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Post  Dr. Evil on Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:25 pm

I think this is absolutely hilarious. For all the Conservative seed that has been spilled on computer keys and smart phone screens over the past several months, it's come down to this...



It turns out the daughter you never had never really existed. She's pro-choice!!

Maybe I should adjust my position a bit here. She's a libertarian, not so much a "constitutionalist" as she claims herself to be. From what I've found, the more people go on about the constitution, the more skewed their opinions are. But then again now she puts herself in the same camp as the people she makes her living calling "snowflakes". So this makes her a hypocrite. Which is exactly what she's trying to avoid in being pro-life. Good gawd I've gone cross eyed thinking about it...

Moral of the story. Don't associate with conservatives, you'll end up a hypocrite every time.

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Post  Shortie's Ex on Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:29 am

Oh Dr Evil, I was just going to post this to JSI, too.

From the horse's mouth [FOX News]:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/03/21/tomi-lahren-suspended-from-theblaze-following-pro-choice-comments-reports-say.html

Stay out of her lady parts too, boys.
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Post  Shortie's Ex on Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:31 am

Dr. Evil wrote:I think this is absolutely hilarious. For all the Conservative seed that has been spilled on computer keys and smart phone screens over the past several months, it's come down to this...

It turns out the daughter you never had never really existed. She's pro-choice!!

Maybe I should adjust my position a bit here. She's a libertarian, not so much a "constitutionalist" as she claims herself to be. From what I've found, the more people go on about the constitution, the more skewed their opinions are. But then again now she puts herself in the same camp as the people she makes her living calling "snowflakes". So this makes her a hypocrite. Which is exactly what she's trying to avoid in being pro-life. Good gawd I've gone cross eyed thinking about it...

Moral of the story. Don't associate with conservatives, you'll end up a hypocrite every time.


ewwwwww. Gross, but probably true.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:01 am

“I’m someone that is for limited government, so I can’t sit here and be a hypocrite and say I’m for limited government, but I think that the government should decide what women do with their bodies,” Lahren said on the show [The View]. “Stay out of my guns, and you can stay out of my body as well.”

Until that show on The View I hadn't heard of her. It appears she is a South Dakotan raised in Rapid City.

A constitutionalist (as she claims to be) would know that the Constitution only limits the Federal government and not necessarily the States. Amendment 10 of the Bill of Rights states "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"). Until Roe v Wade, the States had the power to determine the legality or illegality of abortions, so Tomi Lahren demonstrates her ignorance when she states that she thinks "government should stay out of my body as well" since State governments pre Roe v Wade very much had the power to regulate abortion.

And post Roe consider that under Roe v Wade's three tiered framework and later in Casey v Planned Parenthood's viability timeframe, the SCOTUS held that the government does have an interest in regulating abortion which becomes stronger over the term of a pregnancy and that the "right" to an abortion is certainly not absolute. The feminist argument of stay out of my body is and has always been total BS.

While conservatives may be more ideological consistent on pro-life issues, libertarians aren't without pro-life advocates. Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul are very much pro-life. There certainly is a schism within libertarian thought on the issue of abortion.

Call her a hypocrite if you must but at least be intellectually honest (bwahahahaha) and admit that the pro-choice non-sequitur “Keep Abortion Safe, Legal, and Rare.” is a lie.

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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:07 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:“I’m someone that is for limited government, so I can’t sit here and be a hypocrite and say I’m for limited government, but I think that the government should decide what women do with their bodies,” Lahren said on the show [The View]. “Stay out of my guns, and you can stay out of my body as well.”

Until that show on The View I hadn't heard of her. It appears she is a South Dakotan raised in Rapid City.

You must not be on Facebook.

A constitutionalist (as she claims to be) would know that the Constitution only limits the Federal government and not necessarily the States. Amendment 10 of the Bill of Rights states "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"). Until Roe v Wade, the States had the power to determine the legality or illegality of abortions, so Tomi Lahren demonstrates her ignorance when she states that she thinks "government should stay out of my body as well" since State governments pre Roe v Wade very much had the power to regulate abortion.

