Inequality 101

Dr. Jones wrote:

Inequality is a self generated attitude imposed in an attempt to blame others for their own failures.

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Inequality is a self generated phenomenon that has a stranglehold on our economy.

Fixed it for ya.

Interesting how Russell Brand can believe in the "harm principle" (if personal liberties do not cause harm to others, then the state has no power of interference) as espoused by Mills, Locke and Declaration of Rights of Man but rejects the belief in the Natural Right of man to pursue ownership of property (Locke, Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence). Evidently Drunk Recovering Philosophers  are not aware of the contradiction that is posed by belief in self-ownership while advocating for the confiscation of personal property by the State to rid mankind of inequality. Stoopid "Drunk" comedian. And don't get me started on the fallacious argument of the redistribution of wealth will somehow fix an economy. You can't tax your way to prosperity.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Inequality is a self generated phenomenon that has a stranglehold on our economy.

Fixed it for ya.

You have now used projection.  What's next, rationalization?

Gomezz Adddams wrote:Interesting how Stewart Brand can believe in the "harm principle" (if personal liberties do not cause harm to others, then the state has no power of interference) as espoused by Mills, Locke and Declaration of Rights of Man but rejects the belief in the Natural Right of man to pursue ownership of property (Locke, Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence). Evidently Drunk Recovering Philosophers  are not aware of the contradiction that is posed by belief in self-ownership while advocating for the confiscation of personal property by the State to rid mankind of inequality. Stoopid "Drunk" comedian. And don't get me started on the fallacious argument of the redistribution of wealth will somehow fix an economy. You can't tax your way to prosperity.

Wow, I had no idea a statement from a comedian posted in a thread based in comedy would conjure up such intense hostility. It's a simple matter of liquidity.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:Interesting how Russell Brand can believe in the "harm principle" (if personal liberties do not cause harm to others, then the state has no power of interference) as espoused by Mills, Locke and Declaration of Rights of Man but rejects the belief in the Natural Right of man to pursue ownership of property (Locke, Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence). Evidently Drunk Recovering Philosophers  are not aware of the contradiction that is posed by belief in self-ownership while advocating for the confiscation of personal property by the State to rid mankind of inequality. Stoopid "Drunk" comedian. And don't get me started on the fallacious argument of the redistribution of wealth will somehow fix an economy. You can't tax your way to prosperity.

Wow, I had no idea a statement from a comedian posted in a thread based in comedy would conjure up such intense hostility.  It's a simple matter of liquidity.

1) FYI, Russell Brand (for reasons unknown to humanity) has suddenly become a political philosopher extraordinaire (at least in his own mind) and made that statement in an essay explaining in more detail his interview with Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight, a BBC current events program where in the guise of an intellectual he disappoints and comes across as a very disingenuous and naive man as he calls for an utopian revolution. From a person who admits that he has never once voted in his life. Spare me his ignorant political philosophizing.

2) WTF is simply a matter of "liquidity"? The redistribution of wealth by the State?

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:Interesting how Stewart Brand can believe in the "harm principle" (if personal liberties do not cause harm to others, then the state has no power of interference) as espoused by Mills, Locke and Declaration of Rights of Man but rejects the belief in the Natural Right of man to pursue ownership of property (Locke, Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence). Evidently Drunk Recovering Philosophers  are not aware of the contradiction that is posed by belief in self-ownership while advocating for the confiscation of personal property by the State to rid mankind of inequality. Stoopid "Drunk" comedian. And don't get me started on the fallacious argument of the redistribution of wealth will somehow fix an economy. You can't tax your way to prosperity.

Wow, I had no idea a statement from a comedian posted in a thread based in comedy would conjure up such intense hostility.  It's a simple matter of liquidity.

1) FYI, Stewart Brand (for reasons unknown to humanity) has suddenly become a political philosopher extraordinaire (at least in his own mind) and made that statement in an essay explaining in more detail his interview with Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight, a BBC current events program where in the guise of an intellectual he disappoints and comes across as a very disingenuous and naive man as he calls for an utopian revolution. From a person who admits that he has never once voted in his life. Spare me his ignorant political philosophizing.

2) WTF is simply a matter of "liquidity"? The redistribution of wealth by the State?

#1) I put his comments in a section labeled "cartoons" because although they had a certain level if truth to them, he is still just a comedian. To feel in some way threatened by him seems foolish.

#2) "Liquidity" refers to or economy's lack of liquidity.  If people have no money to spend there will be no demand for goods and services.  With no demand for goods and services there is no demand for jobs.  You know the drill.

I propose every man, woman, and child be given 1 million dollars from the government.  Can you imagine the economic boom that would occur and nobody would have to be without.  Everyone...EVERYONE would be a millionaire!  I wonder why nobody has come up with this idea?

