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Post  Skeptical Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:59 am


Semantics is such a useful tool, for without it probably more than half of all disagreements would disappear!

Somebody once said something about A rose by any other name is still a rose.

So it is with a large powerful central government, A.K.A. "The state"  So why waste time splitting hairs what term is used, just look for the common element(s).

Socialism, Communism & Fascism - Many Things In Common

Socialism, Communism and Fascism have many things in common.   Whether Socialist, Communist or Fascist leaders come to power by election, or seizing power,  they all speak in terms of collective good over individual freedom.   Throughout history, Socialist, Communist and Fascist leaders have jailed, or murdered their opposition to silence critics.   They all did it in the name of presumed collective good; though rarely did any good come of it, only repression, misery and poverty.   Socialists, Communists and Fascists have all implemented a centralized command economy where the "state" dictates the focus and means of production; rather than a free market economy allowing supply and demand to determine those decisions and outcomes.   The end result of Socialist, Communist, or Fascist tampering with the economy has always been slower growth and higher unemployment than would otherwise be the case.

http://www.nationalfreedomforum.com/2011/06/socialism-communism-fascism-many-things.html

Or this;

In case anyone still doubts the fact that there was no difference in princple between the fascists and the socialists, consider the following revealing quotations from various infamous Nazis and other fascists:


We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.

The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and for the good of all. Therefore, we demand:...an end to the power of the financial interests.

We demand profit sharing in big business.

We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.

We demand...the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of the national, state and municipal governments.

In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education...We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents...

The government must undertake the improvement of public health -- by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.

https://www2.lawrence.edu/sorg/OBJECTIVISM/SOCFASC.HTML


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Post  Just Braying It Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:05 am

Jammer wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Jammer wrote:What's the matter COMRADE BUTTHOLE?   Don't you have anything to say about the fact that everything you believe in is in the communist party platform and everything in the communist party platform is what you believe?

That sort of says a lot about you doesn't it?   You and everything that you believe in is EVIL.
I apologize for not responding timely. I've been busy re-enforcing my bunker to handle a commie nuke.

I'll get to it though, Tail Gun.

Why don't you start by listing the things in the communist document below that you do NOT agree with:

http://www.cpusa.org/party-program/

So far, I have not been able to identify any.  I have however noted dozens and at last count it was over 100 things that you and your communist comrades on here believe in.

You communist scum are despicable.
How about you go ahead and make a list of the things me and my commie buddies believe in.

I knew it.  You pathetic cretin can’t even name ONE SINGLE thing you disagree with in the communist platform or constitution.  You along with comrade Jackoff Jones and comrade Sleazy Slut are 100% in agreement with all the entire list of communist principles, policies and values.  

I am not going to take the time to list over 100 things that you have in common with the communist doctrine, but I will list a few by copying them directly from the communist document.  I have personally witnessed you, comrade Jackoff Jones and comrade Sleazy Slut support and advocate for every one of these positions.  You are all evil communist cretins.


1.  Public programs for free health care,   2.   free education through the college level, 3.  combating illiteracy,   4.  ending malnutrition, and  5.   guaranteeing jobs would be built… …………..socialism uses technological improvements and increases in productivity to fund 6.  social programs, to  7.  shorten the workweek, and to provide free health and education. ….Socialism will eliminate much inequality by 8.  taking profit away from the capitalist class and utilizing it for the public good (redistribution of wealth).   9. Workers will be paid according to the principle, from each according to their ability, to each according to their work.

The people of our country have the potential to 10. eliminate the greedy corporations that doom working people to poverty,   11.  to speed-up,   12. to plant closings and  13. the export of jobs, and   14.to wage differentials between men and women workers and   15. between racially and nationally oppressed workers and white workers,   16. wage differentials that place hundreds of billions of dollars of excess profits every year in the coffers of the already obscenely wealthy. The people can thwart the  17.  power of corporations that dooms working people to elections where money speaks louder than votes,  18.   to a court system that protects the rights of private property over the basic human rights of the majority, and to homelessness, malnutrition, and lack of health care.

