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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:37 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:Darth - waaaayyyy off topic. Didn't answer the question. Do you approve of that portion, or not?

Gomezz - Lame attempts at diversions.
I take it that you don't approve the "military service path to citizenship" portion of the bill, then. Which of the other "paths to citizenship" in the Senate Bill would you throw out, and which do you think have merit?

 Already answered with a single sentence. Don't know how to get to your level any better.
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:16 pm

Question was: "What do either of you think of the "military service path to citizenship" portion of the bill?"

Was this your answer to that: "Obama feels the wet Latinos are expendable and will send them to battle jihadist around the world in a perpetual war of his choosing." ?

Please clarify - do you approve of that portion of the bill (military path to citizenship)? Sorry, but your answer was not clear to me. (Yes or No would be fine)
What other parts of the passed Senate bill would you keep, or what would you throw out?
IMO - the bill is a huge improvement over amnesty. Do you disagree?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:38 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:Question was: "What do either of you think of the "military service path to citizenship" portion of the bill?"

Was this your answer to that: "Obama feels the wet Latinos are expendable and will send them to battle jihadist around the world in a perpetual war of his choosing." ?

Please clarify - do you approve of that portion of the bill (military path to citizenship)? Sorry, but your answer was not clear to me. (Yes or No would be fine)
What other parts of the passed Senate bill would you keep, or what would you throw out?
IMO - the bill is a huge improvement over amnesty. Do you disagree?

 A few posts up:

"That currently exists DA."
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:44 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Question was: "What do either of you think of the "military service path to citizenship" portion of the bill?"

Was this your answer to that: "Obama feels the wet Latinos are expendable and will send them to battle jihadist around the world in a perpetual war of his choosing." ?

Please clarify - do you approve of that portion of the bill (military path to citizenship)? Sorry, but your answer was not clear to me. (Yes or No would be fine)
What other parts of the passed Senate bill would you keep, or what would you throw out?
IMO - the bill is a huge improvement over amnesty. Do you disagree?

 A few posts up:

"That currently exists DA."

Yes. Do you approve of expanding it as included in the Bill recently passed by the Senate?
Also: IMO - the bill is a huge improvement over amnesty. Do you disagree?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:42 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Question was: "What do either of you think of the "military service path to citizenship" portion of the bill?"

Was this your answer to that: "Obama feels the wet Latinos are expendable and will send them to battle jihadist around the world in a perpetual war of his choosing." ?

Please clarify - do you approve of that portion of the bill (military path to citizenship)? Sorry, but your answer was not clear to me. (Yes or No would be fine)
What other parts of the passed Senate bill would you keep, or what would you throw out?
IMO - the bill is a huge improvement over amnesty. Do you disagree?

 A few posts up:

"That currently exists DA."

Yes. Do you approve of expanding it as included in the Bill recently passed by the Senate?
Also: IMO - the bill is a huge improvement over amnesty. Do you disagree?

Expanding it...wth are you talking about...it already exists. How do you expand it???
Huge improvement over amnesty...it is amnesty and only a fool would believe otherwise.

I see the problem now. Conversing with you is a real circle jerk.
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:50 pm

Darth - Don't you think that the various "paths to citizenship" contained in this bill, are a big improvement over the "blanket amnesty" granted in the 80's?

As a nation, we really have let ourselves get in too deep. We are now looking at 2nd (and even 3rd) generations of past illegals. Your suggestions?
The "Bush wall" was a political pipe-dream. Perhaps electronic surveillance has advanced enough now, there is hope for that. But, what about those born here, and those who have grown children born here?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:06 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:Darth - Don't you think that the various "paths to citizenship" contained in this bill, are a big improvement over the "blanket amnesty" granted in the 80's?

As a nation, we really have let ourselves get in too deep. We are now looking at 2nd (and even 3rd) generations of past illegals. Your suggestions?
The "Bush wall" was a political pipe-dream. Perhaps electronic surveillance has advanced enough now, there is hope for that. But, what about those born here, and those who have grown children born here?

