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Post  Skeptical Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:19 pm


The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed
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Post  Dr. Evil Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:40 pm

Skeptical wrote:
The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed

What does the civil war mean to you?

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Post  Skeptical Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:45 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed

What does the civil war mean to you?

How is your life suddenly better since the statue was pulled down in Durham?
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Post  Dr. Evil Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:57 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed

What does the civil war mean to you?

How is your life suddenly better since the statue was pulled down in Durham?

I already answered question. Your turn.

If you were in a relationship or somewhat early in a marriage with someone who clung tight to their past relationships, would that relationship last? How about if you were with someone who clung to disagreements/arguments from your past and continually brought them up? Would that make for a healthy relationship. At some point there are things from your past that you have to give up. Wether that means having your ex's on speed dial, or rehashing old arguments. That doesn't mean that they should be forgotten at all, just neatly packaged up and put away.

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Post  Skeptical Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:44 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed

What does the civil war mean to you?

How is your life suddenly better since the statue was pulled down in Durham?

I already answered question. Your turn.

If you were in a relationship or somewhat early in a marriage with someone who clung tight to their past relationships, would that relationship last? How about if you were with someone who clung to disagreements/arguments from your past and continually brought them up? Would that make for a healthy relationship. At some point there are things from your past that you have to give up. Wether that means having your ex's on speed dial, or rehashing old arguments. That doesn't mean that they should be forgotten at all, just neatly packaged up and put away.

Not really youngster ... all you did was copy and paste your response to a post by Darth Cheney in another thread.  Do you recognize your rambling ??

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  Dr. Evil Today at 7:47 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Like the Taliban...the leftest feel a need to erase history, speech and thought if it doesn't mimic their beliefs. The irony is the slave holding Southerners were largely democrat.

I don't even know that the Taliban is the one throwing away historical artifacts. I believe that's mostly ISIS. I could be wrong. Either way, they're throwing things away just to be schitheads. That's who they are. That's what they do.

If you were in a relationship or somewhat early in a marriage with someone who clung tight to their past relationships, would that relationship last? How about if you were with someone who clung to disagreements/arguments from your past and continually brought them up? Would that make for a healthy relationship. At some point there are things from your past that you have to give up. Wether that means having your ex's on speed dial, or rehashing old arguments. That doesn't mean that they should be forgotten at all, just neatly packaged up and put away.

This doesn't even touch the racism aspect that the right not only refuses exists, but actively pretends to be victimized over.

Now, specifically how has your personal life immediately changed for the better by the statue being toppled??
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Post  Jammer Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:58 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed

What does the civil war mean to you?

How is your life suddenly better since the statue was pulled down in Durham?

I already answered question. Your turn.

If you were in a relationship or somewhat early in a marriage with someone who clung tight to their past relationships, would that relationship last? How about if you were with someone who clung to disagreements/arguments from your past and continually brought them up? Would that make for a healthy relationship. At some point there are things from your past that you have to give up. Wether that means having your ex's on speed dial, or rehashing old arguments. That doesn't mean that they should be forgotten at all, just neatly packaged up and put away.

Hey asshole, enough of the copy and paste from your George Soros funded website.  His talking points are getting old and bullshit still stinks no matter how many times you recycle it.
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Post  Clicker Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:40 pm

I wonder where the police were while the statue was being "removed"? Anybody checked to see if the local LEOs were given a stand down order?
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Post  Skeptical Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:48 pm

Clicker wrote:I wonder where the police were while the statue was being "removed"?  Anybody checked to see if the local LEOs were given a stand down order?

From the "YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" department

Durham police said they monitored the protests to make sure they were "safe" but did not interfere with the statue toppling because it happened on county property.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/durham-north-carolina-protesters-tear-down-confederate-monument/
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Post  Dr. Evil Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:23 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Clicker wrote:I wonder where the police were while the statue was being "removed"?  Anybody checked to see if the local LEOs were given a stand down order?

From the "YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" department

Durham police said they monitored the protests to make sure they were "safe" but did not interfere with the statue toppling because it happened on county property.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/durham-north-carolina-protesters-tear-down-confederate-monument/

What should they have done?

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Post  Clicker Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:27 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
What should they have done?

After arresting them for destruction of public property, I'd suggest a bill for the restoration of said property.
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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:34 am

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
The statue of a Confederate soldier in Durham, NC was pulled down recently.
How far will this movement to rewrite or demean history go?
How long before Monticello and/or anything related to Thomas Jefferson is destroyed?
How long before cries of "destroy Mount Vernon" happen (G. Washington had slaves)
What about Arlington National Cemetery since there are a few hundred former Confederate military members buried there?
What is to be gained by the removal or destruction of historical objects?

I wonder how many of those personally involved in the destruction of the statue in Durham will tell the country how and why their life is suddenly better because the statue is destroyed

What does the civil war mean to you?