19. The building of a mass peoples party capable of contending for governmental power, a party free of domination by any monopoly interests;
20. Removal from the electoral system of the financial contributions of monopolies, to be replaced by public funding and guarantees of honest elections where each vote counts and all votes are counted;
21.  Replacing the foreign policy of preemptive strikes and dictating to the world in the interests of U.S.-based transnationals with a policy of international cooperation to solve problems of war and aggression, poverty, education, environment, health, and development;
22.  Full restoration and expansion of the Bill of Rights and all democratic rights; the complete separation of church and state;
23. Full legal protection from hate crimes and racial profiling, and the outlawing of oral and written racist propaganda;
24.  Implementation of affirmative action and compensatory programs to achieve actual equality for the racially and nationally oppressed and women;
25.  Prevention of the freedom of monopolies to move assets in ways that harm workers and communities without full compensation; the guaranteed right to a job at living wages or full income through public works and public service jobs; the growth of public ownership of industries;
26.  Elimination of management prerogatives coupled with the expansion of workers and union rights to prevent socially harmful management decisions;
 27.  Full funding for education, affordable housing programs, day care, Social Security, a universal health care program, youth job training and recreation programs, and cultural programs;
28.  Creation of a social fund starting at $200 billion to make up for past and continuing wrongs and to help achieve equality in facilities and infrastructure for communities of the racially and nationally oppressed;
29.  No taxes for workers and low and middle income people; progressive taxation of the wealthy and private corporations;
30. Military budget slashed to a fraction of current spending;
31.  Racism remains the most potent weapon to divide working people. All workers receive lower wages when racism succeeds in dividing and disorganizing them. Institutionalized racism provides billions in extra profits for the capitalists every year due to the unequal pay racially oppressed workers receive for work of comparable value. In every aspect of economic and social life, African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asians and Pacific Islanders, Arabs and Middle Eastern peoples, and other nationally and racially oppressed people experience conditions inferior to that of whites.
32.  The U.S. Constitution, as originally written, placed many restrictions on democracy, so from the time of the countrys founding there has been a continual battle to extend democracy.
33.  Capitalists directly gain from special oppression.
34.  From its inception, the United States was built on racism.
35.  Thousands of undocumented, mainly agricultural workers crossing the border with Mexico are subjected to the murderous policies of the Border Patrol and racist vigilantes.
36.  The demonization of Arabs, Muslims and South Asians does not make anyone safer.
37.  Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and the transgenderedthe LGBT community face discrimination in housing and employment, lack full legal and civil rights, and are frequently the victims of hate crimes.
38.  Our country, our people, and our environment are all being destroyed by the greed of a few obscenely wealthy capitalist groupings.
38.  Our world is threatened by the ravages of capitalist globalization, by relentless efforts to drive wages down to the lowest possible level,

And Jackoff Jones’ favorite section:
Farmers and the Rural Population
All working people are affected by the chronic crisis in rural America. Food prices are soaring. Family farmers, farm workers, and workers in food processing who place that bounty on our tables receive a shrinking share of the food dollar. Most of the wealth is flowing into the coffers of ADM, Monsanto, Cargill, Tyson, and other agribusiness giants. These leeches suck the lifeblood out of rural America, leaving farmers and rural communities to shrivel and die while delivering to the supermarkets and fast food chains modified and processed foods of dubious safety and nutrition.
……We need federal programs that enable farmers to stay on their farms and young farmers to go into farming. We need programs to save farmland from rapacious real estate developers who are gobbling up fertile farmland. The Federal government must stop stalling and pay Black farmers the restitution ordered by a federal judge for a century of racist discrimination in farm loans. The Communist Party supports a policy of sustainable agriculture that produces safe, nutritious food, fair farm commodity prices for farmers and union wages for farm workers.
A growing movement by independent farmers, farm workers, and workers in the food processing industry is fighting for union rights and the rights of small independent farmers. But so far, those struggles are on parallel tracks that have not yet merged into one mighty voice for progressive change in rural America. This remains the urgent task yet to be completed.
3.combating illiteracy

I'm all for that. Guess that makes me a commie, huh Tail Gun.

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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:36 am

Comrade Butthole, it appears that you were unsuccessful in combating your own illiteracy. The task was to list all of the things in the communist USA platform and constitution that you disagree with and so far you have been unable to identify even one let alone several dozen. That means you are either illiterate or a fuching COMMUNIST.
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Post  Just Braying It Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:38 am

4. Ending malnutrition

I'm for that one too. I'd imagine Jesus would be on board with that also.

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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:50 am


  DO YOU NEED ANY MORE PROOF?    


Comrades Butthole, Jackoff Jones and Sleazy Slut have been unable to identify even one single part of the communist USA platform and constitution that they disagree with, let alone a significant number of items.  And why is that?  Well first off I have personally witnessed all 3 of the evil cretins on this forum supporting and advocating for almost every single element of the communist USA platform and constitution.

Unfortunately, 80% plus of the democrats in this country are in the same situation and that is because the communists have hijacked the democrat party.  


Nikita Khrushchev wrote:You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands  
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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:17 am

Ham Flower? wrote:4. Ending malnutrition

I'm for that one too. I'd imagine Jesus would be on board with that also.

And we can all see how your beloved ideology of communism has allowed malnutrition to become prevalent in countries that have embraced communism.


North Korea malnutrition
http://www.ibtimes.com/under-kim-jong-un-north-koreas-children-suffering-severe-malnutrition-need-18m-aid-2280105

Cuba malnutrition
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15811770


Vietnam malnutrition
http://tuoitrenews.vn/society/13954/32-mln-vietnamese-children-suffer-from-malnutrition


China malnutrition
http://borgenproject.org/malnutrition-plagues-children-rural-china/


And sadly malnutrition is coming to America as socialism is growing in this country.  The more socialism spreads the more malnutrition and other problems become rampant.  The United States is being driven into third world status thanks to the hard work of comrades Butthole, Jackoff Jones and Sleazy Slut.  I am sure some of you will have kind words for these communists then next time you see them.  I however, will fight these assholes every day of my life.
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Post  Skeptical Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:53 am

Jammer wrote:
Nikita Khrushchev wrote:You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands  

One of the things I learned in all my years is the world is made up of

(1)  People who make things happen
(2)  People who watch things happen
AND
(3) People who wonder what happened.

So, when the fit hits the sham as outlined by Nikita above there may be a lot of people in this country who will holler, "what in the heck happened and how could this have happened?" .... in spite of others trying to tell/show them for at least the last 7 1/2 years.
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Post  Just Braying It Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:31 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Nikita Khrushchev wrote:You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands  

One of the things I learned in all my years is the world is made up of

(1)  People who make things happen
(2)  People who watch things happen
AND
(3) People who wonder what happened.

