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Post  Skeptical on Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:40 pm


Nov. 22, 2017

UNSEALED: Fusion GPS Bank Records Show Russia-Related Payments
 
A federal court unsealed documents in a lawsuit over Fusion GPS’s bank records on Tuesday, revealing new details of payments made last year to the opposition research firm that commissioned the infamous Trump dossier.
The documents also shed new light on requests made by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence about payments that Fusion GPS made to journalists.

The records were unsealed in response to a ruling made last week by Richard Leon, a federal judge in the district court in Washington, D.C.

The bank documents list 112 transactions involving Fusion GPS.

Most are redacted, save for transactions between two law firms that the oppo firm worked with last year on two Russia-related projects.

Perkins Coie, the law firm that represented the Clinton campaign and DNC, paid Fusion a total of $1,024,408 between May 24, 2016 and Dec. 28, 2016, the records show.

The largest payment was made just before the election. Perkins Coie made a $365,275 payment to Fusion GPS on Oct. 28, 2016, according to the records.

A payment made to Fusion in late-December is later than previously thought.

The transaction list does not show payments that Fusion made to Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier. The firm reportedly paid Steele a total of $168,000 for his work, which lasted from June 2016 until the election.



The records show that Fusion was also paid $523,651 by the law firm BakerHostetler between March 7, 2016 and Oct. 31, 2016.

Fusion worked for BakerHostetler to investigate Bill Browder, a London-based banker who helped push through the Magnitsky Act, a sanctions law vehemently opposed by the Kremlin.

BakerHostetler represented Prevezon Holdings and its owner, a Russian businessman named Denis Katsyv.

Katsyv and Prevezon sought to limit the impact of the Magnitsky sanctions.

Glenn Simpson, a former Wall Street Journal reporter and Fusion GPS founding partner, compiled the research for the anti-Browder project. He worked closely with Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who also showed up at the infamous Trump Tower meeting held on June 9, 2016.

Simpson’s research ended up in the Trump Tower meeting in the form of a four-page memo carried by Veselnitskaya. She also shared Simpson’s work with Yuri Chaika, the prosecutor general of Russia.

Simpson told the House Intelligence Committee earlier this week that he did not know that Veselnitskaya provided the Browder information to Chaika or to Donald Trump Jr., the Trump campaign’s point-man in the Trump Tower meeting.

Simpson testified that he did not know that Veselnitskaya had visited Trump Tower until it was reported in the press earlier this year.

The unsealed documents also reveal details of the House committee’s requests for records related to Fusion’s payments to journalists.

The document shows that the committee sought records related to “five Fusion payments to research and Russia expert [name redacted], and production of three additional payments.”

The committee also seeks records “related to Fusion’s payments to journalists who have reported on Russia issues relevant to its investigation.”

In a memo filed Tuesday, lawyers for the House panel said they are seeking transactions related to nine payments made to “three individual journalists…each of whom have reported on and/or been quoted in articles regarding topics related to the Committee’s investigation, some of which were published as recently as October 2017.”

The names of the journalists are redacted in the filing.

It is not clear from the requests whether Fusion GPS paid active journalists for their work. The firm is known to employ a stable of former reporters. Simpson and his two founding partners, Peter Fritsch and Thomas Catan, worked together at The Wall Street Journal.

The unsealed filings show that Fusion argued against releasing records related to payments to journalists.

In a Nov. 3 declaration, Fritsch argued that “transactions between Fusion GPS and certain journalists…are not pertinent to work related to Russia or Donald Trump.”

And in a Nov. 2 email to the Intel committee’s legal team, Levy argued that “records related to payments to the journalists and ‘individuals’ are protected by the First Amendment and confidentiality, and they are not pertinent.”

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Post  Clicker on Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:00 pm

It fell apart a long time ago. The loony lefties, who don't actually have the mental capacity to understand any of this, will simply wait for their Soros funded sites to tell them what to think.
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Re: But,Trump was the one who colluded with Russia, right?..The narrative is falling apart

Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:08 am

Skeptical wrote:
Nov. 22, 2017

UNSEALED: Fusion GPS Bank Records Show Russia-Related Payments
 
A federal court unsealed documents in a lawsuit over Fusion GPS’s bank records on Tuesday, revealing new details of payments made last year to the opposition research firm that commissioned the infamous Trump dossier.
The documents also shed new light on requests made by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence about payments that Fusion GPS made to journalists.

The records were unsealed in response to a ruling made last week by Richard Leon, a federal judge in the district court in Washington, D.C.

The bank documents list 112 transactions involving Fusion GPS.

Most are redacted, save for transactions between two law firms that the oppo firm worked with last year on two Russia-related projects.

