Re: The Hillary Thread

[nightlight88]

The stock market is soaring, unemployment is dropping, and terrorists are dying. Hell yeah, I'd vote for him again!  He was even able to stop Ebola from spreading like a wild fire.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/04/29/the-u-s-will-release-economic-growth-this-morning/


Looks like your "soaring" economy is not flying quite so high.

[BladeRunner]

How can anyone say with a straight face that God has been removed from society? I can count six Christian churches within a four block radius of my house and every hotel room I've ever stayed in had a Bible in it. I think this faux Christian persecution is getting a little too dramatic.

Besides anyone who worries more about other people's relationship with God than their own is part of the problem.

Yeah, that Christian persecution doesn't really exist....("faux")

http://www.christianpost.com/news/sociologists-christianophobia-anti-christian-hostility-infects-powerful-elite-subculture-interview-133227/

In the minds of many of the respondents Christians are ignorant, intolerant and stupid individuals who are unable to think for themselves. The general image they have of Christians is that they are a backward, non-critical thinking, child-like people who do not like science and want to interfere with the lives of everyone else.

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George Yancey
(Photo: George Yancey)
George Yancey, professor of sociology, University of North Texas
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But even worse, they see ordinary Christians as having been manipulated by evil Christian leaders and will vote in whatever way those leaders want. They believe that those leaders are trying to set up a theocracy to force everybody to accept their Christian beliefs. So, for some with Christianophobia, this is a struggle for our society and our ability to move toward a progressive society. Christians are often seen as the great evil force that blocks our society from achieving this progressive paradise.

[Rusty Houser]

Do you want some "evil progressive socialist" teacher teaching your kids about God?

[Rusty Houser]

Besides anyone who worries more about other people's relationship with God than their own is part of the problem.

So, the big liberal know-it-all Christian doesn't believe in evangelism? Apparently you never read the great commission.

What did Jesus tell us about spreading His word to those who don't want to hear it? Did He want us to spread His word to those willing to hear it or did He want us to force it upon those who don't?

[Rusty Houser]

For those who want to trust their children's spiritual training to the public schools, which version do you want to establish as the official religion of the public schools?

[Jammer]

For those who want to trust their children's spiritual training to the public schools, which version do you want to establish as the official religion of the public schools?

You are incredibly dense even for a progressive socialist.  I will repeat myself one more time, perhaps sooner or later a lick of sense will enter your closed mind.

Your comment was so typical of the ignorant progressive liberals who infest this world.  And while you cretins are an affliction that plague the earth today, your slimy ancestors also existed hundreds of years ago.  The Founding Fathers addressed your stupidity then and their words defending their principles still apply today.

The Founders' were not referring to any one particular religion, but the religion of ALL MANKIND.  They believed there are 5 fundamental points that embrace all valid regions and they are:

1.  There exists a Creator who made all things and that we should recognize and worship Him.
2.  The Creator has revealed a moral code of behavior which distinguishes right from wrong.
3.  The Creator holds mankind responsible for the way they treat others.
4.  All of mankind lives beyond this life.
5.  Mankind is judged in the next life for their conduct in this life.

These 5 fundamental points do not address any one single religion, but the religion of all mankind.

So the question is not WHICH RELIGION is the right religion.  The questions is; "Can the government of a free people be maintained without religion"?   And the Founders' belief was that the answer to this question was a resounding NO.  

As such the Founders insisted that morality and religion be taught in the schools of this country.  They emphasized this critical belief in Article 3 of the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 where they said:  "Religion, morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged".

Somehow us conservatives have let you progressive liberal heathens take this wonderful concept given to us by our Founding Fathers and toss it out with the trash.  I continue to firmly believe this country faces no more devastating enemy than you slimy progressive heathens.

[Rusty Houser]

As such the Founders insisted that morality and religion be taught in the schools of this country. They emphasized this critical belief in Article 3 of the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 where they said: "Religion, morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged".

That is an interesting quote, especially in context.

Article III. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. The utmost good faith shall always be observed towards the Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress; but laws founded in justice and humanity, shall from time to time be made for preventing wrongs being done to them, and for preserving peace and friendship with them.

But that isn't exactly how it was carried out, was it? Instead of "encouraging" faith the government outlawed Native religions that held those same "5 fundamental points" and forced them into specific Christian denominations at gunpoint and through some pretty egregious methods including kidnapping, beatings, rape and murder.

[Rusty Houser]

I want our youth to learn Creationism in school.

You do realize that creationism is a doctrine that is not held by all religions and not even all Christian faiths including many of the largest Christian denominations.

Besides, which version of creationism do you want taught? Every religion world wide has their own creation story, should we teach them all or just the version of creationism that you want to establish as the official religion of the public school system?[/quote]

[Jammer]

I want our youth to learn Creationism in school.