How is your life suddenly better since the statue was pulled down in Durham?

I already answered question. Your turn.

If you were in a relationship or somewhat early in a marriage with someone who clung tight to their past relationships, would that relationship last? How about if you were with someone who clung to disagreements/arguments from your past and continually brought them up? Would that make for a healthy relationship. At some point there are things from your past that you have to give up. Wether that means having your ex's on speed dial, or rehashing old arguments. That doesn't mean that they should be forgotten at all, just neatly packaged up and put away.

Not really youngster ... all you did was copy and paste your response to a post by Darth Cheney in another thread.  Do you recognize your rambling ??

Re: Terror in Charlottesville
  Dr. Evil Today at 7:47 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Like the Taliban...the leftest feel a need to erase history, speech and thought if it doesn't mimic their beliefs. The irony is the slave holding Southerners were largely democrat.

I don't even know that the Taliban is the one throwing away historical artifacts. I believe that's mostly ISIS. I could be wrong. Either way, they're throwing things away just to be schitheads. That's who they are. That's what they do.

If you were in a relationship or somewhat early in a marriage with someone who clung tight to their past relationships, would that relationship last? How about if you were with someone who clung to disagreements/arguments from your past and continually brought them up? Would that make for a healthy relationship. At some point there are things from your past that you have to give up. Wether that means having your ex's on speed dial, or rehashing old arguments. That doesn't mean that they should be forgotten at all, just neatly packaged up and put away.

This doesn't even touch the racism aspect that the right not only refuses exists, but actively pretends to be victimized over.

Now, specifically how has your personal life immediately changed for the better by the statue being toppled??

Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

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Post  Skeptical Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:09 pm

Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!
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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:51 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!

But what does it mean to you? Should the South have just been allowed to secede? Do you agree with the outcome? Who would you have fought for? Jammer? How about you? Any thoughts?

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Post  Skeptical Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:42 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!

But what does it mean to you?  Should the South have just been allowed to secede? Do you agree with the outcome? Who would you have fought for? Jammer? How about you? Any thoughts?

Since it happened over 150 years ago it is history and I answered what the Civil War meant to me.
I had no skin in the game, nor did any of my ancestors, having just settled in the Midwest from Germany a couple of years prior to Fort Sumter. I am not and was not privy to the prevailing attitudes at the time by either the North or the South.

Just in case you think the deliberate destruction of statues, Mt Vernon, Monticello, University of Virginia, and/or renaming other objects named after certain folks living at that time and/or possessing an opinion counter to what some people in the modern world think will erase the events leading up to the war, the war itself, and post war life ... you are terribly mistaken.

Likewise, if you honestly believe,
my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start building shrines that celebrate our unity instead

you are also seriously mistaken.  

Not sure what "unity" you refer but the only unity existing in the United States at present is the concerted effort by the Socialists to tear down this once great country and create a Socialist welfare state.

Just in case you are referring to "unity" of the races you are again terribly wrong ... it will just get worse.  Rest assured with both of us sitting quietly in our homes minding our own business there will be others to carry the torch of racial disharmony possibly to the point of another civil war.
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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:54 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!

But what does it mean to you?  Should the South have just been allowed to secede? Do you agree with the outcome? Who would you have fought for? Jammer? How about you? Any thoughts?

Since it happened over 150 years ago it is history and I answered what the Civil War meant to me.
I had no skin in the game, nor did any of my ancestors, having just settled in the Midwest from Germany a couple of years prior to Fort Sumter.  I am not and was not privy to the prevailing attitudes at the time by either the North or the South.

Just in case you think the deliberate destruction of statues, Mt Vernon, Monticello, University of Virginia, and/or renaming other objects named after certain folks living at that time and/or possessing an opinion counter to what some people in the modern world think will erase the events leading up to the war, the war itself, and post war life ... you are terribly mistaken.

Likewise, if you honestly believe,
my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start building shrines that celebrate our unity instead

you are also seriously mistaken.  

Not sure what "unity" you refer but the only unity existing in the United States at present is the concerted effort by the Socialists to tear down this once great country and create a Socialist welfare state.

Just in case you are referring to "unity" of the races you are again terribly wrong ... it will just get worse.  Rest assured with both of us sitting quietly in our homes minding our own business there will be others to carry the torch of racial disharmony possibly to the point of another civil war.

Surely you must have an opinion on the sides and outcome of the Civil War. It seems to me that it would be un-American not to.