Darth Cheney wrote:I propose every man, woman, and child be given 1 million dollars from the government.  Can you imagine the economic boom that would occur and nobody would have to be without.  Everyone...EVERYONE would be a millionaire!  I wonder why nobody has come up with this idea?

That would be a silly idea. The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money.

Dr. Jones wrote:
The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money  

Since you used the phrase, "the people who actually have our money" I have wanted to ask a person such as you who think they have been a victim or been stolen from how much of the money I have earned and saved in my life actually belongs to you.

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:
The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money  

Since you used the phrase, "the people who actually have our money" I have wanted to ask a person such as you who think they have been a victim or been stolen from how much of the money I have earned and saved in my life actually belongs to you.

Do you have more money than several thousand or several hundred thousand other people combined?

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:
The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money  

Since you used the phrase, "the people who actually have our money" I have wanted to ask a person such as you who think they have been a victim or been stolen from how much of the money I have earned and saved in my life actually belongs to you.

Do you have more money than several thousand or several hundred thousand people combined?

If your answer to the question put to you is sufficient then I will consider responding to your deflection.

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:
The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money  

Since you used the phrase, "the people who actually have our money" I have wanted to ask a person such as you who think they have been a victim or been stolen from how much of the money I have earned and saved in my life actually belongs to you.

Do you have more money than several thousand or several hundred thousand people combined?

If your answer to the question put to you is sufficient then I will consider responding to your deflection.

My answer depends on your answer.  If your answer is no, then my answer is nothing.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:
The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money  

Since you used the phrase, "the people who actually have our money" I have wanted to ask a person such as you who think they have been a victim or been stolen from how much of the money I have earned and saved in my life actually belongs to you.

Do you have more money than several thousand or several hundred thousand people combined?

If your answer to the question put to you is sufficient then I will consider responding to your deflection.

My answer depends on your answer.  If your answer is no, then my answer is none.

Why do you think you are entitled to what money other people have?

For example how much of what Bill Gates has do think belongs to you?

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:
The $1M would have to come from the people who actually have our money  

Since you used the phrase, "the people who actually have our money" I have wanted to ask a person such as you who think they have been a victim or been stolen from how much of the money I have earned and saved in my life actually belongs to you.

Do you have more money than several thousand or several hundred thousand people combined?

If your answer to the question put to you is sufficient then I will consider responding to your deflection.

My answer depends on your answer.  If your answer is no, then my answer is none.

Why do you think you are entitled to what money other people have?

For example how much of what Bill Gates has do think belongs to you?

Am I entitled to anything? No. Bill Gates and 399 of his closest friends are worth as much as the bottom 50% of Americans combined. Until you fix that liquidity problem we will continue to kick and sputter.

Dr. Jones wrote: Am I entitled to anything?  No.  Bill Gates and 399 of his closest friends are worth as much as the bottom 50% of Americans combined.  Until you fix that liquidity problem we will continue to kick and sputter.

Mmmmm, then whose money is it that you referred to when you said earlier

The $1M would have to come from those who actually have our money.

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote: Am I entitled to anything?  No.  Bill Gates and 399 of his closest friends are worth as much as the bottom 50% of Americans combined.  Until you fix that liquidity problem we will continue to kick and sputter.

Mmmmm, then whose money is it that you referred to when you said earlier

The $1M would have to come from those who actually have our money.

Our money from our economy. Yours and mine.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote: Am I entitled to anything?  No.  Bill Gates and 399 of his closest friends are worth as much as the bottom 50% of Americans combined.  Until you fix that liquidity problem we will continue to kick and sputter.

Mmmmm, then whose money is it that you referred to when you said earlier

The $1M would have to come from those who actually have our money.

Our money from our economy.  Yours and mine.

Why couldn't you just say so from the beginning you do think some of the money people like Bill Gates has earned over the years belongs to you?

And that is the difference between me and people like you who put their life and well being in the care of the government and scream for income equality.

Bill Gates took chances a lot of people would never have taken and it has rewarded him.

I hope you never tire of waiting for the government to make you equal with those you think have money belonging to you.

Back to an earlier session, to the best of my knowledge my assets are in the six figures.  Now I will not say whether in the low, middle or high.  Now how much of my assets do you claim belongs to you?

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote: Am I entitled to anything?  No.  Bill Gates and 399 of his closest friends are worth as much as the bottom 50% of Americans combined.  Until you fix that liquidity problem we will continue to kick and sputter.

Mmmmm, then whose money is it that you referred to when you said earlier

The $1M would have to come from those who actually have our money.

Our money from our economy.  Yours and mine.

Why couldn't you just say so from the beginning you do think some of the money people like Bill Gates has earned over the years belongs to you?