If you looked up constitutionalist in the dictionary you may or may not find that a constitutionalist is simply someone who narcissisticly thinks that they have a unique understanding of the Constitution that nobody in our country's history, including judges of all levels, has ever had. They are someone who thinks they know more about the constitution than even our own Supreme Court justices. Go ahead and look it up.

And post Roe consider that under Roe v Wade's three tiered framework and later in Casey v Planned Parenthood's viability timeframe, the SCOTUS held that the government does have an interest in regulating abortion which becomes stronger over the term of a pregnancy and that the "right" to an abortion is certainly not absolute. The feminist argument of stay out of my body is and has always been total BS.

How is that in any way BS?


While conservatives may be more ideological consistent on pro-life issues, libertarians aren't without pro-life advocates.  Both Ron Paul and Rand Paul are very much pro-life. There certainly is a schism within libertarian thought on the issue of abortion.

Libertarians can go either way on a number of issues pertaining to personal life choices. If they come down on the side of the government I question their libertarianism a bit, but then again I guess that's their prerogative. I also realize they have to earn favor with the Republican party if they intend to win elections.

Call her a hypocrite if you must but at least be intellectually honest (bwahahahaha) and admit that the pro-choice non-sequitur “Keep Abortion Safe, Legal, and Rare.” is a lie.

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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:12 pm

Who is Tomi Lahren?
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:58 pm

This is Tomi Lahren...

http://theamericanfirst.com/trump-supporters-show-support-for-tomi-lahren-to-replace-megyn-kelly-on-fox-news/

http://www.theblaze.com/video/glenn-beck-who-will-replace-megyn-kelly-at-fox-news/

https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/54179
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Post  nightlight88 on Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:45 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:This is Tomi Lahren...

http://theamericanfirst.com/trump-supporters-show-support-for-tomi-lahren-to-replace-megyn-kelly-on-fox-newrugs/

http://www.theblaze.com/video/glenn-beck-who-will-replace-megyn-kelly-at-fox-news/

https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/54179


*shrug*

no matter to me, i am not responsible for what she says

but if you want to beat your meat because of her statement about abortion, go for it.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:01 pm

"You must not be on Facebook."

Nope. Never cared for Mark Zuckerberg. Just a guy who lucky building a website from an idea that he stole. Has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen.
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Post  Clicker on Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:55 pm

nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:This is Tomi Lahren...

http://theamericanfirst.com/trump-supporters-show-support-for-tomi-lahren-to-replace-megyn-kelly-on-fox-newrugs/

http://www.theblaze.com/video/glenn-beck-who-will-replace-megyn-kelly-at-fox-news/

https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/54179


*shrug*

no matter to me, i am not responsible for what she says

but if you want to beat your meat because of her statement about abortion, go for it.

Ditto. Never heard of her.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:58 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:"You must not be on Facebook."

Nope. Never cared for Mark Zuckerberg. Just a guy who lucky building a website from an idea that he stole. Has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen.  

Welcome to the tech world.

Steve Jobs in 1996:

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."


I assume you'll be dumping your iPhone as well??
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:06 am

Dr. Evil wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:"You must not be on Facebook."

Nope. Never cared for Mark Zuckerberg. Just a guy who lucky building a website from an idea that he stole. Has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen.  

Welcome to the tech world.

Steve Jobs in 1996:

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."


I assume you'll be dumping your iPhone as well??

Zuckerberg literally stole some of the code that had already been written for the Winklevoss twin's social website "Harvard connection" and as well as the time he spent working on FaceBook when he was suppose to be working on the "Harvard Connection".

While Jobs and Apple might not have always exhibited the "flash of genius" for all of their products, Jobs had the unique ability to integrate inventions and processes that existed such as GUIs, the Mouse and capacitive touchscreens into his vision of the personal computer and/or smartphones. Standing on the shoulders of giants and using existing knowledge is totally different from the theft of computer code and proprietary information in which Zuckerberg engaged.
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Post  Clicker on Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:26 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:"You must not be on Facebook."

Nope. Never cared for Mark Zuckerberg. Just a guy who lucky building a website from an idea that he stole. Has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen.  