So, when the fit hits the sham as outlined by Nikita above there may be a lot of people in this country who will holler, "what in the heck happened and how could this have happened?" .... in spite of others trying to tell/show them for at least the last 7 1/2 years.
And if communists don't take over this country like you're hoping for, then:

1) I've spent the last seven years enjoying my life
2) You've been locked in your bunker the last seven years awaiting a false disaster.

I'll choose the former any day of the week.

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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:02 pm

Jammer wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Jammer wrote:What's the matter COMRADE BUTTHOLE?   Don't you have anything to say about the fact that everything you believe in is in the communist party platform and everything in the communist party platform is what you believe?

That sort of says a lot about you doesn't it?   You and everything that you believe in is EVIL.
I apologize for not responding timely. I've been busy re-enforcing my bunker to handle a commie nuke.

I'll get to it though, Tail Gun.

Why don't you start by listing the things in the communist document below that you do NOT agree with:

http://www.cpusa.org/party-program/

So far, I have not been able to identify any.  I have however noted dozens and at last count it was over 100 things that you and your communist comrades on here believe in.

You communist scum are despicable.
How about you go ahead and make a list of the things me and my commie buddies believe in.

I knew it.  You pathetic cretin can’t even name ONE SINGLE thing you disagree with in the communist platform or constitution.  You along with comrade Jackoff Jones and comrade Sleazy Slut are 100% in agreement with all the entire list of communist principles, policies and values.  

I am not going to take the time to list over 100 things that you have in common with the communist doctrine, but I will list a few by copying them directly from the communist document.  I have personally witnessed you, comrade Jackoff Jones and comrade Sleazy Slut support and advocate for every one of these positions.  You are all evil communist cretins.


1.  Public programs for free health care,   2.   free education through the college level, 3.  combating illiteracy,   4.  ending malnutrition, and  5.   guaranteeing jobs would be built… …………..socialism uses technological improvements and increases in productivity to fund 6.  social programs, to  7.  shorten the workweek, and to provide free health and education. ….Socialism will eliminate much inequality by 8.  taking profit away from the capitalist class and utilizing it for the public good (redistribution of wealth).   9. Workers will be paid according to the principle, from each according to their ability, to each according to their work.

I believe in single payer healthcare.  I do not believe in free college education.   I do not believe in shortening the workweek. I do believe that when businesses are showing record profits and record production their employees should not have stagnant wages 


The people of our country have the potential to 10. eliminate the greedy corporations that doom working people to poverty,   11.  to speed-up,   12. to plant closings and  13. the export of jobs, and   14.to wage differentials between men and women workers and   15. between racially and nationally oppressed workers and white workers,   16. wage differentials that place hundreds of billions of dollars of excess profits every year in the coffers of the already obscenely wealthy. The people can thwart the  17.  power of corporations that dooms working people to elections where money speaks louder than votes,  18.   to a court system that protects the rights of private property over the basic human rights of the majority, and to homelessness, malnutrition, and lack of health care.

I believe that people who receive windfall profits year in and year out by supplying essentials that have no real competition, such as healthcare and oil need to be held accountable to the American people or the government should be able to offer a cheaper alternative if it's possible. 

19. The building of a mass peoples party capable of contending for governmental power, a party free of domination by any monopoly interests;
20. Removal from the electoral system of the financial contributions of monopolies, to be replaced by public funding and guarantees of honest elections where each vote counts and all votes are counted;

A government of the people,  by the people,  and for the people is essential.  And yes money needs to be limited in elections.   

21.  Replacing the foreign policy of preemptive strikes and dictating to the world in the interests of U.S.-based transnationals with a policy of international cooperation to solve problems of war and aggression, poverty, education, environment, health, and development;

Yes,  the bomb first and ask questions later method is bullshiit.


22.  Full restoration and expansion of the Bill of Rights and all democratic rights; the complete separation of church and state;

Absolutely 

23. Full legal protection from hate crimes and racial profiling, and the outlawing of oral and written racist propaganda;

I don't agree with outlawing racist propaganda.


24.  Implementation of affirmative action and compensatory programs to achieve actual equality for the racially and nationally oppressed and women;
25.  Prevention of the freedom of monopolies to move assets in ways that harm workers and communities without full compensation; the guaranteed right to a job at living wages or full income through public works and public service jobs; the growth of public ownership of industries;

I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.  


26.  Elimination of management prerogatives coupled with the expansion of workers and union rights to prevent socially harmful management decisions;

I don't agree with limiting of management.  I do agree with the expansion of workers rights through unions considering the fact that they know they have a product to sell as well. 

 27.  Full funding for education, affordable housing programs, day care, Social Security, a universal health care program, youth job training and recreation programs, and cultural programs;

No. 

28.  Creation of a social fund starting at $200 billion to make up for past and continuing wrongs and to help achieve equality in facilities and infrastructure for communities of the racially and nationally oppressed;

No. 

29.  No taxes for workers and low and middle income people; progressive taxation of the wealthy and private corporations;

All businesses should have the ability to reach a 0% tax rate by meeting certain guidelines. 

30. Military budget slashed to a fraction of current spending;

Yes. 

31.  Racism remains the most potent weapon to divide working people. All workers receive lower wages when racism succeeds in dividing and disorganizing them. Institutionalized racism provides billions in extra profits for the capitalists every year due to the unequal pay racially oppressed workers receive for work of comparable value. In every aspect of economic and social life, African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asians and Pacific Islanders, Arabs and Middle Eastern peoples, and other nationally and racially oppressed people experience conditions inferior to that of whites.