 My suggestion is to follow the existing laws.  Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally.  If walls don't work then explain our prisons or the Berlin Wall. Personally, I would bury land mines along the border with warning signs...problem solved. We have immigration laws and they work. The problem is politicians refusing to enforce our existing laws. What makes you think they won't ignore any new laws?
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:36 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Darth - Don't you think that the various "paths to citizenship" contained in this bill, are a big improvement over the "blanket amnesty" granted in the 80's?

As a nation, we really have let ourselves get in too deep. We are now looking at 2nd (and even 3rd) generations of past illegals. Your suggestions?
The "Bush wall" was a political pipe-dream. Perhaps electronic surveillance has advanced enough now, there is hope for that. But, what about those born here, and those who have grown children born here?

 My suggestion is to follow the existing laws.  Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally.  If walls don't work then explain our prisons or the Berlin Wall. Personally, I would bury land mines along the border with warning signs...problem solved. We have immigration laws and they work. The problem is politicians refusing to enforce our existing laws. What makes you think they won't ignore any new laws?

"Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally"
Do you have a cost estimate on that? (remember that I am a fiscal conservative).

BTW - Wouldn't the "spawn" be legal via birth?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:55 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Darth - Don't you think that the various "paths to citizenship" contained in this bill, are a big improvement over the "blanket amnesty" granted in the 80's?

As a nation, we really have let ourselves get in too deep. We are now looking at 2nd (and even 3rd) generations of past illegals. Your suggestions?
The "Bush wall" was a political pipe-dream. Perhaps electronic surveillance has advanced enough now, there is hope for that. But, what about those born here, and those who have grown children born here?

 My suggestion is to follow the existing laws.  Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally.  If walls don't work then explain our prisons or the Berlin Wall. Personally, I would bury land mines along the border with warning signs...problem solved. We have immigration laws and they work. The problem is politicians refusing to enforce our existing laws. What makes you think they won't ignore any new laws?

"Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally"
Do you have a cost estimate on that? (remember that I am a fiscal conservative).

BTW - Wouldn't the "spawn" be legal via birth?

Here you go Darth - no need to start a new one. Just continue here.

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Freedom Forever on Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:20 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Darth - Don't you think that the various "paths to citizenship" contained in this bill, are a big improvement over the "blanket amnesty" granted in the 80's?

As a nation, we really have let ourselves get in too deep. We are now looking at 2nd (and even 3rd) generations of past illegals. Your suggestions?
The "Bush wall" was a political pipe-dream. Perhaps electronic surveillance has advanced enough now, there is hope for that. But, what about those born here, and those who have grown children born here?

 My suggestion is to follow the existing laws.  Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally.  If walls don't work then explain our prisons or the Berlin Wall. Personally, I would bury land mines along the border with warning signs...problem solved. We have immigration laws and they work. The problem is politicians refusing to enforce our existing laws. What makes you think they won't ignore any new laws?

"Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally"
Do you have a cost estimate on that? (remember that I am a fiscal conservative).

BTW - Wouldn't the "spawn" be legal via birth?

Here you go Darth - no need to start a new one. Just continue here.

How do you feel about employing undocumented democrats in sun flower fields, in order to harvest a crop that could be turned into ethanol. We could then burn the ethanol in tanks and fight our next war. With illegal tank commanders.  Ya know kill two birds with one stone.  Thoughts?  Whoa I shouldn't have drank all that cough   syrup! drunken
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:37 pm

Freedom Forever wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Darth - Don't you think that the various "paths to citizenship" contained in this bill, are a big improvement over the "blanket amnesty" granted in the 80's?

As a nation, we really have let ourselves get in too deep. We are now looking at 2nd (and even 3rd) generations of past illegals. Your suggestions?
The "Bush wall" was a political pipe-dream. Perhaps electronic surveillance has advanced enough now, there is hope for that. But, what about those born here, and those who have grown children born here?

 My suggestion is to follow the existing laws.  Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally.  If walls don't work then explain our prisons or the Berlin Wall. Personally, I would bury land mines along the border with warning signs...problem solved. We have immigration laws and they work. The problem is politicians refusing to enforce our existing laws. What makes you think they won't ignore any new laws?

"Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally"
Do you have a cost estimate on that? (remember that I am a fiscal conservative).

BTW - Wouldn't the "spawn" be legal via birth?

Here you go Darth - no need to start a new one. Just continue here.