Welcome to the tech world.

Steve Jobs in 1996:

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."


I assume you'll be dumping your iPhone as well??

Zuckerberg literally stole some of the code that had already been written for the Winklevoss twin's social website "Harvard connection" and as well as the time he spent working on FaceBook when he was suppose to be working on the "Harvard Connection".

While Jobs and Apple might not have always exhibited the "flash of genius" for all of their products, Jobs had the unique ability to integrate inventions and processes that existed such as GUIs, the Mouse and capacitive touchscreens into his vision of the personal computer and/or smartphones. Standing on the shoulders of giants and using existing knowledge is totally different from the theft of computer code and proprietary information in which Zuckerberg engaged.

Funny. I worked for Xerox when PARC, owned by Xerox, invited Jobs to have a look around. He basically stole everything you mentioned. I think they were recruiting him. They had also invented the lazer printer and let that get away too. They did market it later as part of their network office system tho. The CEO at the time was not interested in anything that wasn't an office copier so it all went to other guys, like Jobs.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:43 am

Clicker wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:"You must not be on Facebook."

Nope. Never cared for Mark Zuckerberg. Just a guy who lucky building a website from an idea that he stole. Has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen.  

Welcome to the tech world.

Steve Jobs in 1996:

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."


I assume you'll be dumping your iPhone as well??

Zuckerberg literally stole some of the code that had already been written for the Winklevoss twin's social website "Harvard connection" and as well as the time he spent working on FaceBook when he was suppose to be working on the "Harvard Connection".

While Jobs and Apple might not have always exhibited the "flash of genius" for all of their products, Jobs had the unique ability to integrate inventions and processes that existed such as GUIs, the Mouse and capacitive touchscreens into his vision of the personal computer and/or smartphones. Standing on the shoulders of giants and using existing knowledge is totally different from the theft of computer code and proprietary information in which Zuckerberg engaged.

Funny. I worked for Xerox when PARC, owned by Xerox, invited Jobs to have a look around.  He basically stole everything you mentioned. I think they were recruiting him.  They had also invented the lazer printer and let that get away too.  They did market it later as part of their network office system tho.  The CEO at the time was not interested in anything that wasn't an office copier so it all went to other guys, like Jobs.

That's the Prometheus Myth about Jobs. Xerox wasn't recruiting Jobs, they were looking to invest in Apple before their IPO. As part of the investment agreement, Xerox was to disclose to Jobs what they were doing at PARC, their research arm. Xerox's technology (especially the mouse) was complicated, expensive, and was not user friendly. Apple engineers changed that just as they changed the GUI.

Here is the first complicating fact about the Jobs visit. In the legend of Xerox PARC, Jobs stole the personal computer from Xerox. But the striking thing about Jobs’s instructions to Hovey is that he didn’t want to reproduce what he saw at PARC. “You know, there were disputes around the number of buttons—three buttons, two buttons, one-button mouse,” Hovey went on. “The mouse at Xerox had three buttons. But we came around to the fact that learning to mouse is a feat in and of itself, and to make it as simple as possible, with just one button, was pretty important.”

So was what Jobs took from Xerox the idea of the mouse? Not quite, because Xerox never owned the idea of the mouse. The PARC researchers got it from the computer scientist Douglas Engelbart, at Stanford Research Institute, fifteen minutes away on the other side of the university campus. Engelbart dreamed up the idea of moving the cursor around the screen with a stand-alone mechanical “animal” back in the mid- nineteen-sixties. His mouse was a bulky, rectangular affair, with what looked like steel roller-skate wheels. If you lined up Engelbart’s mouse, Xerox’s mouse, and Apple’s mouse, you would not see the serial reproduction of an object. You would see the evolution of a concept.

The same is true of the graphical user interface that so captured Jobs’s imagination. Xerox PARC’s innovation had been to replace the traditional computer command line with onscreen icons. But when you clicked on an icon you got a pop-up menu: this was the intermediary between the user’s intention and the computer’s response. Jobs’s software team took the graphical interface a giant step further. It emphasized “direct manipulation.” If you wanted to make a window bigger, you just pulled on its corner and made it bigger; if you wanted to move a window across the screen, you just grabbed it and moved it. The Apple designers also invented the menu bar, the pull-down menu, and the trash can—all features that radically simplified the original Xerox PARC idea.