No. 

32.  The U.S. Constitution, as originally written, placed many restrictions on democracy, so from the time of the countrys founding there has been a continual battle to extend democracy.
33.  Capitalists directly gain from special oppression.
34.  From its inception, the United States was built on racism.
35.  Thousands of undocumented, mainly agricultural workers crossing the border with Mexico are subjected to the murderous policies of the Border Patrol and racist vigilantes.
36.  The demonization of Arabs, Muslims and South Asians does not make anyone safer.

Yes. 

37.  Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and the transgenderedthe LGBT community face discrimination in housing and employment, lack full legal and civil rights, and are frequently the victims of hate crimes.

Yes. 

38.  Our country, our people, and our environment are all being destroyed by the greed of a few obscenely wealthy capitalist groupings.
38.  Our world is threatened by the ravages of capitalist globalization, by relentless efforts to drive wages down to the lowest possible level,

And Jackoff Jones’ favorite section:
Farmers and the Rural Population
All working people are affected by the chronic crisis in rural America. Food prices are soaring. Family farmers, farm workers, and workers in food processing who place that bounty on our tables receive a shrinking share of the food dollar. Most of the wealth is flowing into the coffers of ADM, Monsanto, Cargill, Tyson, and other agribusiness giants. These leeches suck the lifeblood out of rural America, leaving farmers and rural communities to shrivel and die while delivering to the supermarkets and fast food chains modified and processed foods of dubious safety and nutrition.
……We need federal programs that enable farmers to stay on their farms and young farmers to go into farming. We need programs to save farmland from rapacious real estate developers who are gobbling up fertile farmland. The Federal government must stop stalling and pay Black farmers the restitution ordered by a federal judge for a century of racist discrimination in farm loans. The Communist Party supports a policy of sustainable agriculture that produces safe, nutritious food, fair farm commodity prices for farmers and union wages for farm workers.
A growing movement by independent farmers, farm workers, and workers in the food processing industry is fighting for union rights and the rights of small independent farmers. But so far, those struggles are on parallel tracks that have not yet merged into one mighty voice for progressive change in rural America. This remains the urgent task yet to be completed.
Any other stupid questions?

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:30 pm

Ham Flower? wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Nikita Khrushchev wrote:You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands  

One of the things I learned in all my years is the world is made up of

(1)  People who make things happen
(2)  People who watch things happen
AND
(3) People who wonder what happened.

So, when the fit hits the sham as outlined by Nikita above there may be a lot of people in this country who will holler, "what in the heck happened and how could this have happened?" .... in spite of others trying to tell/show them for at least the last 7 1/2 years.
And if communists don't take over this country like you're hoping for, then:

1) I've spent the last seven years enjoying my life
2) You've been locked in your bunker the last seven years awaiting a false disaster.

I'll choose the former any day of the week.

This country is full of people like yourself who don't mind living on their knees.
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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:48 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Jammer wrote:What's the matter COMRADE BUTTHOLE?   Don't you have anything to say about the fact that everything you believe in is in the communist party platform and everything in the communist party platform is what you believe?

That sort of says a lot about you doesn't it?   You and everything that you believe in is EVIL.
I apologize for not responding timely. I've been busy re-enforcing my bunker to handle a commie nuke.

I'll get to it though, Tail Gun.

Why don't you start by listing the things in the communist document below that you do NOT agree with:

http://www.cpusa.org/party-program/

So far, I have not been able to identify any.  I have however noted dozens and at last count it was over 100 things that you and your communist comrades on here believe in.

You communist scum are despicable.
How about you go ahead and make a list of the things me and my commie buddies believe in.

I knew it.  You pathetic cretin can’t even name ONE SINGLE thing you disagree with in the communist platform or constitution.  You along with comrade Jackoff Jones and comrade Sleazy Slut are 100% in agreement with all the entire list of communist principles, policies and values.  

I am not going to take the time to list over 100 things that you have in common with the communist doctrine, but I will list a few by copying them directly from the communist document.  I have personally witnessed you, comrade Jackoff Jones and comrade Sleazy Slut support and advocate for every one of these positions.  You are all evil communist cretins.


1.  Public programs for free health care,   2.   free education through the college level, 3.  combating illiteracy,   4.  ending malnutrition, and  5.   guaranteeing jobs would be built… …………..socialism uses technological improvements and increases in productivity to fund 6.  social programs, to  7.  shorten the workweek, and to provide free health and education. ….Socialism will eliminate much inequality by 8.  taking profit away from the capitalist class and utilizing it for the public good (redistribution of wealth).   9. Workers will be paid according to the principle, from each according to their ability, to each according to their work.

I believe in single payer healthcare.  I do not believe in free college education.   I do not believe in shortening the workweek. I do believe that when businesses are showing record profits and record production their employees should not have stagnant wages 


The people of our country have the potential to 10. eliminate the greedy corporations that doom working people to poverty,   11.  to speed-up,   12. to plant closings and  13. the export of jobs, and   14.to wage differentials between men and women workers and   15. between racially and nationally oppressed workers and white workers,   16. wage differentials that place hundreds of billions of dollars of excess profits every year in the coffers of the already obscenely wealthy. The people can thwart the  17.  power of corporations that dooms working people to elections where money speaks louder than votes,  18.   to a court system that protects the rights of private property over the basic human rights of the majority, and to homelessness, malnutrition, and lack of health care.

