Green energy suffers a setback in setback referendum

Green energy was dealt a blow on Tuesday.

Lincoln County has a lot of Obama-hating, earth haters. No surprise in this vote.

http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/Lincoln-County-voters-approve-setback-change-for-wind-turbine-projects-435300773.html

Shortie's Ex wrote:Green energy was dealt a blow on Tuesday.

Lincoln County has a lot of Obama-hating, earth haters. No surprise in this vote.

http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/Lincoln-County-voters-approve-setback-change-for-wind-turbine-projects-435300773.html

I expect nothing less from an ignorant tree hugger that has no idea what creates energy and what is real and what is fake. Wind generated power has always been BS. They are not viable, have a life expectancy of 10 years and can't even come close to producing electricity are affordable rates. The ONLY reason they are constructed is to give clean air credits to coal plants which are the backbone of this country's energy. Now go back to the kitchen and make some sammiches for the men.

One more thing...erecting these boondoggles drives up the price of electricity from coal/nuclear methods. You liberal loons can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't punish everyone else. Of course, that is the entire point isn't it?

Darth Cheney wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:Green energy was dealt a blow on Tuesday.

Lincoln County has a lot of Obama-hating, earth haters.  No surprise in this vote.

http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/Lincoln-County-voters-approve-setback-change-for-wind-turbine-projects-435300773.html

I expect nothing less from an ignorant tree hugger that has no idea what creates energy and what is real and what is fake. Wind generated power has always been BS. They are not viable, have a life expectancy of 10 years and can't even come close to producing electricity are affordable rates. The ONLY reason they are constructed is to give clean air credits to coal plants which are the backbone of this country's energy. Now go back to the kitchen and make some sammiches for the men.

One more thing...erecting these boondoggles drives up the price of electricity from coal/nuclear methods. You liberal loons can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't punish everyone else. Of course, that is the entire point isn't it?

Just stumbled across this.... thought it was interesting.

What creates energy?

Dr. Evil wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:Green energy was dealt a blow on Tuesday.

Lincoln County has a lot of Obama-hating, earth haters.  No surprise in this vote.

http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/Lincoln-County-voters-approve-setback-change-for-wind-turbine-projects-435300773.html

I expect nothing less from an ignorant tree hugger that has no idea what creates energy and what is real and what is fake. Wind generated power has always been BS. They are not viable, have a life expectancy of 10 years and can't even come close to producing electricity are affordable rates. The ONLY reason they are constructed is to give clean air credits to coal plants which are the backbone of this country's energy. Now go back to the kitchen and make some sammiches for the men.

One more thing...erecting these boondoggles drives up the price of electricity from coal/nuclear methods. You liberal loons can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't punish everyone else. Of course, that is the entire point isn't it?

Just stumbled across this.... thought it was interesting.

What creates energy?

I'll fall for your unintelligent trap...

Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changes it's state.

Darth Cheney wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:Green energy was dealt a blow on Tuesday.

Lincoln County has a lot of Obama-hating, earth haters.  No surprise in this vote.

http://www.ksfy.com/content/news/Lincoln-County-voters-approve-setback-change-for-wind-turbine-projects-435300773.html

I expect nothing less from an ignorant tree hugger that has no idea what creates energy and what is real and what is fake. Wind generated power has always been BS. They are not viable, have a life expectancy of 10 years and can't even come close to producing electricity are affordable rates. The ONLY reason they are constructed is to give clean air credits to coal plants which are the backbone of this country's energy. Now go back to the kitchen and make some sammiches for the men.

One more thing...erecting these boondoggles drives up the price of electricity from coal/nuclear methods. You liberal loons can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't punish everyone else. Of course, that is the entire point isn't it?

Just stumbled across this.... thought it was interesting.

What creates energy?

I'll fall for your unintelligent trap...

Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changes it's state.

It's not really my question. I just assumed you had a better handle on it by the way you were foamomg at the mouth. Doesn't seem to be the case.

In the case of oil though, that energy was of course created by ancient sunlight or photosynthesis. Coal is simply carbon, and has already been replaced with much cheaper natural gas. All of which who's, speaking of viability and life expectancy, days are numbered. Fossil fuel and carbon based fuel are by definition unsustainable. It's simple math. Someday they will be short blip in human history. Much sooner than later.

Oil and coal are not energy, they are examples of matter

SEE

In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system in a given frame of reference remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another.

OR

The law of conservation of matter and energy states that matter is neither created nor destroyed but conserved. Humans do not have the ability to create or destroy matter (atoms) or energy. They can only rearrange the matter and energy.

These two laws may be reduced to simplest terms as taught in oh, say 7th grade science for example, "where matter disappears energy appears and conversely where energy disappears matter appears."

Skeptical wrote:
Oil and coal are not energy, they are examples of matter

SEE

In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system in a given frame of reference remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another.

OR

The law of conservation of matter and energy states that matter is neither created nor destroyed but conserved. Humans do not have the ability to create or destroy matter (atoms) or energy. They can only rearrange the matter and energy.

These two laws may be reduced to simplest terms as taught in oh, say 7th grade science for example, "where matter disappears energy appears and conversely where energy disappears matter appears."

Then "energy" as it's used by Americans to describe the resources, renewable or nonrenewable, used to do things like heat our homes and fuel our cars is wrong. Take it up with them, not me.

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:
Oil and coal are not energy, they are examples of matter

SEE

In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system in a given frame of reference remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another.

OR

The law of conservation of matter and energy states that matter is neither created nor destroyed but conserved. Humans do not have the ability to create or destroy matter (atoms) or energy. They can only rearrange the matter and energy.

These two laws may be reduced to simplest terms as taught in oh, say 7th grade science for example, "where matter disappears energy appears and conversely where energy disappears matter appears."

Then "energy" as it's used by Americans to describe the resources, renewable or nonrenewable, used to do things like heat our homes and fuel our cars is wrong. Take it up with them, not me.

No, I will leave the arguing to YOU and whomever ... after all it was you who last said,

In the case of oil though, that energy was of course created by ancient sunlight or photosynthesis. Coal is simply carbon

I think the laws quoted will be sufficient for most folks to comprehend that coal and oil are matter and not energy