Jackasses bray

Liberals lie


ITS IN THEIR NATURE
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:40 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html
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Re: Disrespect

Post  Clicker on Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:37 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

Ted Kennedy? Probably wasn't a mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:41 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by Democrats choosing to no longer be silent.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:33 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by the actions of the Democrats.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

#1. Total speculation on your part.

#2. The right of a person to freely travel in this country is a fundamental right going back to the Articles of Confederation. Being placed on a do not fly list with out good reason or a chance of appeal is arbitrary and capricious. To deny someone their right to lawfully purchase firearm for self defense based solely on an arbitrary act is a denial of due process.

“The due process clause requires that every man shall have the protection of his day in court, and the benefit of the general law, a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds not arbitrarily or capriciously, but upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial, so that every citizen shall hold his life, liberty, property and immunities under the protection of the general rules which govern society. It, of course, tends to secure equality of law in the sense that it makes a required minimum of protection for every one’s right of life, liberty, and property, which the Congress or the Legislature may not withhold.” - Chief Justice Howard Taft.

#3. Jeebus
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:49 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by the actions of the Democrats.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

#1. Total speculation on your part.

#2. The right of a person to freely travel in this country is a fundamental right going back to the Articles of Confederation. Being placed on a do not fly list with out good reason or a chance of appeal is arbitrary and capricious. To deny someone their right to lawfully purchase firearm for self defense based solely on an arbitrary act is a denial of due process.

“The due process clause requires that every man shall have the protection of his day in court, and the benefit of the general law, a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds not arbitrarily or capriciously, but upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial, so that every citizen shall hold his life, liberty, property and immunities under the protection of the general rules which govern society. It, of course, tends to secure equality of law in the sense that it makes a required minimum of protection for every one’s right of life, liberty, and property, which the Congress or the Legislature may not withhold.” - Chief Justice Howard Taft.

#3. Jeebus

So you think we shouldn't try to regulate who flies in and out of our country? And you think that racial profiling violates the Constitution?
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:11 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by the actions of the Democrats.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

#1. Total speculation on your part.

#2. The right of a person to freely travel in this country is a fundamental right going back to the Articles of Confederation. Being placed on a do not fly list with out good reason or a chance of appeal is arbitrary and capricious. To deny someone their right to lawfully purchase firearm for self defense based solely on an arbitrary act is a denial of due process.

“The due process clause requires that every man shall have the protection of his day in court, and the benefit of the general law, a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds not arbitrarily or capriciously, but upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial, so that every citizen shall hold his life, liberty, property and immunities under the protection of the general rules which govern society. It, of course, tends to secure equality of law in the sense that it makes a required minimum of protection for every one’s right of life, liberty, and property, which the Congress or the Legislature may not withhold.” - Chief Justice Howard Taft.

#3. Jeebus

So you think we shouldn't try to regulate who flies in and out of our country?  And you think that racial profiling violates the Constitution?

I didn't say that Farmer Fcukstik but thanks for speaking for me. I said the system by which it is decided who is on the no fly list is fundamentally flawed. Because of secrecy surrounding the list, the public has no clue as to how many people are on the No Fly List. Until you try to fly and are denied boarding, you have no idea if you are on it. The criteria for inclusion on the list are so vacuous that innocent people engaged in free speech and association are being ensnared. Even simple mistakes such as a T. Kennedy being on the list caused headaches for Sen Ted Kennedy. The process established by the government for people to appeal their inclusion is confusing,vague and insufficient and violates the Constitutional due process guarantees. To attach a prohibition of gun purchases to such a seriously flawed process compounds the due process violation(s). The law that gun control advocates want to pass in the House would have accomplished nothing in the case or the Orlando shooter. The FBI had him twice and dropped the ball.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:44 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by the actions of the Democrats.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

#1. Total speculation on your part.

#2. The right of a person to freely travel in this country is a fundamental right going back to the Articles of Confederation. Being placed on a do not fly list with out good reason or a chance of appeal is arbitrary and capricious. To deny someone their right to lawfully purchase firearm for self defense based solely on an arbitrary act is a denial of due process.

“The due process clause requires that every man shall have the protection of his day in court, and the benefit of the general law, a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds not arbitrarily or capriciously, but upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial, so that every citizen shall hold his life, liberty, property and immunities under the protection of the general rules which govern society. It, of course, tends to secure equality of law in the sense that it makes a required minimum of protection for every one’s right of life, liberty, and property, which the Congress or the Legislature may not withhold.” - Chief Justice Howard Taft.

#3. Jeebus

So you think we shouldn't try to regulate who flies in and out of our country?  And you think that racial profiling violates the Constitution?