Perkins Coie, the law firm that represented the Clinton campaign and DNC, paid Fusion a total of $1,024,408 between May 24, 2016 and Dec. 28, 2016, the records show.

The largest payment was made just before the election. Perkins Coie made a $365,275 payment to Fusion GPS on Oct. 28, 2016, according to the records.

A payment made to Fusion in late-December is later than previously thought.

The transaction list does not show payments that Fusion made to Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier. The firm reportedly paid Steele a total of $168,000 for his work, which lasted from June 2016 until the election.



The records show that Fusion was also paid $523,651 by the law firm BakerHostetler between March 7, 2016 and Oct. 31, 2016.

Fusion worked for BakerHostetler to investigate Bill Browder, a London-based banker who helped push through the Magnitsky Act, a sanctions law vehemently opposed by the Kremlin.

BakerHostetler represented Prevezon Holdings and its owner, a Russian businessman named Denis Katsyv.

Katsyv and Prevezon sought to limit the impact of the Magnitsky sanctions.

Glenn Simpson, a former Wall Street Journal reporter and Fusion GPS founding partner, compiled the research for the anti-Browder project. He worked closely with Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who also showed up at the infamous Trump Tower meeting held on June 9, 2016.

Simpson’s research ended up in the Trump Tower meeting in the form of a four-page memo carried by Veselnitskaya. She also shared Simpson’s work with Yuri Chaika, the prosecutor general of Russia.

Simpson told the House Intelligence Committee earlier this week that he did not know that Veselnitskaya provided the Browder information to Chaika or to Donald Trump Jr., the Trump campaign’s point-man in the Trump Tower meeting.

Simpson testified that he did not know that Veselnitskaya had visited Trump Tower until it was reported in the press earlier this year.

The unsealed documents also reveal details of the House committee’s requests for records related to Fusion’s payments to journalists.

The document shows that the committee sought records related to “five Fusion payments to research and Russia expert [name redacted], and production of three additional payments.”

The committee also seeks records “related to Fusion’s payments to journalists who have reported on Russia issues relevant to its investigation.”

In a memo filed Tuesday, lawyers for the House panel said they are seeking transactions related to nine payments made to “three individual journalists…each of whom have reported on and/or been quoted in articles regarding topics related to the Committee’s investigation, some of which were published as recently as October 2017.”

The names of the journalists are redacted in the filing.

It is not clear from the requests whether Fusion GPS paid active journalists for their work. The firm is known to employ a stable of former reporters. Simpson and his two founding partners, Peter Fritsch and Thomas Catan, worked together at The Wall Street Journal.

The unsealed filings show that Fusion argued against releasing records related to payments to journalists.

In a Nov. 3 declaration, Fritsch argued that “transactions between Fusion GPS and certain journalists…are not pertinent to work related to Russia or Donald Trump.”

And in a Nov. 2 email to the Intel committee’s legal team, Levy argued that “records related to payments to the journalists and ‘individuals’ are protected by the First Amendment and confidentiality, and they are not pertinent.”

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I've read through the quoted part of the article three times now. What law(s) are they/you accusing her of breaking? I literally see nothing there. Who are you accusung her of colluding with? And to what cause?

Collusion definition:

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

What's the conspiracy? Who did she try to cheat or deceive? This is starting to remind me of those abortion tapes. The further they drug on the more they proved that PP had done nothing wrong. I'd say you should quit while you are ahead.

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Post  Clicker on Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:50 am

Dr. Evil wrote:
What's the conspiracy? Who did she try to cheat or deceive? This is starting to remind me of those abortion tapes. The further they drug on the more they proved that PP had done nothing wrong. I'd say you should quit while you are ahead.

Gee whizikiers!!! Sounds like Trump. Quit? Sure as soon as you and the rabid liberal rabble stop screeching Russia every 30 seconds.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:10 am

Clicker wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
What's the conspiracy? Who did she try to cheat or deceive? This is starting to remind me of those abortion tapes. The further they drug on the more they proved that PP had done nothing wrong. I'd say you should quit while you are ahead.

Gee whizikiers!!!  Sounds like Trump. Quit? Sure as soon as you and the rabid liberal rabble stop screeching Russia every 30 seconds.

Drumpf COLLUDED with a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT to try to SWAY THE ELECTION. The interference has ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. Members of Drumpf's team have ALREADY RESIGNED/BEEN INDICTED in connection to this investigation.

HRC hired a LAWYER who in turn hired a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR and apparently a couple JOURNALISTS to look into HER HACKER and the BENEFICIARY OF HER HACKING. Not to mention the fact that the FBI deemed it necessary to TAKE OVER the investigation and PAID THESE CONTACTS finish the work that A REPUBLICAN presidential candidate had actually started.