You do realize that creationism is a doctrine that is not held by all religions and not even all Christian faiths including many of the largest Christian denominations.

Besides, which version of creationism do you want taught? Every religion world wide has their own creation story, should we teach them all or just the version of creationism that you want to establish as the official religion of the public school system?

[/quote]

Spoken just like an atheist.  So the question is are you an atheist or do you just Google atheist websites to get your talking points?

However, from all of your comments it really is getting difficult to determine which you hate more, America or God.  Sad - really sad.

[Clicker]

On a lighter note, a real truth emerges.
http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/files/2015/04/Hillary-Queen.jpg
As you know, my dear people, the last year for me has been an annus horribilus. The Royal House of Clinton has been tormented by questions about our handling of finances and subjected to tiresome questions about the tragic events in Benghazi–in the furthest regions of our empire. And, sadly, also questions about my Royal e-mails.
Nevertheless, I will not be daunted in my desire and commitment to serve you the people. For the next seventeen months I will be traveling among you as one of you, to listen to your deepest longings and needs. I will be with you in your Wal-Mart and beside you in your Burger Kings. I will drive with you down the busy interstate highways of our land sharing your poverty and needs with you.
How well I remember the days when the Duke of Arkansas and I were impoverished. After we were expelled from our Washington Palace we hardly had two mansions to rub together. We were so poor we had to remove thousands of dollars of china, flatware, carpets and gifts from the Washington Palace just to survive. Now, happily, benefactors from around our empire have given just enough for us to scrape by.
During those difficult times we had to cut back when our daughter was married. We only had three million dollars to spend on her wedding and I remember our hopes as she moved into her $10 million Manhattan apartment that one day she would be able to move on from that humble abode to something more fitting. So as I travel across our land to meet you all, I will be listening and sharing with you. Then when the time for the royal election comes I know you will crown me as your rightful monarch so that we can all live happily ever after.

[Rusty Houser]

Spoken just like an atheist.  So the question is are you an atheist or do you just Google atheist websites to get your talking points?

However, from all of your comments it really is getting difficult to determine which you hate more, America or God.  Sad - really sad.

I've made no secret of my religious beliefs but it seems you find it more convenient to rely on your own imagination. It doesn't matter what I say, you'll believe what you want to believe.

[Rusty Houser]

Article III. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. The utmost good faith shall always be observed towards the Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress; but laws founded in justice and humanity, shall from time to time be made for preventing wrongs being done to them, and for preserving peace and friendship with them.

As an off topic aside:

If the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 is to be considered an enduring and legally binding document it could have some interesting implications. None of the Indian wars were authorized by congress.

[Rusty Houser]

However, from all of your comments it really is getting difficult to determine which you hate more, America or God.  Sad - really sad.

Hmmm, lets see. I want to follow the rulings of the Supreme Court on this issue. You want to ignore those rulings.

I want to follow the Gospels, the words of Jesus Christ and wipe the dust off my feet if someone is unwilling to hear His word. You want to ignore His word and use the might of the government to "compel men to worship God in (a) manner contrary to their conscience"

[Darth Cheney]

Article III. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. The utmost good faith shall always be observed towards the Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress; but laws founded in justice and humanity, shall from time to time be made for preventing wrongs being done to them, and for preserving peace and friendship with them.

As an off topic aside:

If the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 is to be considered an enduring and legally binding document it could have some interesting implications. None of the Indian wars were authorized by congress.

And the Indians signed treaties stating they wouldn't attack settlers...

Do you weep for Leonard Peltier? I'm just wondering how stupid you really are.

[Jammer]

Article III. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. The utmost good faith shall always be observed towards the Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress; but laws founded in justice and humanity, shall from time to time be made for preventing wrongs being done to them, and for preserving peace and friendship with them.

As an off topic aside:

If the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 is to be considered an enduring and legally binding document it could have some interesting implications. None of the Indian wars were authorized by congress.

Your actions are so predictable.  I have been watching you on here for the past several weeks and you have a set routine which borders on hilarious if you weren’t so ridiculous.   By the numbers here is your typical pattern of behavior.

1.  You post some asinine liberal propaganda statement
2.  You leave the site
3.  As soon as you get an e-mail notice that somebody has replied to you, you log back on
4.  You read any replies to your dumbass comment
5.  You leave the site
6.  You crank Google up and search all the Marxist sites like Mother Jones
7.  You locate pertinent information on the issues being discussed
8.  You copy the various liberal talking points and other information listed
9.  You log back on to the forum and then paste all of the information you have copied
10.  You add some insignificant personal comment along with your pasted material
11.  You leave the site until you get another e-mail notice that someone has replied to you
12.  You do it all over again and again and again


You are a JOKE

[Gomezz Adddams]

Article III. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. The utmost good faith shall always be observed towards the Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress; but laws founded in justice and humanity, shall from time to time be made for preventing wrongs being done to them, and for preserving peace and friendship with them.