I didn't say that Farmer Fcukstik but thanks for speaking for me. I said the system by which it is decided who is on the no fly list is fundamentally flawed.  Because of secrecy surrounding the list, the public has no clue as to how many people are on the No Fly List. Until you try to fly and are denied boarding, you have no idea if you are on it. The criteria for inclusion on the list are so vacuous that innocent people engaged in free speech and association are being ensnared. Even simple mistakes such as a T. Kennedy being on the list caused headaches for Sen Ted Kennedy. The process established by the government for people to appeal their inclusion is confusing,vague and insufficient and violates the Constitutional due process guarantees. To attach a prohibition of gun purchases to such a seriously flawed process compounds the due process violation(s). The law that gun control advocates want to pass in the House would have accomplished nothing in the case or the Orlando shooter. The FBI had him twice and dropped the ball.

What would you do to fix the no fly list?  Or are you bitching just to bitch?

Omar Mateen should not have owned a gun, and not just because of his two terror investigations.  But they should have played a role.  He had a history of erratic, violent behavior/threats, that was well documented as it actually triggered these probes.  I believe his first wife filed a report of his abusecond.  He shouldn't have had a gun.  No way,  no how.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:05 pm

This is one thing we need to do better as a society, documenting and reporting the behavior of others. If you have a history of violence or threatening others you shouldnt be allowed to own a gun. Period. Like people who talk about incessantly about that tree hugging bitch down the street. They should be on a BB gun only list. Single shot.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:19 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by the actions of the Democrats.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

#1. Total speculation on your part.

#2. The right of a person to freely travel in this country is a fundamental right going back to the Articles of Confederation. Being placed on a do not fly list with out good reason or a chance of appeal is arbitrary and capricious. To deny someone their right to lawfully purchase firearm for self defense based solely on an arbitrary act is a denial of due process.

“The due process clause requires that every man shall have the protection of his day in court, and the benefit of the general law, a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds not arbitrarily or capriciously, but upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial, so that every citizen shall hold his life, liberty, property and immunities under the protection of the general rules which govern society. It, of course, tends to secure equality of law in the sense that it makes a required minimum of protection for every one’s right of life, liberty, and property, which the Congress or the Legislature may not withhold.” - Chief Justice Howard Taft.

#3. Jeebus

So you think we shouldn't try to regulate who flies in and out of our country?  And you think that racial profiling violates the Constitution?

I didn't say that Farmer Fcukstik but thanks for speaking for me. I said the system by which it is decided who is on the no fly list is fundamentally flawed.  Because of secrecy surrounding the list, the public has no clue as to how many people are on the No Fly List. Until you try to fly and are denied boarding, you have no idea if you are on it. The criteria for inclusion on the list are so vacuous that innocent people engaged in free speech and association are being ensnared. Even simple mistakes such as a T. Kennedy being on the list caused headaches for Sen Ted Kennedy. The process established by the government for people to appeal their inclusion is confusing,vague and insufficient and violates the Constitutional due process guarantees. To attach a prohibition of gun purchases to such a seriously flawed process compounds the due process violation(s). The law that gun control advocates want to pass in the House would have accomplished nothing in the case or the Orlando shooter. The FBI had him twice and dropped the ball.

What would you do to fix the no fly list?  Or are you bitching just to bitch?

Omar Mateen should not have owned a gun, and not just because of his two terror investigations.  But they should have played a role.  He had a history of erratic, violent behavior/threats, that was well documented as it actually triggered these probes.  I believe his first wife filed a report of his abusecond.  He shouldn't have had a gun.  No way,  no how.

While that's above my pay grade, I would definitely add a more transparent appeal system whereby a plaintiff could take advantage of discovery tools such as depositions and interrogatories in court. Right now it sounds like you are totally blind and unable to get any information what so ever.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:31 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:How many threads does there need to be on this topic?

I would say that if you could ask any one of the victims they would tell you that people have been silent long enough.  

So Farmer Fcukstik is in favor of denying people due process. Two thumbs up to you Jackoff.

What's this have to do with due process?

One of the proposed pieces of legislation that the Dem House members were shouting to have brought up for a vote would prevent people who are on the FBI's no-fly list from buying guns. However the no-fly list has some real issues not the least which is it's imprecision. For example ,Sen Ted Kennedy was mistaken for someone on the selectee list which requires additional screening, creating problems for him boarding planes. It took several weeks before the mistake could be corrected. Because of vague guidelines, undefined terminology and flawed appeal process, the no-fly list bureaucracy can and does deny people due process under the law.