I believe that people who receive windfall profits year in and year out by supplying essentials that have no real competition, such as healthcare and oil need to be held accountable to the American people or the government should be able to offer a cheaper alternative if it's possible. 

19. The building of a mass peoples party capable of contending for governmental power, a party free of domination by any monopoly interests;
20. Removal from the electoral system of the financial contributions of monopolies, to be replaced by public funding and guarantees of honest elections where each vote counts and all votes are counted;

A government of the people,  by the people,  and for the people is essential.  And yes money needs to be limited in elections.   

21.  Replacing the foreign policy of preemptive strikes and dictating to the world in the interests of U.S.-based transnationals with a policy of international cooperation to solve problems of war and aggression, poverty, education, environment, health, and development;

Yes,  the bomb first and ask questions later method is bullshiit.


22.  Full restoration and expansion of the Bill of Rights and all democratic rights; the complete separation of church and state;

Absolutely 

23. Full legal protection from hate crimes and racial profiling, and the outlawing of oral and written racist propaganda;

I don't agree with outlawing racist propaganda.


24.  Implementation of affirmative action and compensatory programs to achieve actual equality for the racially and nationally oppressed and women;
25.  Prevention of the freedom of monopolies to move assets in ways that harm workers and communities without full compensation; the guaranteed right to a job at living wages or full income through public works and public service jobs; the growth of public ownership of industries;

I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.  


26.  Elimination of management prerogatives coupled with the expansion of workers and union rights to prevent socially harmful management decisions;

I don't agree with limiting of management.  I do agree with the expansion of workers rights through unions considering the fact that they know they have a product to sell as well. 

 27.  Full funding for education, affordable housing programs, day care, Social Security, a universal health care program, youth job training and recreation programs, and cultural programs;

No. 

28.  Creation of a social fund starting at $200 billion to make up for past and continuing wrongs and to help achieve equality in facilities and infrastructure for communities of the racially and nationally oppressed;

No. 

29.  No taxes for workers and low and middle income people; progressive taxation of the wealthy and private corporations;

All businesses should have the ability to reach a 0% tax rate by meeting certain guidelines. 

30. Military budget slashed to a fraction of current spending;

Yes. 

31.  Racism remains the most potent weapon to divide working people. All workers receive lower wages when racism succeeds in dividing and disorganizing them. Institutionalized racism provides billions in extra profits for the capitalists every year due to the unequal pay racially oppressed workers receive for work of comparable value. In every aspect of economic and social life, African Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asians and Pacific Islanders, Arabs and Middle Eastern peoples, and other nationally and racially oppressed people experience conditions inferior to that of whites.

No. 

32.  The U.S. Constitution, as originally written, placed many restrictions on democracy, so from the time of the countrys founding there has been a continual battle to extend democracy.
33.  Capitalists directly gain from special oppression.
34.  From its inception, the United States was built on racism.
35.  Thousands of undocumented, mainly agricultural workers crossing the border with Mexico are subjected to the murderous policies of the Border Patrol and racist vigilantes.
36.  The demonization of Arabs, Muslims and South Asians does not make anyone safer.

Yes. 

37.  Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and the transgenderedthe LGBT community face discrimination in housing and employment, lack full legal and civil rights, and are frequently the victims of hate crimes.

Yes. 

38.  Our country, our people, and our environment are all being destroyed by the greed of a few obscenely wealthy capitalist groupings.
38.  Our world is threatened by the ravages of capitalist globalization, by relentless efforts to drive wages down to the lowest possible level,

And Jackoff Jones’ favorite section:
Farmers and the Rural Population
All working people are affected by the chronic crisis in rural America. Food prices are soaring. Family farmers, farm workers, and workers in food processing who place that bounty on our tables receive a shrinking share of the food dollar. Most of the wealth is flowing into the coffers of ADM, Monsanto, Cargill, Tyson, and other agribusiness giants. These leeches suck the lifeblood out of rural America, leaving farmers and rural communities to shrivel and die while delivering to the supermarkets and fast food chains modified and processed foods of dubious safety and nutrition.
……We need federal programs that enable farmers to stay on their farms and young farmers to go into farming. We need programs to save farmland from rapacious real estate developers who are gobbling up fertile farmland. The Federal government must stop stalling and pay Black farmers the restitution ordered by a federal judge for a century of racist discrimination in farm loans. The Communist Party supports a policy of sustainable agriculture that produces safe, nutritious food, fair farm commodity prices for farmers and union wages for farm workers.
A growing movement by independent farmers, farm workers, and workers in the food processing industry is fighting for union rights and the rights of small independent farmers. But so far, those struggles are on parallel tracks that have not yet merged into one mighty voice for progressive change in rural America. This remains the urgent task yet to be completed.
Any other stupid questions?

That was completely lame and I might add quite dishonest.  First you used a lot of words to disagree with virtually nothing.  Second, most of the stuff you feebly attempted to disagree with were blatant contradictions to your previous comments.  So let's see how does that go"  "You were for it before you were against it"?

Well JammerCheck shows your comments to be 99% FALSE and therefore you are at least 99% in line with communist ideology.  That may not qualify you for a leadership position in the communist USA party, but don't worry - they still need you as their USEFUL IDIOT.

And I fully expect you to completely reverse course on that missing 1% now that you are aware of it, you evil cretin.
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:20 pm

Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.