How do you feel about employing undocumented democrats in sun flower fields, in order to harvest a crop that could be turned into ethanol. We could then burn the ethanol in tanks and fight our next war. With illegal tank commanders.  Ya know kill two birds with one stone.  Thoughts?  Whoa I shouldn't have drank all that cough   syrup!  drunken

Mix it with Tea and skittles and whoop some Asssssssssss.
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:10 pm

If Darth & Freedom are done with the playground antics:
Back to the discussion:

Darth Cheney wrote:"How many immigration bills have you seen in these last decades? Maybe you could highlight some so we can also compare them to the bill before the House."

Since it is off-topic, I'll just give you one recent one (besides the obvious "Dream Act".): Perhaps you would like to start a thread on immigration reform?

"WASHINGTON, June 28, 2007 — President Bush’s effort to overhaul the nation’s immigration policy, a cornerstone of his domestic agenda, collapsed in the Senate today, with little hope that it can be revived before Mr. Bush leaves office in January 2009.
The bill called for the biggest changes to immigration law in more than 20 years, offering legal status to millions of illegal immigrants " - - - -"The vote followed an outpouring of criticism from conservatives and others who decried it as a form of amnesty for lawbreakers. The outcome was a bitter disappointment for Mr. Bush "

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"Round up everybody that came here illegally and deport them and any spawn they dropped while here illegally" by Darth

Do you have a cost estimate on that? (remember that I am a fiscal conservative).
BTW - Wouldn't the "spawn" be legal via birth?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:12 pm

LOL...it is like listening to Rain Man.

As Bugs Bunny says: "What a Maroon".
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Post  RedWhiteBlue on Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:LOL...it is like listening to Rain Man.

As Bugs Bunny says: "What a Maroon".

No rebuttal at all? Nothing to add? Retract? Discuss further?
OK - but why use personal insults, then? Doing so, makes you appear simple and childish.

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Are babies born in this country legal citizens, regardless of their parents' status?
Anybody?

Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

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Post  Freedom Forever on Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:06 am

RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:LOL...it is like listening to Rain Man.

As Bugs Bunny says: "What a Maroon".

No rebuttal at all? Nothing to add? Retract? Discuss further?
OK - but why use personal insults, then? Doing so, makes you appear simple and childish.

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Are babies born in this country legal citizens, regardless of their parents' status?
Anybody?

Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

Why don't you google it for us. You google humping genius.  
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Post  Skeptical on Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:27 pm

Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

Between the massive NSA spying going on and the cops photographing license plates it is entirely possible the location of the illegals are known.

Also possible there may be enough legal citizen owner/operators of 18 wheelers who would volunteer time and transport service to escort said illegals back across the nearest border!
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Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:42 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

Between the massive NSA spying going on and the cops photographing license plates it is entirely possible the location of the illegals are known.

Also possible there may be enough legal citizen owner/operators of 18 wheelers who would volunteer time and transport service to escort said illegals back across the nearest border!

Maybe some of the same truckers who brought them over here in the first place?

Do you think that they will all willingly line up and board the trucks? Even the children? Even the parents with small children here?

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Post  Freedom Forever on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:00 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:LOL...it is like listening to Rain Man.

As Bugs Bunny says: "What a Maroon".

No rebuttal at all? Nothing to add? Retract? Discuss further?
OK - but why use personal insults, then? Doing so, makes you appear simple and childish.

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Are babies born in this country legal citizens, regardless of their parents' status?
Anybody?   irrelevant

Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

Why don't you tell us what the cost will be?   Answer; no one knows.  Can you tell us what the cost of continuing this insanity?  If you can't then you have been discredited by my crafty questioning. (See how I can use your sh|t techniques too?)

SOS different thread. You are just not as smart as you have convinced yourself you are. There is no way anyone is taking you seriously.  D.A.H.  Get a real job and start paying down your student loans.

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Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:22 pm

Freedom - what is your suggestion for the immigration issue?
Or don't you think it's a problem?

Do you think there will be a negative economic result when those who employ the illegals, will have to deal with minimum wage and benefits for legit employees?
Could there possibly be a positive impact, if the illegals-made legal immigrants start contributing to the income tax coffers?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  Darth Cheney on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:32 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

Between the massive NSA spying going on and the cops photographing license plates it is entirely possible the location of the illegals are known.