An article from Huffington on the bs process of terror watch lists/no-fly lists.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/terrorist-watch-list_n_5617599.html

#1.  The thread was about Democrats showing "disrespect" to the victims by not being silent for the moment of silence.  It's tough to speak for the deceased, but I'm confident many would have been moved by the actions of the Democrats.

#2.  We're not talking about boarding a plane.  Ted Kennedy's issue certainly needs to be addressed but we're talking about something much, much more trivial.  Buying a gun.  People may have to wait a few more days to shoot their empty beer cans while things are sorted out, but I'm sure they'll survive.  Look at the bright side.   It'll give them more time to fuuck their sister.

#3.  It still has nothing to do with due process.  Think of it as racial profiling.  You guys don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

#1. Total speculation on your part.

#2. The right of a person to freely travel in this country is a fundamental right going back to the Articles of Confederation. Being placed on a do not fly list with out good reason or a chance of appeal is arbitrary and capricious. To deny someone their right to lawfully purchase firearm for self defense based solely on an arbitrary act is a denial of due process.

“The due process clause requires that every man shall have the protection of his day in court, and the benefit of the general law, a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds not arbitrarily or capriciously, but upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial, so that every citizen shall hold his life, liberty, property and immunities under the protection of the general rules which govern society. It, of course, tends to secure equality of law in the sense that it makes a required minimum of protection for every one’s right of life, liberty, and property, which the Congress or the Legislature may not withhold.” - Chief Justice Howard Taft.

#3. Jeebus

So you think we shouldn't try to regulate who flies in and out of our country?  And you think that racial profiling violates the Constitution?

I didn't say that Farmer Fcukstik but thanks for speaking for me. I said the system by which it is decided who is on the no fly list is fundamentally flawed.  Because of secrecy surrounding the list, the public has no clue as to how many people are on the No Fly List. Until you try to fly and are denied boarding, you have no idea if you are on it. The criteria for inclusion on the list are so vacuous that innocent people engaged in free speech and association are being ensnared. Even simple mistakes such as a T. Kennedy being on the list caused headaches for Sen Ted Kennedy. The process established by the government for people to appeal their inclusion is confusing,vague and insufficient and violates the Constitutional due process guarantees. To attach a prohibition of gun purchases to such a seriously flawed process compounds the due process violation(s). The law that gun control advocates want to pass in the House would have accomplished nothing in the case or the Orlando shooter. The FBI had him twice and dropped the ball.

What would you do to fix the no fly list?  Or are you bitching just to bitch?

Omar Mateen should not have owned a gun, and not just because of his two terror investigations.  But they should have played a role.  He had a history of erratic, violent behavior/threats, that was well documented as it actually triggered these probes.  I believe his first wife filed a report of his abusecond.  He shouldn't have had a gun.  No way,  no how.

While that's above my pay grade, I would definitely add a more transparent appeal system whereby a plaintiff could take advantage of discovery tools such as depositions and interrogatories in court. Right now it sounds like you are totally blind and unable to get any information what so ever.

That's interesting, hadn't heard that.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:35 pm

It's nice to see the country come together in such tough times. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

AL county won't lower flag in honor
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/alabama-county-refuse-lower-flag-orlando/index.html
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:05 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:It's nice to see the country come together in such tough times.  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

AL county won't lower flag in honor
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/alabama-county-refuse-lower-flag-orlando/index.html

So the purpose of having a flag code is so an arrogant azz of a President can ignore it willy nilly. I see.

The Baldwin County Commissioner is correct.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7
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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:23 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:It's nice to see the country come together in such tough times.  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

AL county won't lower flag in honor
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/alabama-county-refuse-lower-flag-orlando/index.html

So the purpose of having a flag code is so an arrogant azz of a President can ignore it willy nilly. I see.

The Baldwin County Commissioner is correct.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/7

Not according to the US Department of Veterans Affairs:

http://www.index.va.gov/search/va/va_search.jsp?NQ=URL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.va.gov%2F&QT=Flag+flying+half+staff&submit.x=31&submit.y=11&submit=Search

A PDF, under flag etiquette....
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Post  Dr. Evil on Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:03 am

Little silver lining.

Utah lt. gov. changes heart on LGBT
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/spencer-cox-apology-orlando/index.html
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Post  Darth Cheney on Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:12 am

Dr. Jones wrote:Little silver lining.

Utah lt. gov. changes heart on LGBT
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/spencer-cox-apology-orlando/index.html

You ever notice how the kweers and faggots are not much different than radical Islamists? Always demanding everyone bow down to their perverted and immoral lifestyles rather than accept some may have different beliefs based on morality and spiritual guidance. I guess the main difference is the one group is willing to murder the other group out of compassion. Enjoy your political correctness fools!
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