As an off topic aside:

If the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 is to be considered an enduring and legally binding document it could have some interesting implications. None of the Indian wars were authorized by congress.

While not formally declared (the US has fought only five formally declared wars) the Northwest Indian War was specifically authorized by Congress on Sept 29, 1789, by giving President Washington the authorization to call the militia into service "for the purpose of protecting the inhabitants of the frontiers of the United States from the hostile incursions of the Indians" (armed by the British) and by enlarging the total enlistment of the Army. The Treaty of Greenville eventually ended the war in 1795 with the cession of lands by the tribes of the Iroquois Nation, Wyandot, Delaware, Ottawa, Chippewa, Potawatomi and Sauk.

[Rusty Houser]

Your actions are so predictable.  I have been watching you on here for the past several weeks and you have a set routine which borders on hilarious if you weren’t so ridiculous.   By the numbers here is your typical pattern of behavior.

1.  You post some asinine liberal propaganda statement
2.  You leave the site
3.  As soon as you get an e-mail notice that somebody has replied to you, you log back on
4.  You read any replies to your dumbass comment
5.  You leave the site
6.  You crank Google up and search all the Marxist sites like Mother Jones
7.  You locate pertinent information on the issues being discussed
8.  You copy the various liberal talking points and other information listed
9.  You log back on to the forum and then paste all of the information you have copied
10.  You add some insignificant personal comment along with your pasted material
11.  You leave the site until you get another e-mail notice that someone has replied to you
12.  You do it all over again and again and again


You are a JOKE

Wow, that's more than just a little creepy. Aside from your scenario being born out of nothing but your own overactive fantasies, it shows an obsession that goes way beyond anything that could be considered healthy. Do you really spend that much time fantasizing about my every move? I'm not sure if I should be flattered or concerned.

By "marxist sites" do you mean the Gospels and the writings of our founding fathers? That shows more about yourself and your disregard of God and country when they don't agree with your narrow ideology.

Maybe you should take all that time you spend obsessing about me and come up with a valid argument defending your wish to ignore the constitution and the rulings of the Supreme court. The democrats tried for years to get their literalist/fundamentalist beliefs into the public school system and were shot down repeatedly. Now the usurping noecons like yourself are continuing that futile fight.

Maybe you should take all that time you spend obsessing about me and come up with a coherent argument showing us where Jesus said we should shove His words down the throats of those unwilling to hear them.

But you can't offer a defense against His word or the laws of the land can you? Your only recourse is to fly into a frothing rage of personal attacks like judging the state of my patriotism, faith and my soul, yet another of our Lord's mandates that you break with wild abandon.

[Jammer]

Your actions are so predictable.  I have been watching you on here for the past several weeks and you have a set routine which borders on hilarious if you weren’t so ridiculous.   By the numbers here is your typical pattern of behavior.

1.  You post some asinine liberal propaganda statement
2.  You leave the site
3.  As soon as you get an e-mail notice that somebody has replied to you, you log back on
4.  You read any replies to your dumbass comment
5.  You leave the site
6.  You crank Google up and search all the Marxist sites like Mother Jones
7.  You locate pertinent information on the issues being discussed
8.  You copy the various liberal talking points and other information listed
9.  You log back on to the forum and then paste all of the information you have copied
10.  You add some insignificant personal comment along with your pasted material
11.  You leave the site until you get another e-mail notice that someone has replied to you
12.  You do it all over again and again and again


You are a JOKE

Wow, that's more than just a little creepy. Aside from your scenario being born out of nothing but your own overactive fantasies, it shows an obsession that goes way beyond anything that could be considered healthy. Do you really spend that much time fantasizing about my every move? I'm not sure if I should be flattered or concerned.

By "marxist sites" do you mean the Gospels and the writings of our founding fathers? That shows more about yourself and your disregard of God and country when they don't agree with your narrow ideology.

Maybe you should take all that time you spend obsessing about me and come up with a valid argument defending your wish to ignore the constitution and the rulings of the Supreme court. The democrats tried for years to get their literalist/fundamentalist beliefs into the public school system and were shot down repeatedly. Now the usurping noecons like yourself are continuing that futile fight.

Maybe you should take all that time you spend obsessing about me and come up with a coherent argument showing us where Jesus said we should shove His words down the throats of those unwilling to hear them.

But you can't offer a defense against His word or the laws of the land can you? Your only recourse is to fly into a frothing rage of personal attacks like judging the state of my patriotism, faith and my soul, yet another of our Lord's mandates that you break with wild abandon.