Also possible there may be enough legal citizen owner/operators of 18 wheelers who would volunteer time and transport service to escort said illegals back across the nearest border!

Maybe some of the same truckers who brought them over here in the first place?

Do you think that they will all willingly line up and board the trucks? Even the children? Even the parents with small children here?

 That's what guns and bullets are for...making people do stuff they would rather not.
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Post  Darth Cheney on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:37 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:Freedom - what is your suggestion for the immigration issue?
Or don't you think it's a problem?

Do you think there will be a negative economic result when those who employ the illegals, will have to deal with minimum wage and benefits for legit employees?
Could there possibly be a positive impact, if the illegals-made legal immigrants start contributing to the income tax coffers?

 Maybe you could show me where lettuce pickers make enough income to actually have to pay income taxes. Instead they receive a check every year from Sugar Daddy democrats for being low paid workers.  Those checks come from people who actually have to pay income taxes and don't get a rebate check back every year.  Forget it...you could never understand.

Yup, having a bunch of uneducated, non-English speaking workers with minimal skills are our answer out of this 17 trillion in debt.  Please tell me you are in grade school, have some documented mental learning disability, or are a liberal voter. Nobody should be this dumb.
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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:49 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Does anybody have a cost estimate of "rounding up & deporting", as Darth suggested?

Between the massive NSA spying going on and the cops photographing license plates it is entirely possible the location of the illegals are known.

Also possible there may be enough legal citizen owner/operators of 18 wheelers who would volunteer time and transport service to escort said illegals back across the nearest border!

Maybe some of the same truckers who brought them over here in the first place?

Do you think that they will all willingly line up and board the trucks? Even the children? Even the parents with small children here?

 That's what guns and bullets are for...making people do stuff they would rather not.

. . . . and the cost of those guns and bullets? The shooters? The coffins?

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Re: What ever happened to this approach to immigration?

Post  RedWhiteBlue on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:00 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:
RedWhiteBlue wrote:Freedom - what is your suggestion for the immigration issue?
Or don't you think it's a problem?

Do you think there will be a negative economic result when those who employ the illegals, will have to deal with minimum wage and benefits for legit employees?
Could there possibly be a positive impact, if the illegals-made legal immigrants start contributing to the income tax coffers?

 Maybe you could show me where lettuce pickers make enough income to actually have to pay income taxes. Instead they receive a check every year from Sugar Daddy democrats for being low paid workers.  Those checks come from people who actually have to pay income taxes and don't get a rebate check back every year.  Forget it...you could never understand.

Yup, having a bunch of uneducated, non-English speaking workers with minimal skills are our answer out of this 17 trillion in debt.  Please tell me you are in grade school, have some documented mental learning disability, or are a liberal voter. Nobody should be this dumb.

Maybe you could show me how these how illegals get this "rebate check" when they don't file tax returns. How does that work?

How much will it hurt the employers' bottom line, when he must pay minimum wage and benefits for this labor? The lettuce still needs picking.

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BTW - Did you miss this fact - been over a year now:
"Tide Turns on Border Crossing
Number of Immigrants Arriving From Mexico Now Equaled by Those Going Home
Net migration from Mexico has plummeted to zero thanks to changing demographic and economic conditions on both sides of the border"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303459004577362211298534158.html

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Post  Freedom Forever on Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:10 pm

RedWhiteBlue wrote:Freedom - what is your suggestion for the immigration issue? ONE MORE TIME; SECURE THE BORDER          
Or don't you think it's a problem?

Do you think there will be a negative economic result when those who employ the illegals, will have to deal with minimum wage and benefits for legit employees?
Could there possibly be a positive impact, if the illegals-made legal immigrants start contributing to the income tax coffers?

Why don't you tell us what the cost will be? Answer; no one knows. Can you tell us what the cost of continuing this insanity? If you can't then you have been discredited by my crafty questioning. (See how I can use your sh|t techniques too?)

SOS different thread. You are just not as smart as you have convinced yourself you are. There is no way anyone is taking you seriously. D.A.H. Get a real job and start paying down your student loans.

     



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