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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:35 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.


Well for starters when

YOU wrote:
I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.    

There are numerous and I mean numerous examples where you contradicted that statement.  You can begin with your statement in that very same comment where

YOU wrote:I believe in single payer healthcare.  

If that is not the growth in public ownership of industries I don’t know what it is.  The healthcare industry is 20% of the US GDP and you say that you want the federal government to take it over, but then later deny it.  You are a complete fool if you think people are going to fall for that liberal lie.

And you have argued for many other cases of government ownership.  In fact I can remember you praising Obama for his takeover of GM.  You thought government motors was the best move since the invention of sliced bread.

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:40 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.


Well for starters when

YOU wrote:
I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.    

There are numerous and I mean numerous examples where you contradicted that statement.  You can begin with your statement in that very same comment where

YOU wrote:I believe in single payer healthcare.  

If that is not the growth in public ownership of industries I don’t know what it is.  The healthcare industry is 20% of the US GDP and you say that you want the federal government to take it over, but then later deny it.  You are a complete fool if you think people are going to fall for that liberal lie.

And you have argued for many other cases of government ownership.  In fact I can remember you praising Obama for his takeover of GM.  You thought government motors was the best move since the invention of sliced bread.

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.
Are you going to cite all of my comments on that subject?  Or just cherry pick the parts that can make make the best strawman argument for you?

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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:58 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:   Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  


Well for starters when

YOU wrote:
I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.    

There are numerous and I mean numerous examples where you contradicted that statement.  You can begin with your statement in that very same comment where

YOU wrote:I believe in single payer healthcare.  

If that is not the growth in public ownership of industries I don’t know what it is.  The healthcare industry is 20% of the US GDP and you say that you want the federal government to take it over, but then later deny it.  You are a complete fool if you think people are going to fall for that liberal lie.

And you have argued for many other cases of government ownership.  In fact I can remember you praising Obama for his takeover of GM.  You thought government motors was the best move since the invention of sliced bread.

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.
Are you going to cite all of my comments on that subject?  Or just cherry pick the parts that can make make the best strawman argument for you?

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.

YOU wrote:  Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  

You pathetic piece of dogshit have got to be kidding?  You said show me ONE example to which I not only did, but I used two PRECISE examples of where you contradicted the claim that you did not agree with the public ownership of industries and they were OUTSTANDING examples.  The first was not only issued by you in the VERY SAME COMMENT, but it included the federal government taking over 20% of the GDP in the country.  That is not cherry picking, it is merely connecting 2 dots in the same lying comment that you made.

The second example I used to ALSO demonstrate that contradiction is one that I am sure everyone who has been on this forum remembers your support for Obama taking over GM.  You were outspoken for your praise of that effort.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why a single conservative wastes a minute of their time dealing with such a piece of lying trash like you.  It makes me think they are as pathetic as YOU.
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Post  Just Braying It Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:38 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Nikita Khrushchev wrote:You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands  

One of the things I learned in all my years is the world is made up of

(1)  People who make things happen
(2)  People who watch things happen
AND
(3) People who wonder what happened.

So, when the fit hits the sham as outlined by Nikita above there may be a lot of people in this country who will holler, "what in the heck happened and how could this have happened?" .... in spite of others trying to tell/show them for at least the last 7 1/2 years.
And if communists don't take over this country like you're hoping for, then:

1) I've spent the last seven years enjoying my life
2) You've been locked in your bunker the last seven years awaiting a false disaster.

I'll choose the former any day of the week.

This country is full of people like yourself who don't mind living on their knees.
Actually, it's full of people like you who live in fear of an invisible boogeyman. A manufactured fear that causes them to blow a heart gasket before they even turn 50.

You had better get back to work on your bunker. The commies are coming!

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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:13 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:   Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  


Well for starters when

YOU wrote:
I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.    

There are numerous and I mean numerous examples where you contradicted that statement.  You can begin with your statement in that very same comment where

YOU wrote:I believe in single payer healthcare.  

If that is not the growth in public ownership of industries I don’t know what it is.  The healthcare industry is 20% of the US GDP and you say that you want the federal government to take it over, but then later deny it.  You are a complete fool if you think people are going to fall for that liberal lie.

And you have argued for many other cases of government ownership.  In fact I can remember you praising Obama for his takeover of GM.  You thought government motors was the best move since the invention of sliced bread.

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.
Are you going to cite all of my comments on that subject?  Or just cherry pick the parts that can make make the best strawman argument for you?

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.

YOU wrote:  Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  

You pathetic piece of dogshit have got to be kidding?  You said show me ONE example to which I not only did, but I used two PRECISE examples of where you contradicted the claim that you did not agree with the public ownership of industries and they were OUTSTANDING examples.  The first was not only issued by you in the VERY SAME COMMENT, but it included the federal government taking over 20% of the GDP in the country.  That is not cherry picking, it is merely connecting 2 dots in the same lying comment that you made.

The second example I used to ALSO demonstrate that contradiction is one that I am sure everyone who has been on this forum remembers your support for Obama taking over GM.  You were outspoken for your praise of that effort.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why a single conservative wastes a minute of their time dealing with such a piece of lying trash like you.  It makes me think they are as pathetic as YOU.
The part you conveniently left out:

I believe that people who receive windfall profits year in and year out by supplying essentials that have no real competition, such as healthcare and oil need to be held accountable to the American people or the government should be able to offer a cheaper alternative if it's possible.