These two things are not comparable.

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Post  Clicker on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:22 am

Dr. Evil wrote:
Drumpf COLLUDED with a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT to try to SWAY THE ELECTION. The interference has ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. Members of Drumpf's team have ALREADY RESIGNED/BEEN INDICTED in connection to this investigation.

HRC hired a LAWYER who in turn hired a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR and apparently a couple JOURNALISTS to look into HER HACKER and the BENEFICIARY OF HER HACKING. Not to mention the fact that the FBI deemed it necessary to TAKE OVER the investigation and PAID THESE CONTACTS finish the work that A REPUBLICAN presidential candidate had actually started.

These two things are not comparable.

Your definition of proven is in doubt. We'll see how the wriggling Hillery gets tangled more securely in this one. This is beginning to resemble a game of twister. Her contortions are getting a bit strenuous.
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Post  Skeptical on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:34 am

Dr. Evil wrote: Drumpf COLLUDED with a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT to try to SWAY THE ELECTION. The interference has ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. Members of Drumpf's team have ALREADY RESIGNED/BEEN INDICTED in connection to this investigation.

HRC hired a LAWYER who in turn hired a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR and apparently a couple JOURNALISTS to look into HER HACKER and the BENEFICIARY OF HER HACKING. Not to mention the fact that the FBI deemed it necessary to TAKE OVER the investigation and PAID THESE CONTACTS finish the work that A REPUBLICAN presidential candidate had actually started.

These two things are not comparable.


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Trump colluded with the RUSSIANS because I want it to be true!

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Post  Skeptical on Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:10 am


It just keeps on coming back to bite them

Fusion GPS Paid Journalists, Received Money From DNC, Russia to Attack Pres. Trump



November 22, 2017

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Court filings reveal both the DNC and Russian interests paid Fusion GPS to run anti-Trump stories through the mainstream media.

One America’s Kristian Rouz has more.

http://www.oann.com/fusion-gps-paid-journalists-received-money-from-dnc-russia-to-attack-pres-trump/


Any wagers if Mueller will investigate this?
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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:12 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: Drumpf COLLUDED with a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT to try to SWAY THE ELECTION. The interference has ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. Members of Drumpf's team have ALREADY RESIGNED/BEEN INDICTED in connection to this investigation.

HRC hired a LAWYER who in turn hired a PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR and apparently a couple JOURNALISTS to look into HER HACKER and the BENEFICIARY OF HER HACKING. Not to mention the fact that the FBI deemed it necessary to TAKE OVER the investigation and PAID THESE CONTACTS finish the work that A REPUBLICAN presidential candidate had actually started.

These two things are not comparable.


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There's no 'want' to it. It's a proven fact. We know Russia helped Drumpf get elected. We know that members of Drumpf's team met with Russians during the election. Indisputable facts.

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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:35 pm

Skeptical wrote:
It just keeps on coming back to bite them


Fusion GPS Paid Journalists, Received Money From DNC, Russia to Attack Pres. Trump



November 22, 2017

OAN Newsroom

Court filings reveal both the DNC and Russian interests paid Fusion GPS to run anti-Trump stories through the mainstream media.

One America’s Kristian Rouz has more.

http://www.oann.com/fusion-gps-paid-journalists-received-money-from-dnc-russia-to-attack-pres-trump/


Any wagers if Mueller will investigate this?

If it's relevant, or true, why wouldn't he? Do you think he's not being fair in his investigation?

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Post  Clicker on Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:07 pm

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There's no 'want' to it. It's a proven fact. We know Russia helped Drumpf get elected. We know that members of Drumpf's team met with Russians during the election. Indisputable facts.

You can only guess what you don't know. If it were proven fact the investigation wouldn't be stalled where it is, trying to buy little fish to try and get something on the big ones.  It's an old process. Even thes the word of an informant trying to cut a deal isn't fact it's still an allegation. Those who beleive otherwise are simply living vicariously in the pages of the Natl inquirer.
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Post  Skeptical on Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:44 pm



Dr. Evil wrote:There's no 'want' to it. It's a proven fact. We know Russia helped Drumpf get elected. We know that members of Drumpf's team met with Russians during the election. Indisputable facts.

FYI, I did a search using, "who has been proven to have colluded with the Russians to alter the election" and there was not one person mentioned that proof exists to have colluded with the Russians by "Indisputable facts".

Like the old saying, "if you got it, flaunt it", so put the name or names your "Indisputable facts" prove colluded with the Russians to effect the outcome of the election before this forum.

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Post  Skeptical on Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:59 pm



This is what the "Russian Collusion" investigation is based on !!