You are simply a joke; I am not sure how you can look in a mirror in the morning.  My obsession with you – that is laughable?    You forgot to mention that the only reason I even notice you is that you are constantly trying to attack my comments with some liberal talking point or outright lie.  Unfortunately I make the mistake of reacting to your liberal drivel.  If it were not for your constant attacks on my comments, I wouldn’t even know that you exist.  I don’t waste my time with subhuman liberal life forms.

And you must be kidding, your patriotism and fondness for our Founding Fathers is another joke.  You stand in polar opposition to our Founding Documents and the principles that helped create them.  You have taken every opportunity to attack them and denigrate them.  That was the most pathetic lie you have told.  Darth truly has you pegged, you are a lying liberal.

You have no regard or respect for our Founding Fathers, in fact you and your kind have replaced them with your “funding fathers”:   Roosevelt, Wilson, Johnson, Carter, Clinton and now the greatest funding father of all time, your personal hero Obama.

[Shortie's Ex]

LOL Mr Jammer.  A month ago you wrote this:

You are 100% accurate and there is ZERO value in engaging in any discussions with these evil scum.  

Facts, data, logic, reason and commonsense are all trumped by how a dumbass progressive liberal FEELS about an issue.  They are worthless to society and they should be branded and treated accordingly.

https://justsayingit.forumotion.com/t1530p30-name-that-liberal-sin#14085

But you soldier on.

God bless you brother Jammer.

[Jammer]

LOL Mr Jammer.  A month ago you wrote this:

You are 100% accurate and there is ZERO value in engaging in any discussions with these evil scum.  

Facts, data, logic, reason and commonsense are all trumped by how a dumbass progressive liberal FEELS about an issue.  They are worthless to society and they should be branded and treated accordingly.

https://justsayingit.forumotion.com/t1530p30-name-that-liberal-sin#14085

But you soldier on.

God bless you brother Jammer.

Yeah, I know it doesn't do much good to be right in your observations and opinions if you don't follow your own advice.

[Rusty Houser]

you are constantly trying to attack my comments...

Oh you poor baby, your comments are being "attacked" with a different opinion. How can this be allowed in a discussion forum dedicated to freely speaking what's on your mind? How could we ever allow differing opinions in America? I can only imagine the emotional turmoil you must be going through.

It's abundantly clear that our founding fathers never intended this to be a country where differing opinions are tolerated. We can never have freedom until we all think alike and all dissenting voices are squelched.

[Jammer]

you are constantly trying to attack my comments...

Oh you poor baby, your comments are being "attacked" with a different opinion. How can this be allowed in a discussion forum dedicated to freely speaking what's on your mind? How could we ever allow differing opinions in America? I can only imagine the emotional turmoil you must be going through.

It's abundantly clear that our founding fathers never intended this to be a country where differing opinions are tolerated. We can never have freedom until we all think alike and all dissenting voices are squelched.

It is apparent that your FUNDING fathers never wanted you to work or be responsible for yourself.  So go pray to your FUNDING fathers and leave decent Americans alone.  We are sick of you pathetic socialists.

[Just Braying It]

How can anyone say with a straight face that God has been removed from society? I can count six Christian churches within a four block radius of my house and every hotel room I've ever stayed in had a Bible in it. I think this faux Christian persecution is getting a little too dramatic.

Besides anyone who worries more about other people's relationship with God than their own is part of the problem.

Yeah, that Christian persecution doesn't really exist....("faux")

http://www.christianpost.com/news/sociologists-christianophobia-anti-christian-hostility-infects-powerful-elite-subculture-interview-133227/

In the minds of many of the respondents Christians are ignorant, intolerant and stupid individuals who are unable to think for themselves. The general image they have of Christians is that they are a backward, non-critical thinking, child-like people who do not like science and want to interfere with the lives of everyone else.

image: http://images.christianpost.com/full/50861/george-yancey.jpg?w=262

image: http://images.christianpost.com/full/50861/george-yancey.jpg?w=262

George Yancey
(Photo: George Yancey)
George Yancey, professor of sociology, University of North Texas
image: http://graphic.christianpost.com/images/homepage11/enlarge4.png

image: http://graphic.christianpost.com/images/homepage11/enlarge4.png


But even worse, they see ordinary Christians as having been manipulated by evil Christian leaders and will vote in whatever way those leaders want. They believe that those leaders are trying to set up a theocracy to force everybody to accept their Christian beliefs. So, for some with Christianophobia, this is a struggle for our society and our ability to move toward a progressive society. Christians are often seen as the great evil force that blocks our society from achieving this progressive paradise.

How does this compare to openly calling for a hunting season against someone based on their religion?

[Darth Cheney]

God loves all people!

[BladeRunner]

How does this compare to openly calling for a hunting season against someone based on their religion?

Huh? Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China.....

I finally found what you may be referring to...this post?

https://justsayingit.forumotion.com/t1563-will-the-crazy-ever-end#14805

I don't agree with that post, whatsoever, so don't associate me with it by quoting my post...

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