As a matter of principle,  I don't want the government in the marketplace.   However in matters where private industry needs to be put in its place,  as in the healthcare industry, I make exceptions.

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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:33 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:   Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  


Well for starters when

YOU wrote:
I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.    

There are numerous and I mean numerous examples where you contradicted that statement.  You can begin with your statement in that very same comment where

YOU wrote:I believe in single payer healthcare.  

If that is not the growth in public ownership of industries I don’t know what it is.  The healthcare industry is 20% of the US GDP and you say that you want the federal government to take it over, but then later deny it.  You are a complete fool if you think people are going to fall for that liberal lie.

And you have argued for many other cases of government ownership.  In fact I can remember you praising Obama for his takeover of GM.  You thought government motors was the best move since the invention of sliced bread.

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.
Are you going to cite all of my comments on that subject?  Or just cherry pick the parts that can make make the best strawman argument for you?

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.

YOU wrote:  Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  

You pathetic piece of dogshit have got to be kidding?  You said show me ONE example to which I not only did, but I used two PRECISE examples of where you contradicted the claim that you did not agree with the public ownership of industries and they were OUTSTANDING examples.  The first was not only issued by you in the VERY SAME COMMENT, but it included the federal government taking over 20% of the GDP in the country.  That is not cherry picking, it is merely connecting 2 dots in the same lying comment that you made.

The second example I used to ALSO demonstrate that contradiction is one that I am sure everyone who has been on this forum remembers your support for Obama taking over GM.  You were outspoken for your praise of that effort.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why a single conservative wastes a minute of their time dealing with such a piece of lying trash like you.  It makes me think they are as pathetic as YOU.
The part you conveniently left out:

I believe that people who receive windfall profits year in and year out by supplying essentials that have no real competition, such as healthcare and oil need to be held accountable to the American people or the government should be able to offer a cheaper alternative if it's possible.

As a matter of principle,  I don't want the government in the marketplace.   However in matters where private industry needs to be put in its place,  as in the healthcare industry, I make exceptions.


  COMPLETE BULLSHIT      

I will waste no more time on a lying sack of dogshit like you.  I know that your comrades will rush to your defense and proclaim that you have made your point.  However, I will merely leave it to the reasonable people to see thru your bullshit.  You are a lying liberal hypocrite that has proven by your own words and actions that you are in COMPLETE agreement with the communist USA platform and constitution.

You are evil scum that deserves no quarter in this country.  You need to move to North Korea where you will be among your own.
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Post  Jammer Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:38 pm

Ham Flower? wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Ham Flower? wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Nikita Khrushchev wrote:You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands  

One of the things I learned in all my years is the world is made up of

(1)  People who make things happen
(2)  People who watch things happen
AND
(3) People who wonder what happened.

So, when the fit hits the sham as outlined by Nikita above there may be a lot of people in this country who will holler, "what in the heck happened and how could this have happened?" .... in spite of others trying to tell/show them for at least the last 7 1/2 years.
And if communists don't take over this country like you're hoping for, then:

1) I've spent the last seven years enjoying my life
2) You've been locked in your bunker the last seven years awaiting a false disaster.

I'll choose the former any day of the week.

This country is full of people like yourself who don't mind living on their knees.
Actually, it's full of people like you who live in fear of an invisible boogeyman. A manufactured fear that causes them to blow a heart gasket before they even turn 50.

You had better get back to work on your bunker. The commies are coming!

They are already here as proven by comrade Jackoff Jones's ownership of the communist USA platform.  The dumbass tried to lie his way out of it, but his words and action betrayed him.

You on the other hand have proven to be a quarter of an ounce smarter than Comrade Jackoff.  You are at least smart enough to know that you are too stupid to deny your communist leanings.  Therefore you have refused to even attempt to identify one single communist point that you are not in agreement with.  And while I commend you for at least knowing that you are too stupid to even try to answer, I still condemn you for being an evil cretin on the face of this earth.

I hope you will join comrade Jackoff when he leaves for his beloved North Korea.  I am sure you will both find total happiness as your ideology is mandatory there.
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:09 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:   Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  


Well for starters when

YOU wrote:
I don't agree with growth of public ownership of industries.    

There are numerous and I mean numerous examples where you contradicted that statement.  You can begin with your statement in that very same comment where

YOU wrote:I believe in single payer healthcare.  

If that is not the growth in public ownership of industries I don’t know what it is.  The healthcare industry is 20% of the US GDP and you say that you want the federal government to take it over, but then later deny it.  You are a complete fool if you think people are going to fall for that liberal lie.

And you have argued for many other cases of government ownership.  In fact I can remember you praising Obama for his takeover of GM.  You thought government motors was the best move since the invention of sliced bread.

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.
Are you going to cite all of my comments on that subject?  Or just cherry pick the parts that can make make the best strawman argument for you?

You are a LYING LIBERAL and nobody with an ounce of commonsense believes a single thing that you say.

YOU wrote:  Show me where I've contradicted myself even one time you fukcing imbecile.  

You pathetic piece of dogshit have got to be kidding?  You said show me ONE example to which I not only did, but I used two PRECISE examples of where you contradicted the claim that you did not agree with the public ownership of industries and they were OUTSTANDING examples.  The first was not only issued by you in the VERY SAME COMMENT, but it included the federal government taking over 20% of the GDP in the country.  That is not cherry picking, it is merely connecting 2 dots in the same lying comment that you made.

