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Post  Dr. Evil Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:13 pm

I couldn't agree more. I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public. What are your thoughts? I


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Post  Darth Cheney Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:15 am

Dr. Jones wrote:I couldn't agree more.  I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public.  What are your thoughts?  I


Rick Perry: Let us take whoour guns to the movies
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html

"Rigorous" defined by who...liberals. Show me how many CC licenses citizens have committed crimes dipshiste.
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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:25 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:I couldn't agree more.  I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public.  What are your thoughts?  I


Rick Perry: Let us take whoour guns to the movies
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html

"Rigorous" defined by who...liberals. Show me how many CC licenses citizens have committed crimes dipshiste.  


I believe that the people who commit these horrendous acts are from the following groups:

1.  Illegal immigrants
2.  Progressive liberal criminals
3.  Mentally deranged people
4.  Muslim terrorists

I think the best solution is to get rid of all 4 groups.  Ship the illegals back to their country of origin.  Lower the bar on what is a capital crime and give these people the needle.  What the heck, it is not like this planet has a shortage of people.  Convert the freed up space in prison from executing these criminals and use it to house these nut jobs and get them off the street.   This would also allow us to stop all the disability benefits these nut jobs receive.   And finally, let’s help every single Muslim terrorist obtain their 72 virgins just as quickly as possible.


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Post  nightlight88 Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:27 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:I couldn't agree more.  I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public.  What are your thoughts?  I


Rick Perry: Let us take whoour guns to the movies
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html

"Rigorous" defined by who...liberals. Show me how many CC licenses citizens have committed crimes dipshiste.


I am sure 'rigorous' to the left means 'impossible to achieve'
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:14 am

Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good. I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up. I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.

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Post  nightlight88 Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:40 am

Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


There in lies the whole problem.

YOU think you can judge who can or cannot have the permit.

According to your idol big sis, we veterans are incapable of handling, thus owning, guns.

So gfys.
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Post  nightlight88 Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:42 am

Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


On a second note, HOW does one PROVE that you won't do more harm than good.

Obama promised no harm, but look how he has harmed this country.
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:04 am

Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.

Heck, your so-called safe "gun free" zones haven't been a model of efficiency have they?

Look how many people you allowed into your "gun free zones" with guns intent on killing innocent people and did kill innocent people !
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:31 am

nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


There in lies the whole problem.

YOU think you can judge who can or cannot have the permit.

According to your idol big sis, we veterans are incapable of handling, thus owning, guns.

So gfys.

How about we start with active military?  Then move to national guard?  How about we let off duty cops carry weapons. That seems pretty straight forward.

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Post  Jammer Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:02 am

Why do conservatives even attempt to communicate with these evil socialist cretins? They are liars plain and simple. If you allow yourself to communicate with them you will eventually believe something they say and later regret it. Something like: “If you like your healthcare insurance, you can keep your healthcare insurance – if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”.

These people are liars – PERIOD. Communicate with them at your peril. Sometimes it is just necessary to learn the hard way, I guess.
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:09 am

Dr. Jones wrote:
nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


There in lies the whole problem.

YOU think you can judge who can or cannot have the permit.

According to your idol big sis, we veterans are incapable of handling, thus owning, guns.

So gfys.

How about we start with active military?  Then move to national guard?  How about we let off duty cops carry weapons.  That seems pretty straight forward.

Hell, you worry more about the law abiding folks who have completed a background check and legally bought a gun than you are about those who possess a gun illegally, don't care a rats ass about some "gun free zone" sign and go into such places and kill people !
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:25 am

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


There in lies the whole problem.

YOU think you can judge who can or cannot have the permit.

According to your idol big sis, we veterans are incapable of handling, thus owning, guns.

So gfys.

How about we start with active military?  Then move to national guard?  How about we let off duty cops carry weapons.  That seems pretty straight forward.

Hell, you worry more about the law abiding folks who have completed a background check and legally bought a gun than you are about those who possess a gun illegally, don't care a rats ass about some "gun free zone" sign and go into such places and kill people !

I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:29 am

Jammer wrote:Why do conservatives even attempt to communicate with these evil socialist cretins?  They are liars plain and simple.  If you allow yourself to communicate with them you will eventually believe something they say and later regret it.  Something like: “If you like your healthcare insurance, you can keep your healthcare insurance – if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”.

These people are liars – PERIOD.   Communicate with them at your peril.  Sometimes it is just necessary to learn the hard way, I guess.

You don't think our military personnel is up to the job?

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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:45 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:I couldn't agree more.  I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public.  What are your thoughts?  I


Rick Perry: Let us take whoour guns to the movies
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html

"Rigorous" defined by who...liberals. Show me how many CC licenses citizens have committed crimes dipshiste.

There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing. Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

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Post  nightlight88 Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:41 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:I couldn't agree more.  I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public.  What are your thoughts?  I


Rick Perry: Let us take whoour guns to the movies
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html

"Rigorous" defined by who...liberals. Show me how many CC licenses citizens have committed crimes dipshiste.

There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.


Oh really?

And you know this how?

Daily Kos, Media Matters, and Alternet?
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Post  Darth Cheney Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:56 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.

George Zimmerman legally shot and killed a criminal who was beating him. You have proven again you are nothing but a dumb ass. Thank God that piece of shiste he shot is no longer a threat to people like yourself and your family.
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Post  Darth Cheney Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:59 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


There in lies the whole problem.