And that is the difference between me and people like you who put their life and well being in the care of the government and scream for income equality.

Bill Gates took chances a lot of people would never have taken and it has rewarded him.

I hope you never tire of waiting for the government to make you equal with those you think have money belonging to you.

Back to an earlier session, to the best of my knowledge my assets are in the six figures.  Now I will not say whether in the low, middle or high.  Now how much of my assets do you claim belongs to you?

Did you even read my posts?  I said that I as an individual do not feel entitled to the money. I said that our economy needs that money to function.  I made no implications as to how we go about making that happen. I have no idea where your post is coming from, except to stand on your soap box and accuse me of things I never said.

Dr. Jones wrote:  Did you even read my posts?  I said that I as an individual do not feel entitled to the money. I said that our economy needs that money to function.  I made no implications as to how we go about making that happen. I have no idea where your post is coming from, except to stand on your soap box and accuse me of things I never said.

Hey, wasn't Obama's almost one billion dollar stimulus supposed to get the economy and jobs going creating this "liquidity" you are obsessed with?  Why are you blaming the stagnation on people like Bill Gates?

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:  Did you even read my posts?  I said that I as an individual do not feel entitled to the money. I said that our economy needs that money to function.  I made no implications as to how we go about making that happen. I have no idea where your post is coming from, except to stand on your soap box and accuse me of things I never said.

Extreme
Hey, wasn't Obama's almost one billion dollar stimulus supposed to get the economy and jobs going creating this "liquidity" you are obsessed with?  Why are you blaming the stagnation on people like Bill Gates?

Bill Gates could never create enough jobs or spend enough to offset what our economy has invested in him.  In his defense, he is extremely charitable but it's still a small part of his fortune.  As I have said my thoughts are not a matter of jealousy or entitlement, but strictly about the numbers.  As far as the stimulus it was just a short term fix.  Did not get at the root of the problem.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:  Did you even read my posts?  I said that I as an individual do not feel entitled to the money. I said that our economy needs that money to function.  I made no implications as to how we go about making that happen. I have no idea where your post is coming from, except to stand on your soap box and accuse me of things I never said.

Extreme
Hey, wasn't Obama's almost one billion dollar stimulus supposed to get the economy and jobs going creating this "liquidity" you are obsessed with?  Why are you blaming the stagnation on people like Bill Gates?

Bill Gates could never create enough jobs or spend enough to offset what our economy has invested in him.  In his defense, he is extremely charitable but it's still a small part of his fortune.  As I have said my thoughts are not a matter of jealousy or entitlement, but strictly about the numbers.  As far as the stimulus it was just a short term fix.  Did not get at the root of the problem.

Pray tell how exactly has our economy invested in him? My goodness you are an idiot aren't you?

Darth Cheney wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:  Did you even read my posts?  I said that I as an individual do not feel entitled to the money. I said that our economy needs that money to function.  I made no implications as to how we go about making that happen. I have no idea where your post is coming from, except to stand on your soap box and accuse me of things I never said.

Extreme
Hey, wasn't Obama's almost one billion dollar stimulus supposed to get the economy and jobs going creating this "liquidity" you are obsessed with?  Why are you blaming the stagnation on people like Bill Gates?

Bill Gates could never create enough jobs or spend enough to offset what our economy has invested in him.  In his defense, he is extremely charitable but it's still a small part of his fortune.  As I have said my thoughts are not a matter of jealousy or entitlement, but strictly about the numbers.  As far as the stimulus it was just a short term fix.  Did not get at the root of the problem.

Pray tell how exactly has our economy invested in him? My goodness you are an idiot aren't you?

Don't waste my time...

Dr. Jones wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:  Did you even read my posts?  I said that I as an individual do not feel entitled to the money. I said that our economy needs that money to function.  I made no implications as to how we go about making that happen. I have no idea where your post is coming from, except to stand on your soap box and accuse me of things I never said.

Extreme
Hey, wasn't Obama's almost one billion dollar stimulus supposed to get the economy and jobs going creating this "liquidity" you are obsessed with?  Why are you blaming the stagnation on people like Bill Gates?

Bill Gates could never create enough jobs or spend enough to offset what our economy has invested in him.  In his defense, he is extremely charitable but it's still a small part of his fortune.  As I have said my thoughts are not a matter of jealousy or entitlement, but strictly about the numbers.  As far as the stimulus it was just a short term fix.  Did not get at the root of the problem.

Pray tell how exactly has our economy invested in him? My goodness you are an idiot aren't you?

Don't waste my time...

The solution to your problem is crystal clear.  Just get all the greedy and selfish guys like Bill Gates together and give them the old low down how they are responsible for the lack of "liquidity" and tell them what they need to do.

No doubt you will win the Nobel Prize for Economics