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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:17 am

FBI recommends no charges to be filed in Clinton email case.
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Post  Skeptical on Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:35 am

Gomezz Adddams wrote:FBI recommends no charges to be filed in Clinton email case.

Was there ever doubt she would walk away free from this?

I'm afraid we now know she and others like her are in fact above the law and will 'rule' as they see fit given they aren't held accountable.

FWIW, In short, even though he stated Hillary was very careless in handling classified material Mr. Comey basically said U.S.C. Code 793, section f does not apply in this case.

(f)   Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both


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Post  Clicker on Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:11 pm

Just had coffee with a few friends.  We all were in the military and all held Top Secret clearances of one type or another.  We aren't all Reps over half are Dems.  We all agree however that if any of us had done what the broomrider did, we'd be in jail awaiting trial....................and prison........at Fort Levenworth.
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Post  Skeptical on Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:24 pm

Clicker wrote:Just had coffee with a few friends.  We all were in the military and all held Top Secret clearances of one type or another.  We aren't all Reps over half are Dems.  We all agree however that if any of us had done what the broomrider did, we'd be in jail awaiting trial....................and prison........at Fort Levenworth.

Ditto to that!

Heck a person didn't need to have any level of clearance to get in trouble saying the wrong things while on a telephone.

Remember the old COMSEC/OPSEC regimen?
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Post  Skeptical on Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:12 pm


Here is another perspective of Hillary walking from a member of another opinion forum.

Although the Federal Bureau of Investigation has decided not to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton, FBI Director James Comey's lengthy statement on the investigation into Clinton's private email server did expose a number of falsehoods the former Secretary of State has been repeating since the investigation began. During Comey's 15 minute statement, Clinton's talking-points were systematically taken apart, piece-by-piece.

Here are the five most blatant lies that were destroyed during Tuesday's statement to the press:

1. Hillary Never Sent Or Received Classified Emails

On March 10, 2016 Hillary Clinton stated categorically, "I did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. There is no classified material. I’m certainly well-aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material."

Comey said:
From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

2. Hillary Never Sent Or Received Emails MARKED Classified

At a Las Vegas press conference on August 18th 2015, Clinton said "Whether it was a personal account or a government account, I did not send classified material and I did not receive any material that was marked or designated classified, which is the way you know whether something is."

Comey:
[A] very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked "classified" in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

3. Hillary’s Lawyers Read Every Email While Sorting Personal Correspondence vs Government

Hillary Clinton and her lawyers have long claimed that every email was read to determine whether or not it was work-related or personal.

Clinton press secretary Nick Merrill had told Time Magazine that her attorneys had individually read every email to determine if it was a government document or personal correspondence. "Every one of the more than 60,000 emails were read. Period."

Not so according to Comey.
Comey:
The lawyers doing the sorting for Secretary Clinton in 2014 did not individually read the content of all of her e-mails, as we did for those available to us; instead, they relied on header information and used search terms to try to find all work-related e-mails among the reportedly more than 60,000 total e-mails remaining on Secretary Clinton’s personal system in 2014. It is highly likely their search terms missed some work-related e-mails, and that we later found them, for example, in the mailboxes of other officials or in the slack space of a server.

4. Hillary Turned Over All Work-Related Emails To Investigators

Hillary claimed that all of her work-related emails had been turned over to the State Department. "I have absolute confidence that everything that could be in any way connected to work is now in the possession of the State Department," Clinton claimed in March of 2015.

Comey:
The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond. This helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.

Director Comey also stated that there were some work-related emails that were permanently deleted, and will likely never to be found:

It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all e-mails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery.

5. Hillary’s Emails Couldn’t Have Been Compromised

Comey:
With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:55 pm

This was political theater at it's finest. It's been speculated by people more knowledgable then moi that some of the "top secret" email chains happened between Broomrider and Obummer and that implicated the President as well.  The fix was put in by the Executive Branch. Go ahead and investigate and then end it. How anyone can spend 15 minutes detailing egregious mishandling of top secret information and then conclude there was no prosecutable case is beyond me and others far more knowledgeable of the law. Comey should either resign or absent that should face impeachment.
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Post  Darth Cheney on Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:40 pm

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Post  Clicker on Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:38 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:This was political theater at it's finest. It's been speculated by people more knowledgable then moi that some of the "top secret" email chains happened between Broomrider and Obummer and that implicated the President as well.  The fix was put in by the Executive Branch. Go ahead and investigate and then end it. How anyone can spend 15 minutes detailing egregious mishandling of top secret information and then conclude there was no prosecutable case is beyond me and others far more knowledgeable of the law. Comey should either resign or absent that should face impeachment.

We were constantly warned to make sure all comms leaving the comm room had a TS on them. They were later reviewed to determine if the TS was appropo. One of the radiomen on our ship "disappeared" one day and we learned he'd been bagged by Naval Intelligence because he mentioned a TS item in a letter he wrote to his Dad. We never put any mail in the Navy PO again. Not even when deployed. ONI was everywhere and this was in 1960!!!!
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Post  Darth Cheney on Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:30 pm

Clicker wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:This was political theater at it's finest. It's been speculated by people more knowledgable then moi that some of the "top secret" email chains happened between Broomrider and Obummer and that implicated the President as well.  The fix was put in by the Executive Branch. Go ahead and investigate and then end it. How anyone can spend 15 minutes detailing egregious mishandling of top secret information and then conclude there was no prosecutable case is beyond me and others far more knowledgeable of the law. Comey should either resign or absent that should face impeachment.

We were constantly warned to make sure all comms leaving the comm room had a TS on them.  They were later reviewed to determine if the TS was appropo.  One of the radiomen on our ship "disappeared" one day and we learned he'd been bagged by Naval Intelligence because he mentioned a TS item in a letter he wrote to his Dad.  We never put any mail in the Navy PO again.  Not even when deployed. ONI was everywhere and this was in 1960!!!!

We have a black, Mooslim loving, communist as prezzy now so you better get used to it!
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Post  Just Braying It on Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:50 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:This was political theater at it's finest. It's been speculated by people more knowledgable then moi that some of the "top secret" email chains happened between Broomrider and Obummer and that implicated the President as well.  The fix was put in by the Executive Branch. Go ahead and investigate and then end it. How anyone can spend 15 minutes detailing egregious mishandling of top secret information and then conclude there was no prosecutable case is beyond me and others far more knowledgeable of the law. Comey should either resign or absent that should face impeachment.
This was speculated? Well get the rope, we have a speculation on our hands!

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