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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:40 pm

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Post  nightlight88 on Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:05 pm

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Leave it up to idiots like Dr Mengele to think the Constitution "GIVES" us anything.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Darth Cheney on Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:08 am

They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Dr. Evil on Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:03 am

nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:


Leave it up to idiots like Dr Mengele to think the Constitution "GIVES" us anything.

Then why do we even have a Constitution?
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Dr. Evil on Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:07 am

Darth Cheney wrote:They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.

What does separation of church and state mean?
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Darth Cheney on Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:24 am

Dr. Evil wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.

What does separation of church and state mean?

It means the feral government shall not dictate or promote a single religion over other religions. What it doesn't mean is there can be no religious principles practiced within government. I know you don't have the mental capability to understand so go back to celebrating the murdering of defenseless babies you worthless POS.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Dr. Evil on Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:50 am

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Dr. Evil wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.

What does separation of church and state mean?

It means the feral government shall not dictate or promote a single religion over other religions. What it doesn't mean is there can be no religious principles practiced within government. I know you don't have the mental capability to understand so go back to celebrating the murdering of defenseless babies you worthless POS.

I believe you're referring to 'Fredom of Religion'. But you're still missing the mark. I'll have to explain it to you later. Have to go to church now.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Clicker on Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:36 pm

Freedon OF religion not freedom FROM religion. The separation is designed to prevent the influence of govt by religion and vice versa. That is one reason why religions are not taxed. The separations is a direct result of the Catholic churches influence over govt when the world was owned and operated by royalty empowered and controlled by the church, AKA the Holy Roman Empire inc.. One of the first actions preceeding the separations actions was Martin Luthers revolt from the Catholic Church. That's a bit over simplistic and I'm sure there are other opinions and "alternate facts". There always is when religion is the subject.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Dr. Evil on Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:53 am

Clicker wrote:Freedon OF religion not freedom FROM religion.  The separation  is designed to prevent the influence of govt by religion and vice versa.  That is one reason why religions are not taxed.  The separations is a direct result of the Catholic churches influence over govt when the world was owned and operated by royalty empowered and controlled by the church, AKA the Holy Roman Empire inc..  One of the first actions preceeding the separations actions was Martin Luthers revolt from the Catholic Church.  That's a bit over simplistic and I'm sure there are other opinions and "alternate facts".  There always is when religion is the subject.

Yes and no. Churches enjoy the same tax exempt status many other non profit organizations do. The only difference is that theirs is more implied, in that they don't have to file any of the paperwork.

There was a growing secular movement around the time of the birth of our nation, of which a number of our founding fathers took part. The tyranny you referenced was certainly a large part of it, but science also played a role in this. There were many who were truly questioning creationism and all of the things that surrounded it. Inclusion also played a role. They realized that not everybody had the same religious beliefs. Even people in the same church don't share the same religious beliefs. There were a number of reasons that the founding fathers chose to keep religion out of our government. Atheism certainly being one of them. Therefore fredom FROM religion is definately necessary.
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Post  Clicker on Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:28 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:Freedon OF religion not freedom FROM religion.  The separation  is designed to prevent the influence of govt by religion and vice versa.  That is one reason why religions are not taxed.  The separations is a direct result of the Catholic churches influence over govt when the world was owned and operated by royalty empowered and controlled by the church, AKA the Holy Roman Empire inc..  One of the first actions preceeding the separations actions was Martin Luthers revolt from the Catholic Church.  That's a bit over simplistic and I'm sure there are other opinions and "alternate facts".  There always is when religion is the subject.

Yes and no. Churches enjoy the same tax exempt status many other non profit organizations do. The only difference is that theirs is more implied, in that they don't have to file any of the paperwork.

There was a growing secular movement around the time of the birth of our nation, of which a number of our founding fathers took part. The tyranny you referenced was certainly a large part of it, but science also played a role in this. There were many who were truly questioning creationism and all of the things that surrounded it. Inclusion also played a role. They realized that not everybody had the same religious beliefs. Even people in the same church don't share the same religious beliefs. There were a number of reasons that the founding fathers chose to keep religion out of our government. Atheism certainly being one of them. Therefore fredom FROM religion is definately necessary.

You're a bit off. Many religious groups moved here to escape religious persecution. They are the primary reason for the separations clause. They wanted freedom from govt intervention in their religious beleifs and in many cases practrices.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:42 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:Freedon OF religion not freedom FROM religion.  The separation  is designed to prevent the influence of govt by religion and vice versa.  That is one reason why religions are not taxed.  The separations is a direct result of the Catholic churches influence over govt when the world was owned and operated by royalty empowered and controlled by the church, AKA the Holy Roman Empire inc..  One of the first actions preceeding the separations actions was Martin Luthers revolt from the Catholic Church.  That's a bit over simplistic and I'm sure there are other opinions and "alternate facts".  There always is when religion is the subject.

Yes and no. Churches enjoy the same tax exempt status many other non profit organizations do. The only difference is that theirs is more implied, in that they don't have to file any of the paperwork.

There was a growing secular movement around the time of the birth of our nation, of which a number of our founding fathers took part. The tyranny you referenced was certainly a large part of it, but science also played a role in this. There were many who were truly questioning creationism and all of the things that surrounded it. Inclusion also played a role. They realized that not everybody had the same religious beliefs. Even people in the same church don't share the same religious beliefs. There were a number of reasons that the founding fathers chose to keep religion out of our government. Atheism certainly being one of them. Therefore fredom FROM religion is definately necessary.

While the Federal government was explicitly prohibited from passing laws "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" the States weren't and religious establishment continued in many states until well into the 1800s.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:18 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.

What does separation of church and state mean?

Hey asshole, the term "separation of church and state" is NOT in the Constitution.  Try arguing something that is relevant rather than your FAKE HISTORY.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:27 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.

What does separation of church and state mean?

Hey asshole, the term "separation of church and state" is NOT in the Constitution.  Try arguing something that is relevant rather than your FAKE HISTORY.

Hey asshole, Darth brought it up. Not me.
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Re: Conservative Logic

Post  Jammer on Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:06 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:They also have no idea what separation of church and state means. Their understanding of our founding documents and our form of governance is a prime example of our failed public school system they so grasp on keeping.

What does separation of church and state mean?

Hey asshole, the term "separation of church and state" is NOT in the Constitution.  Try arguing something that is relevant rather than your FAKE HISTORY.

Hey asshole, Darth brought it up. Not me.

Hey asshole, he did not.  He merely made a comment to your stupidity and you latched on to a phrase in his comment in your attempt to use the Constitution to advance your EVIL AGENDA.  You are nothing but a slimy piece of dogshit.  There is no place in a civil society for EVIL CRETINS like you.
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