The difference between direct and indirect manipulation—between three buttons and one button, three hundred dollars and fifteen dollars, and a roller ball supported by ball bearings and a free-rolling ball—is not trivial. It is the difference between something intended for experts, which is what Xerox PARC had in mind, and something that’s appropriate for a mass audience, which is what Apple had in mind. PARC was building a personal computer. Apple wanted to build a popular computer.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/05/16/creation-myth

Also this: Larry Tesler recounts the story of Jobs’ 1979 visit to PARC. Tesler worked at PARC — but seven months later he was hired by Apple to work on the Lisa computer. Start at 30:30.



As I said, standing on the shoulders of giants.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:34 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Clicker wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:"You must not be on Facebook."

Nope. Never cared for Mark Zuckerberg. Just a guy who lucky building a website from an idea that he stole. Has one of the worst user interfaces I've ever seen.  

Welcome to the tech world.

Steve Jobs in 1996:

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."


I assume you'll be dumping your iPhone as well??

Zuckerberg literally stole some of the code that had already been written for the Winklevoss twin's social website "Harvard connection" and as well as the time he spent working on FaceBook when he was suppose to be working on the "Harvard Connection".

While Jobs and Apple might not have always exhibited the "flash of genius" for all of their products, Jobs had the unique ability to integrate inventions and processes that existed such as GUIs, the Mouse and capacitive touchscreens into his vision of the personal computer and/or smartphones. Standing on the shoulders of giants and using existing knowledge is totally different from the theft of computer code and proprietary information in which Zuckerberg engaged.

Funny. I worked for Xerox when PARC, owned by Xerox, invited Jobs to have a look around.  He basically stole everything you mentioned. I think they were recruiting him.  They had also invented the lazer printer and let that get away too.  They did market it later as part of their network office system tho.  The CEO at the time was not interested in anything that wasn't an office copier so it all went to other guys, like Jobs.

That's the Prometheus Myth about Jobs. Xerox wasn't recruiting Jobs, they were looking to invest in Apple before their IPO. As part of the investment agreement, Xerox was to disclose to Jobs what they were doing at PARC, their research arm. Xerox's technology (especially the mouse) was complicated, expensive, and was not user friendly. Apple engineers changed that just as they changed the GUI.

Here is the first complicating fact about the Jobs visit. In the legend of Xerox PARC, Jobs stole the personal computer from Xerox. But the striking thing about Jobs’s instructions to Hovey is that he didn’t want to reproduce what he saw at PARC. “You know, there were disputes around the number of buttons—three buttons, two buttons, one-button mouse,” Hovey went on. “The mouse at Xerox had three buttons. But we came around to the fact that learning to mouse is a feat in and of itself, and to make it as simple as possible, with just one button, was pretty important.”

So was what Jobs took from Xerox the idea of the mouse? Not quite, because Xerox never owned the idea of the mouse. The PARC researchers got it from the computer scientist Douglas Engelbart, at Stanford Research Institute, fifteen minutes away on the other side of the university campus. Engelbart dreamed up the idea of moving the cursor around the screen with a stand-alone mechanical “animal” back in the mid- nineteen-sixties. His mouse was a bulky, rectangular affair, with what looked like steel roller-skate wheels. If you lined up Engelbart’s mouse, Xerox’s mouse, and Apple’s mouse, you would not see the serial reproduction of an object. You would see the evolution of a concept.

The same is true of the graphical user interface that so captured Jobs’s imagination. Xerox PARC’s innovation had been to replace the traditional computer command line with onscreen icons. But when you clicked on an icon you got a pop-up menu: this was the intermediary between the user’s intention and the computer’s response. Jobs’s software team took the graphical interface a giant step further. It emphasized “direct manipulation.” If you wanted to make a window bigger, you just pulled on its corner and made it bigger; if you wanted to move a window across the screen, you just grabbed it and moved it. The Apple designers also invented the menu bar, the pull-down menu, and the trash can—all features that radically simplified the original Xerox PARC idea.