YOU think you can judge who can or cannot have the permit.

According to your idol big sis, we veterans are incapable of handling, thus owning, guns.

So gfys.

How about we start with active military?  Then move to national guard?  How about we let off duty cops carry weapons.  That seems pretty straight forward.

The police have a much higher rate of criminal offenses than concealed carry holders if you want to be educated.
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:43 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:
nightlight88 wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:Rigorous enough that you can prove you won't do more harm than good.  I don't think any of you guys need to get your hopes up.  I'm not about to give any George Zimmerman types the green light to come anywhere near myself or my family with a loaded gun.


There in lies the whole problem.

YOU think you can judge who can or cannot have the permit.

According to your idol big sis, we veterans are incapable of handling, thus owning, guns.

So gfys.

How about we start with active military?  Then move to national guard?  How about we let off duty cops carry weapons.  That seems pretty straight forward.

Hell, you worry more about the law abiding folks who have completed a background check and legally bought a gun than you are about those who possess a gun illegally, don't care a rats ass about some "gun free zone" sign and go into such places and kill people !

I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Why is it not surprising you haven't a clue ??
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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:44 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:I couldn't agree more.  I would be more than happy to allow those who are willing to subject themselves to rigorous and ongoing training carry anywhere in public.  What are your thoughts?  I


Rick Perry: Let us take whoour guns to the movies
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/26/politics/rick-perry-gun-free-zones-movie-theaters/index.html

"Rigorous" defined by who...liberals. Show me how many CC licenses citizens have committed crimes dipshiste.

There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

NAMES ??

DATES ???

PLACES ???

MOST OF ALL ..... LINKS TO THE STORIES ABOUT THESE PEOPLE YOU REFER,
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:16 pm

From today:

Idiots with guns, in a state that celebrates them.

911 call: 'He killed my husband!'
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/us/florida-road-rage-killing/index.html

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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:03 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:From today:

Idiots with guns, in a state that celebrates them.

911 call: 'He killed my husband!'
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/us/florida-road-rage-killing/index.html

I will give you negative credit for your attempt to insert this unfortunate incident into
There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

The fact remains this horrendous act was not the actions of a law abiding person legally carrying a gun who made a situation worse, rather more like Mr. Doyle created the deadly situation!

So, by all means be our guest to provide the NAMES, DATES, PLACES, THE LINKS TO THE STORIES ABOUT THESE PEOPLE YOU REFER, YOU KNOW THES YOU CLAIM
There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.
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Post  Dr. Evil Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:19 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:From today:

Idiots with guns, in a state that celebrates them.

911 call: 'He killed my husband!'
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/us/florida-road-rage-killing/index.html

I will give you negative credit for your attempt to insert this unfortunate incident into

Unfortunate incident?!? WTF???

There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

The fact remains this horrendous act was not the actions of a law abiding person legally carrying a gun who made a situation worse!

No, that's exactly what it was.  You are looking at the inconvenient truth behind CC/SYG laws in all their glory.

So, by all means be our guest to provide the NAMES, DATES, PLACES, THE LINKS TO THE STORIES ABOUT THESE PEOPLE YOU REFER, YOU KNOW THES YOU CLAIM


You already got it...


There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

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Post  Skeptical Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:58 pm

Dr. Jones wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Jones wrote:From today:

Idiots with guns, in a state that celebrates them.

911 call: 'He killed my husband!'
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/27/us/florida-road-rage-killing/index.html

I will give you negative credit for your attempt to insert this unfortunate incident into

Unfortunate incident?!? WTF???

There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

The fact remains this horrendous act was not the actions of a law abiding person legally carrying a gun who made a situation worse!

No, that's exactly what it was.  You are looking at the inconvenient truth behind CC/SYG laws in all their glory.

So, by all means be our guest to provide the NAMES, DATES, PLACES, THE LINKS TO THE STORIES ABOUT THESE PEOPLE YOU REFER, YOU KNOW THES YOU CLAIM


You already got it...


There are plenty of people who carry that have no clue what they are doing.  Some shoot in an unsafe manner, some needlessly escalate a situation, some choose their moves poorly and actually help criminals.

My bad, it was Mr. Gonzalez who escalated the situation by following Mr. Doyle to his home even though he was told,  "No, no, no."by the 911 operator.

You disappoint us .. the expectations were for you to provide link after link after link after link about stories about, oh say a mall or theater shooting where a legal concealed carry person added to the death/injury and/or helped the shooter.
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Post  Dr. Evil Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:56 am

Here's a nice article on concealed carry. It talks about doing it for the right reasons. Having the mental capacity to do it. It also talks about the fact that sometimes a keen eye and a cell phone are much more effective.


http://m.policemag.com/article/2908/common-sense-concealed-carry

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Post  nightlight88 Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:07 am

Dr. Jones wrote:Here's a nice article on concealed carry.  It talks about doing it for the right reasons.  Having the mental capacity to do it.  It also talks about the fact that sometimes a keen eye and a cell phone are much more effective.


http://m.policemag.com/article/2908/common-sense-concealed-carry


Who gets to determine what the "right reasons" are?

From the gist of your posts, YOU think you are the one to determine what these "right reasons" are.

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