It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

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Post  Clicker Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:09 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

Lets see, not wanting to forget our past. You mean not forgetting just revising it to fit a more likable version for the Libs.  As for not celebrating those who took up arms, I suggest that what we are seeing from the alt/left is just exactly that.  In this one instance the supremacy groups were too.  If you look at the history of riots and clashes in the last 5 yrs you'll see that the antifa groups have dominated  the violence going away. Another glaring issue is that the antifa groups target the supremists. They came to cause a riot, they came armed and the fact that the supremists are also armed is a simple response to having been attacked by an armed mob with no protection provided by local law enforcement. I do not agree with them but they have a right to demonstrate peacefully and as long as they do they have the right be protected from armed attacks from the alt/left.
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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:20 pm

Clicker wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

Lets see, not wanting to forget our past. You mean not forgetting just revising it to fit a more likable version for the Libs.  As for not celebrating those who took up arms, I suggest that what we are seeing from the alt/left is just exactly that.  In this one instance the supremacy groups were too.  If you look at the history of riots and clashes in the last 5 yrs you'll see that the antifa groups have dominated  the violence going away.  Another glaring issue is that the antifa groups target the supremists.  They came to cause a riot, they came armed and the fact that the supremists are also armed is a simple response to having been attacked by an armed mob with no protection provided by local law enforcement.  I do not agree with them but they have a right to demonstrate peacefully and as long as they do they have the right be protected from armed attacks from the alt/left.

How does removing a statue revise history?

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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:24 pm

Clicker wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

Lets see, not wanting to forget our past. You mean not forgetting just revising it to fit a more likable version for the Libs.  As for not celebrating those who took up arms, I suggest that what we are seeing from the alt/left is just exactly that.  In this one instance the supremacy groups were too.  If you look at the history of riots and clashes in the last 5 yrs you'll see that the antifa groups have dominated  the violence going away.  Another glaring issue is that the antifa groups target the supremists.  They came to cause a riot, they came armed and the fact that the supremists are also armed is a simple response to having been attacked by an armed mob with no protection provided by local law enforcement.  I do not agree with them but they have a right to demonstrate peacefully and as long as they do they have the right be protected from armed attacks from the alt/left.

O'really?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year/

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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:30 pm

Clicker wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

Lets see, not wanting to forget our past. You mean not forgetting just revising it to fit a more likable version for the Libs.  As for not celebrating those who took up arms, I suggest that what we are seeing from the alt/left is just exactly that.  In this one instance the supremacy groups were too.  If you look at the history of riots and clashes in the last 5 yrs you'll see that the antifa groups have dominated  the violence going away.  Another glaring issue is that the antifa groups target the supremists.  They came to cause a riot, they came armed and the fact that the supremists are also armed is a simple response to having been attacked by an armed mob with no protection provided by local law enforcement.  I do not agree with them but they have a right to demonstrate peacefully and as long as they do they have the right be protected from armed attacks from the alt/left.

If you're going to make that accusation, I'd like to see a list of weapons possessed by each side along with a timeline of what was done and said by both sides. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

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Post  Jammer Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:40 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

Lets see, not wanting to forget our past. You mean not forgetting just revising it to fit a more likable version for the Libs.  As for not celebrating those who took up arms, I suggest that what we are seeing from the alt/left is just exactly that.  In this one instance the supremacy groups were too.  If you look at the history of riots and clashes in the last 5 yrs you'll see that the antifa groups have dominated  the violence going away.  Another glaring issue is that the antifa groups target the supremists.  They came to cause a riot, they came armed and the fact that the supremists are also armed is a simple response to having been attacked by an armed mob with no protection provided by local law enforcement.  I do not agree with them but they have a right to demonstrate peacefully and as long as they do they have the right be protected from armed attacks from the alt/left.

If you're going to make that accusation, I'd like to see a list of weapons possessed by each side along with a timeline of what was done and said by both sides. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.


Up your ass Jackoff.  Nobody is going to fall for your stupid head fake and waste any time on your bullshit wild goose chase deflections.
 
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE.
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Post  Jammer Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:45 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!


But what does it mean to you?  Should the South have just been allowed to secede? Do you agree with the outcome? Who would you have fought for? Jammer? How about you? Any thoughts?



The Civil War was a horrendous example of what happens when you compromise.  In 1787, our CONSERVATIVE Founding Fathers worked very hard to end slavery when they drafted our Constitution.  However, The LIBERAL demonrats in the South threatened to not remain a part of the new country under a Constitution that prohibited slavery.

In order to ensure that all 13 states would sign the new Constitution, our CONSERVATIVE Founders compromise with the liberal jackasses in the South and gave them a 20-year period to end slavery.  The LYING LIBERALS told them that they needed that much time to put an end to slavery without destroying their economy.  The CONSERVATIVES even tried to build in some safeguards by getting the 3/5’s clause in the Constitution to minimize the political strength of the Southern States during the ensuing time before slavery was to end.

However, like all lying liberals the assholes demonrats failed to end slavery and instead they seceded from the Union when the CONSERVATIVES led by Republican President Abraham Lincoln sought a final end to slavery.