The difference between direct and indirect manipulation—between three buttons and one button, three hundred dollars and fifteen dollars, and a roller ball supported by ball bearings and a free-rolling ball—is not trivial. It is the difference between something intended for experts, which is what Xerox PARC had in mind, and something that’s appropriate for a mass audience, which is what Apple had in mind. PARC was building a personal computer. Apple wanted to build a popular computer.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/05/16/creation-myth

Also this: Larry Tesler recounts the story of Jobs’ 1979 visit to PARC. Tesler worked at PARC — but seven months later he was hired by Apple to work on the Lisa computer. Start at 30:30.



As I said, standing on the shoulders of giants.

Zuckerberg was approached to write code for a website allowing alumni, Harvard and beyond, to easier locate each other and stay in touch. He agreed, then decided to write his own code for himself instead. His 'associates' then sued him for stealing their idea, as you are also claiming he did.....

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-facebook-was-founded-2010-3#

Here's the issue....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_Reunited

It had already been done. And Friends Reunited wasn't the only social networking site out there at the time either, but it may have been the one with the most directly in common. I'm curious....how do you steal something that was already stolen? It was far from an original idea. It's not Zuckerberg's fault they couldn't close the deal.

As I said, welcome to the tech world.
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Post  Darth Cheney on Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:16 pm

The libs love the mega rich but despise the successful people of this nation. Liberalism is such a terrible mental disease which there is no known cure.
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:45 pm

Here's the issue....

It had already been done. And Friends Reunited wasn't the only social networking site out there at the time either, but it may have been the one with the most directly in common. I'm curious....how do you steal something that was already stolen? It was far from an original idea. It's not Zuckerberg's fault they couldn't close the deal.

The "idea" of computer based social networks goes back long before Friends Reunited. Hell, Classmates.com went online in 1995, 5 years before Friends Reunited and is still up and running. The idea that Zuckerberg stole was the one Winklevoss brothers were working on. In fact the Winklevoss idea was already under construction and Zuckerberg willfully delayed the rollout so he could bring Facebook online sooner all the while incorporating (stealing) code from the Winklevoss project into his version. As the Business Insider article chronicles, emails and IMs clearly support that Zuckerberg while working with the Winklevoss brothers, willfully engaged in stalling tactics so he could bring online his Facebook site before Winklevoss. Ideas don't necessarily have to be original, however disclosure of or use of proprietary information from a job/contract is unethical at the very least.
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Post  Dr. Evil on Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:36 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Here's the issue....

It had already been done. And Friends Reunited wasn't the only social networking site out there at the time either, but it may have been the one with the most directly in common. I'm curious....how do you steal something that was already stolen? It was far from an original idea. It's not Zuckerberg's fault they couldn't close the deal.

The "idea" of computer based social networks goes back long before Friends Reunited. Hell, Classmates.com went online in 1995, 5 years before Friends Reunited and is still up and running. The idea that Zuckerberg stole was the one Winklevoss brothers were working on. In fact the Winklevoss idea was already under construction and Zuckerberg willfully delayed the rollout so he could bring Facebook online sooner all the while incorporating (stealing) code from the Winklevoss project into his version. As the Business Insider article chronicles, emails and IMs clearly support that Zuckerberg while working with the Winklevoss brothers, willfully engaged in stalling tactics so he could bring online his Facebook site before Winklevoss. Ideas don't necessarily have to be original, however disclosure of or use of proprietary information from a job/contract is unethical at the very least.

#1 He couldn't have stolen the idea from them because it wasn't theirs to steal.

#2 He couldn't have stolen the code from them because he was the one writing it. He also already had a site of his own that could have merely been retooled.

#3 There's nothing saying they couldn't have still finished their site and made it better than his. Free market and all...

#4 Zuckerberg proved that you don't have to be first to the market to come out on top.