The second example I used to ALSO demonstrate that contradiction is one that I am sure everyone who has been on this forum remembers your support for Obama taking over GM.  You were outspoken for your praise of that effort.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why a single conservative wastes a minute of their time dealing with such a piece of lying trash like you.  It makes me think they are as pathetic as YOU.
The part you conveniently left out:

I believe that people who receive windfall profits year in and year out by supplying essentials that have no real competition, such as healthcare and oil need to be held accountable to the American people or the government should be able to offer a cheaper alternative if it's possible.

As a matter of principle,  I don't want the government in the marketplace.   However in matters where private industry needs to be put in its place,  as in the healthcare industry, I make exceptions.


  COMPLETE BULLSHIT      

I will waste no more time on a lying sack of dogshit like you.  I know that your comrades will rush to your defense and proclaim that you have made your point.  However, I will merely leave it to the reasonable people to see thru your bullshit.  You are a lying liberal hypocrite that has proven by your own words and actions that you are in COMPLETE agreement with the communist USA platform and constitution.

You are evil scum that deserves no quarter in this country.  You need to move to North Korea where you will be among your own.
What am I lying about?

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Post  Shortie's Ex Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:02 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:I've been to Europe.  Germany to be exact.  I never had any run-ins with any Muslims, but I did have an eye opening experience none the less.  For the first time in my life I understood what it was like to have brainless retards treat you like a second rate human being.  In all honesty I would have to agree with them about the necessity of our continued occupation in their country,  but there was still no call for the way some treated us there.  

I was with some friends one night at a strip joint in Munich.  The owner started harassing us the minute we walked in.  There wasn't more than 6-8 customers in the place and we were drinking pretty hard while dancers were coming around regularly to give lap dances and talk.  Long story short, we were spending good money.  The owner came over and said we had to buy private dances or get the hell out.  It was ridiculous.  I whipped out a $100 bill US and gave it to the one girl.   He was pissed.  I had my fun though.  

There were other stories too.  We got raped on a bill at a different bar another night.  There were 4 guys from another base who got jumped at an ATM one night. 

After experiencing that type of blind hatred for 10 days, I can't imagine living that way.


   JACKOFF JONES DECODED

The disgusting fabricated story above that was posted by Jackoff Jones is a look into just what type of cretin he is.   His comments clearly show that he thinks and speaks like his hero, Barack Hussein Obama.  Some would say that Jackoff Jones’ comment above shows how he hates America.  However, I think the hatred runs much deeper than that simple analysis.

Obama and Jackoff Jones have repeatedly demonstrated their hatred not only for America but its very Founding Principles.   They both detest the values and principles on which this country was founded.  They refuse to acknowledge the exceptional country that was built as a result of these Founding Principles that most of us know as the conservative principles we believe in.  Jackoff and Obama both feel embarrassed by what they think is our undeserving luck that elevated our great nation above others in the world.  As a result, they denigrate our country and its Founding Principles on a daily basis while offering apologies for our good fortunes and the actions they deem undesirable.

The comment above contains so many elements of what the progressive socialists (aka communists) have used over the last century to control the narrative and eventually gain control of our government.  They pretend to be someone they are NOT, they appeal to the emotions and most of all they LIE.  To them, the ends always justify the means.

But my concern today is not for the deceptive and dishonest tactics of the communists in this country, but over the lack of response by conservatives.   For decades way too many conservatives have remained silent in the face of these blatant lies and as a result let the communists like Jackoff Jones control the narrative.  And so now decades later what do we have as a result, a communist as president.

I realize he does not call himself a communist, but that really doesn’t matter or at least matter for long.  Take a look at what else we have TODAY.  We have a democrat running for president who is finally honest enough to call himself a SOCIALIST.  We also have 60% of the college students in this country believing that SOCIALISM is a viable economic system.  That is a long ways from 50 years ago when the mere mention of a socialist was one of the worst things imaginable that could be said about a person.  And if TODAY it is now OK to call yourself a socialist when running for president, how many more days will it be before they are emboldened enough to use their real label “COMMUNIST”?  I predict it won’t be long.

Why won’t conservatives take a stand against these evil cretins?  Having a friendly exchange of facts found on Google is NOT taking a stand against evil.  It is time to finally deal with the slimy disgusting trash behind these comments.   There should be no place in America for such EVIL cretins.

Pretty much slamming Gomezz here I guess.  How's that worked for you in the past ?
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Post  Shortie's Ex Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:58 pm

Ham Flower? wrote:3.combating illiteracy

I'm all for that. Guess that makes me a commie, huh Tail Gun.

Yes.  Me too.
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Post  Shortie's Ex Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:01 pm

Ham Flower? wrote:4. Ending malnutrition

I'm for that one too. I'd imagine Jesus would be on board with that also.

Oh Ham Flower this too.  Great minds think alike.  I am so glad that you convinced Mr Jammer to make this list.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:55 am

"I believe that people who receive windfall profits year in and year out by supplying essentials that have no real competition, such as healthcare and oil need to be held accountable to the American people or the government should be able to offer a cheaper alternative if it's possible. "

Bwahahaha. Of course you're only in favor of that when it's somebody else's ox being gored. I'm sure you felt different with your windfall profits from the sky high crop prices of 2011-2013.
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Post  Just Braying It Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:22 am

Apparently they don't teach what the phrase "year in and year out" means at the University of Chicago!

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