The consequences of liberal principles and the stupidity to compromise with the LYING LIBERALS led to the deadliest war in the history of our country.  It should serve as an example of why we need to end liberalism once and for all in this country.
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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:52 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!


But what does it mean to you?  Should the South have just been allowed to secede? Do you agree with the outcome? Who would you have fought for? Jammer? How about you? Any thoughts?



The Civil War was a horrendous example of what happens when you compromise.  In 1787, our CONSERVATIVE Founding Fathers worked very hard to end slavery when they drafted our Constitution.  However, The LIBERAL demonrats in the South threatened to not remain a part of the new country under a Constitution that prohibited slavery.

In order to ensure that all 13 states would sign the new Constitution, our CONSERVATIVE Founders compromise with the liberal jackasses in the South and gave them a 20-year period to end slavery.  The LYING LIBERALS told them that they needed that much time to put an end to slavery without destroying their economy.  The CONSERVATIVES even tried to build in some safeguards by getting the 3/5’s clause in the Constitution to minimize the political strength of the Southern States during the ensuing time before slavery was to end.

However, like all lying liberals the assholes demonrats failed to end slavery and instead they seceded from the Union when the CONSERVATIVES led by Republican President Abraham Lincoln sought a final end to slavery.

The consequences of liberal principles and the stupidity to compromise with the LYING LIBERALS led to the deadliest war in the history of our country.  It should serve as an example of why we need to end liberalism once and for all in this country.

So who would you have fought for?

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Post  Dr. Evil Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:54 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

Lets see, not wanting to forget our past. You mean not forgetting just revising it to fit a more likable version for the Libs.  As for not celebrating those who took up arms, I suggest that what we are seeing from the alt/left is just exactly that.  In this one instance the supremacy groups were too.  If you look at the history of riots and clashes in the last 5 yrs you'll see that the antifa groups have dominated  the violence going away.  Another glaring issue is that the antifa groups target the supremists.  They came to cause a riot, they came armed and the fact that the supremists are also armed is a simple response to having been attacked by an armed mob with no protection provided by local law enforcement.  I do not agree with them but they have a right to demonstrate peacefully and as long as they do they have the right be protected from armed attacks from the alt/left.

If you're going to make that accusation, I'd like to see a list of weapons possessed by each side along with a timeline of what was done and said by both sides. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.


Up your ass Jackoff.  Nobody is going to fall for your stupid head fake and waste any time on your bullshit wild goose chase deflections.
 
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE.

YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE SHIIT UP.

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Post  Skeptical Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:01 pm

In defense of Dr. Jones AKA Dr. Evil you will have to remember he was eduacated indoctrinated by the liberal established ed-u-mo-cational system and has little to no understanding of the real situation!

The fact that he and the rest of us are living in a momentous time of American history, a time we only read about in World History class during our school years ... we are in the middle of a COUP escapes him completely!
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Post  Skeptical Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:13 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
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Dr. Evil wrote: Because, as I explained, as an American my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start buildung shrines that celebrate our unity instead.

Now, what does the civil war mean to you?

The civil war was a war fought over 150 years ago to determine if this nation was going to remain united or divided ... the same damn fight being fought today!

But what does it mean to you?  Should the South have just been allowed to secede? Do you agree with the outcome? Who would you have fought for? Jammer? How about you? Any thoughts?

Since it happened over 150 years ago it is history and I answered what the Civil War meant to me.
I had no skin in the game, nor did any of my ancestors, having just settled in the Midwest from Germany a couple of years prior to Fort Sumter.  I am not and was not privy to the prevailing attitudes at the time by either the North or the South.

Just in case you think the deliberate destruction of statues, Mt Vernon, Monticello, University of Virginia, and/or renaming other objects named after certain folks living at that time and/or possessing an opinion counter to what some people in the modern world think will erase the events leading up to the war, the war itself, and post war life ... you are terribly mistaken.

Likewise, if you honestly believe,
my life is better knowing that we are working from celebrating the division of our country. We need to start building shrines that celebrate our unity instead

you are also seriously mistaken.  

Not sure what "unity" you refer but the only unity existing in the United States at present is the concerted effort by the Socialists to tear down this once great country and create a Socialist welfare state.

Just in case you are referring to "unity" of the races you are again terribly wrong ... it will just get worse.  Rest assured with both of us sitting quietly in our homes minding our own business there will be others to carry the torch of racial disharmony possibly to the point of another civil war.

Surely you must have an opinion on the sides and outcome of the Civil War. It seems to me that it would be un-American not to.

It's not about wanting to forget our past. It's about not celebrating our divisions. Not celebrating those who took up arms against their own country.

I gave you all I care to give you and more than you are entitled ... so accept it.

I and no other person in this world is in this world to live up (or down) to your standards!
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