#5 As the judge said, dorm room chat does not constitute an agreement. Not only did Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb not understand writing code, but they didn't understand basic rules of running a business. So much for their overpriced college education. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  Gomezz Adddams on Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Here's the issue....

It had already been done. And Friends Reunited wasn't the only social networking site out there at the time either, but it may have been the one with the most directly in common. I'm curious....how do you steal something that was already stolen? It was far from an original idea. It's not Zuckerberg's fault they couldn't close the deal.

The "idea" of computer based social networks goes back long before Friends Reunited. Hell, Classmates.com went online in 1995, 5 years before Friends Reunited and is still up and running. The idea that Zuckerberg stole was the one Winklevoss brothers were working on. In fact the Winklevoss idea was already under construction and Zuckerberg willfully delayed the rollout so he could bring Facebook online sooner all the while incorporating (stealing) code from the Winklevoss project into his version. As the Business Insider article chronicles, emails and IMs clearly support that Zuckerberg while working with the Winklevoss brothers, willfully engaged in stalling tactics so he could bring online his Facebook site before Winklevoss. Ideas don't necessarily have to be original, however disclosure of or use of proprietary information from a job/contract is unethical at the very least.

#1 He couldn't have stolen the idea from them because it wasn't theirs to steal.

BS. The idea of a social network specifically connecting Harvard students/grads etc was conceived by the Winklevoss bros. Zuckerberg was hired  to write software for the website. He obviously thought it was a great enough of an idea that he worked on his own competing version at the detriment of Winklevoss site.

#2 He couldn't have stolen the code from them because he was the one writing it. He also already had a site of his own that could have merely been retooled.

BS. Zuckerberg was hired to write the code but there already was quite a bit of existing code already written by the previous programmers Sanjay Mavinkurve and Victor Gao encompassing front-end pages, the registration system, a database, back-end coding, and user's handshakes. That is what Zuckerberg stole/"borrowed"/copied for his competing web site.


#3 There's nothing saying they couldn't have still finished their site and made it better than his. Free market and all...

There's nothing saying that Zuckerberg couldn't have started from scratch and built a better website instead of stealing much of his code from HarvardConnection.

#4 Zuckerberg proved that you don't have to be first to the market to come out on top.

BS. Zuckerberg proved exactly that. That's why he delayed HarvardConnection so he could beat the Winklevoss to market.

#5 As the judge said, dorm room chat does not constitute an agreement. Not only did Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb not understand writing code, but they didn't understand basic rules of running a business. So much for their overpriced college education. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

So you have to know how to write computer code if you want to build a website? You can't contract with programmers to do the job? I guess that means building contractors shouldn't hire architects to design buildings and carpenters to build houses. Jeebus

The Winklevosses were economics majors not business majors. I guess the take away from all this is is not to trust back stabbing, mediocre code writers like Zuckerberg.

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Post  Dr. Evil on Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:21 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
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Here's the issue....

It had already been done. And Friends Reunited wasn't the only social networking site out there at the time either, but it may have been the one with the most directly in common. I'm curious....how do you steal something that was already stolen? It was far from an original idea. It's not Zuckerberg's fault they couldn't close the deal.

The "idea" of computer based social networks goes back long before Friends Reunited. Hell, Classmates.com went online in 1995, 5 years before Friends Reunited and is still up and running. The idea that Zuckerberg stole was the one Winklevoss brothers were working on. In fact the Winklevoss idea was already under construction and Zuckerberg willfully delayed the rollout so he could bring Facebook online sooner all the while incorporating (stealing) code from the Winklevoss project into his version. As the Business Insider article chronicles, emails and IMs clearly support that Zuckerberg while working with the Winklevoss brothers, willfully engaged in stalling tactics so he could bring online his Facebook site before Winklevoss. Ideas don't necessarily have to be original, however disclosure of or use of proprietary information from a job/contract is unethical at the very least.

#1 He couldn't have stolen the idea from them because it wasn't theirs to steal.

BS. The idea of a social network specifically connecting Harvard students/grads etc was conceived by the Winklevoss bros. Zuckerberg was hired  to write software for the website. He obviously thought it was a great enough of an idea that he worked on his own competing version at the detriment of Winklevoss site.