Presidential results

Trump ... 306 Electoral Votes, Clinton ... 232 Electoral Votes


270 Electoral Votes required to win

Donald J. Trump won, Hillary R. Clinton lost!
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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:28 pm

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/fbi-head-confirms-russia-election-probe-says-moscow-backed-trump-idUSKBN16R077

U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia tried to help Trump by hacking leading Democrats.

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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:33 pm

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:There's no 'want' to it. It's a proven fact. We know Russia helped Drumpf get elected. We know that members of Drumpf's team met with Russians during the election. Indisputable facts.

FYI, I did a search using, "who has been proven to have colluded with the Russians to alter the election" and there was not one person mentioned that proof exists to have colluded with the Russians by "Indisputable facts".

Like the old saying, "if you got it, flaunt it", so put the name or names your "Indisputable facts" prove colluded with the Russians to effect the outcome of the election before this forum.

Until then

Trump colluded with the RUSSIANS because I want it to be true!

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I never said that.

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Post  Darth Cheney on Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:48 pm

I am utterly shocked any person could be this stupid...even for a democrat.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:27 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:I am utterly shocked any person could be this stupid...even for a democrat.

Is there something I posted that you disagree with?

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Post  Skeptical on Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:02 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/fbi-head-confirms-russia-election-probe-says-moscow-backed-trump-idUSKBN16R077

U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia tried to help Trump by hacking leading Democrats.

How did this hacking and possible stealing info from the leading Democrats /DNC help Trump?
What valuable information was stolen and given to Trump?

May I remind you the only reason for the so called Russian investigation is


Presidential results

Trump ... 306 Electoral Votes, Clinton ... 232 Electoral Votes


270 Electoral Votes required to win

Donald J. Trump won, Hillary R. Clinton lost!
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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:59 am

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/fbi-head-confirms-russia-election-probe-says-moscow-backed-trump-idUSKBN16R077

U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia tried to help Trump by hacking leading Democrats.

How did this hacking and stealing info from the DNC help Trump?
What valuable information was stolen and given to Trump?

The hacked emails showing a supposed "rigging" of the Democratic primary, against somebody that wasn't even a Democrat, was probably the #1 thing. This kept Bernie supporters from voting for HRC. The Russians also waged a huge misinformation war agsinst HRC on social media to discredit her. Especially in areas of tough races.

May I remind you the only reason for the so called Russian investigation is


Presidential results

Trump ... 306 Electoral Votes, Clinton ... 232 Electoral Votes


270 Electoral Votes required to win

Donald J. Trump won, Hillary R. Clinton lost!

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Even worse it's disgustingly unpatriotic. This has nothing to do with the outcome of the election. This has to do with another country swaying our democratic process. People died for our right to vote in a fair election. Quit disrespecting them.


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Post  Skeptical on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:25 am

Dr. Evil wrote:  The hacked emails showing a supposed "rigging" of the Democratic primary, against somebody that wasn't even a Democrat, was probably the #1 thing. This kept Bernie supporters from voting for HRC. The Russians also waged a huge misinformation war agsinst HRC on social media to discredit her. Especially in areas of tough races.

Thanks for pointing out how the internal rigging of the Democratic primaries by the DNC even reported by the left leaning alphabet networks proving how crooked and corrupt Hillary and her campaign was is what really affected the Presidential election results.

As for the rest of your "TRUMP RUSSIAN COLLUSION" somebody by the moniker of Arabian said it bet

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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:47 am

The longer you guys deny what's going on here, the more satisfying it will be to watch the inevitable happen. For all the shiit Republicans put HRC through over the past several years in their many congressional witch hunts, for all the shiit you guys have talked about her and Obama being crooked, for all the BS that Democrats/Independents/RINOs have had to endure for not being clinically insane...... it comes down to this. People around your chosen leader dropping like flies, no....like toy soldiers. I hope that they march right into the Oval Office, arrest Drumpf like the traitor he is, and walk him out for the country to see that there is no room in the White House for his brand of politics, or his brand of American.

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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:49 am

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:  The hacked emails showing a supposed "rigging" of the Democratic primary, against somebody that wasn't even a Democrat, was probably the #1 thing. This kept Bernie supporters from voting for HRC. The Russians also waged a huge misinformation war agsinst HRC on social media to discredit her. Especially in areas of tough races.

Thanks for pointing out how the internal rigging of the Democratic primaries by the DNC even reported by the left leaning alphabet networks proving how crooked and corrupt Hillary and her campaign was is what really affected the Presidential election results.

As for the rest of your "TRUMP RUSSIAN COLLUSION" somebody by the moniker of Arabian said it bet

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not, is a fool ... shun him


Bernie wasn't a Democrat.

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