Hired? Really?? What'd they offer to pay?


#2 He couldn't have stolen the code from them because he was the one writing it. He also already had a site of his own that could have merely been retooled.

BS. Zuckerberg was hired to write the code but there already was quite a bit of existing code already written by the previous programmers Sanjay Mavinkurve and Victor Gao encompassing front-end pages, the registration system, a database, back-end coding, and user's handshakes. That is what Zuckerberg stole/"borrowed"/copied for his competing web site.


Zuckerberg already had a website that he was forced to shut down. He didn't need their stuff.


#3 There's nothing saying they couldn't have still finished their site and made it better than his. Free market and all...

There's nothing saying that Zuckerberg couldn't have started from scratch and built a better website instead of stealing much of his code from HarvardConnection.

See answer to #2.

#4 Zuckerberg proved that you don't have to be first to the market to come out on top.

BS. Zuckerberg proved exactly that. That's why he delayed HarvardConnection so he could beat the Winklevoss to market.

Zuckerberg beat out the long established social networking sites he was competing against by creating a far superior product. Just that simple.


#5 As the judge said, dorm room chat does not constitute an agreement. Not only did Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb not understand writing code, but they didn't understand basic rules of running a business. So much for their overpriced college education. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

So you have to know how to write computer code if you want to build a website? You can't contract with programmers to do the job? I guess that means building contractors shouldn't hire architects to design buildings and carpenters to build houses. Jeebus

The Winklevosses were economics majors not business majors. I guess the take away from all this is is not to trust back stabbing, mediocre code writers like Zuckerberg.


Employees try to go into business for themselves all the time. Subcontractors circumvent contractors all the time. Welcome to the real world. This is the risk you take when you have the money but lack the skills, or when you've overgrown your ability to oversee all facets of your operation.


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Post  Dr. Evil on Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:34 pm

How can conservative talking head Bill O'Reilly keep his job after settling with 5 different women over sexual harassment accusations, while another conservative talking head Tomi Lahren loses her job for saying that she wants the government to stay out of her body?
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Post  Shortie's Ex on Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:41 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:How can conservative talking head Bill O'Reilly keep his job after settling with 5 different women over sexual harassment accusations...

Because Roger Ailes was his boss. One of those 'pot meet kettle' situations.
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Post  Shortie's Ex on Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:45 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:How can conservative talking head Bill O'Reilly keep his job after settling with 5 different women over sexual harassment accusations, while another conservative talking head Tomi Lahren loses her job for saying that she wants the government to stay out of her body?
And I think we know the answer to this one.  

his job
her job
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Re: Conservative Sweetheart Comes Clean

Post  Darth Cheney on Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:28 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:How can conservative talking head Bill O'Reilly keep his job after settling with 5 different women over sexual harassment accusations, while another conservative talking head Tomi Lahren loses her job for saying that she wants the government to stay out of her body?

I'll hold judgement until something is proven. Every gold digging slut that comes within 100 yards of him would make that claim hoping to get a payoff. It's the oldest scam on earth and the exact reason the Reverend Billy Graham was never alone with any woman, besides his wife, without having someone else present....ever, not even an elevator. You know how many times he was charged with sexual impropriety...none. For far to long a set of large breasts and tight ass were a ticket to a life of leisure. Now the biatches need to work! Ask Shorty...
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Post  Shortie's Ex on Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:43 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:How can conservative talking head Bill O'Reilly keep his job after settling with 5 different women over sexual harassment accusations, while another conservative talking head Tomi Lahren loses her job for saying that she wants the government to stay out of her body?

I'll hold judgement until something is proven. Every gold digging slut that comes within 100 yards of him would make that claim hoping to get a payoff. It's the oldest scam on earth and the exact reason the Reverend Billy Graham was never alone with any woman, besides his wife, without having someone else present....ever, not even an elevator. You know how many times he was charged with sexual impropriety...none. For far to long a set of large breasts and tight ass were a ticket to a life of leisure. Now the biatches need to work! Ask Shorty...

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