What your neighbors may not know, but maybe should:

Jammer wrote:

Clicker wrote:

Jammer wrote:
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Follow-up thought/question:  Who gave assurances that the property would be developed as residential?  Should they bear any liability for misrepresenting the issue?

Sorry I missed this before.  The assurances were given by both RE types and a local Politician.  A Rep by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!! I later ran into him at a Tea Party meeting and reminded him of his statement about the land use next door.  The guy couldn't get away from me fast enough. He's no longer in political office, replaced by a moderate woman who is a bit wishy washy but honest in her statements about things she can control.

Yeah, typical story.  We have bought several houses over the years and have often heard similar stories when we asked "what's going in next door".  For awhile I believed them and later on I came to realize that talk is cheap and if it is really an important issue, I ask to see it in writing.

Clicker wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Clicker wrote:

Jammer wrote:
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Follow-up thought/question:  Who gave assurances that the property would be developed as residential?  Should they bear any liability for misrepresenting the issue?

Sorry I missed this before.  The assurances were given by both RE types and a local Politician.  A Rep by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!! I later ran into him at a Tea Party meeting and reminded him of his statement about the land use next door.  The guy couldn't get away from me fast enough. He's no longer in political office, replaced by a moderate woman who is a bit wishy washy but honest in her statements about things she can control.

Yeah, typical story.  We have bought several houses over the years and have often heard similar stories when we asked "what's going in next door".  For awhile I believed them and later on I came to realize that talk is cheap and if it is really an important issue, I ask to see it in writing.

I've learned that the only way to control what happens next door is to own it.  I've seen that here in the Ozarks, people will buy the land next door to protect themselves from encroachment.  By the way, these people are usually from a far more regulated environment than that we have here.  Kinda like anti-gun libs getting caught carrying a concealed weapon illegally.

I've learned that the only way to control what happens next door is to own it.

Jammer wrote:That is interesting, I would have thought that someone might have asked “what do we say when our neighbors ask where we currently are on this 0%-100% spectrum”?  After all, if you are going to talk about this with your friends and neighbors, it is only natural to speculate ahead of time on what their questions might be.  Perhaps nobody gives a shite?

Oh well, on the outside chance that somebody cares; there are probably several answers to that potential question.  There have been a few methods established to determine where we are on the road to tyranny such as the RAC index.  However, I find them all quite confusing and difficult.  Therefore, I have decided to rely on good old fashioned common sense.

When somebody asks me that question, I tell them to think about the property they own.  It could be a home, a farm, a business or anything at all that is considered property.  Then I tell them to think about how much THEY AS AN INDIVIDUAL have the ability to CONTROL, USE AND ENJOY IT.

If taxes, regulations and other restrictions are prohibiting them from compete control and use of their property, we are moving toward tyranny.  On the other hand, if they are worried about fraud, vandalism or theft of their property, we are moving in the direction of anarchy.   And whenever there is new legislation being proposed, just what direction does it change your ability to control, use and enjoy your property.

When you think about this concept, it probably helps to explain why heavy urban centers like Detroit, Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles or any other major metropolitan area continues to vote for demonrats who want to fundamentally change America into a communist cesspool.  Very few of these people actually own any property.  Therefore, they never feel or experience the pain that their vote results in.  On the opposite side of this equation are the people who live in suburbs and more rural areas.  They are much more inclined to vote Republican.  They are property owners and subconsciously feel the pain of tyranny as their property rights are eroded.  Maybe you can help you “low information” neighbors understand this simple concept.  

Darth Cheney wrote:He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security. ... The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (1907)

Almost all people live their lives oblivious of their freedom or threat of losing it. Until it is completely gone they remain uninterested. Visit Venezuela libs...


"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian", Henry Ford.

After all the instances of incompetence at the point of hundreds of people actually dying waiting to receive their government healthcare...why would anyone think a single payer plan would be good or that government is even capable of providing those services? Once the government holds within its hands the ability to determine if you or your loved ones live or die...all is lost.

thehenryford.org wrote:The list includes quotations that have been traced to a primary source or a reliable secondary source. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be a published interview with or other direct quotations of Henry Ford in newspapers contemporary to him, including but in no way limited to house organs such as the Ford Times and Ford News, or a book whose ghostwriting or collaboration was authorized by Henry Ford. If you are searching for a quote and do not see it in the attached list, it means that staff was not able to trace it to a reliable source.

Clicker wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Clicker wrote:On the subject of regulation.  I live much of the year in Mo. There is very little regulation with hard rules in the state as regards property usage.  We live next to a rock quarry (1/4 mi or so) and many of the residents are up in arms about noise, dust etc.  We were there first I might add.  Many of the neighbors are from the north and NE and are used to very restrictive zoning and regulation rules.  They are also used to being able to petition and get results from politicians and pubic servants.  Not true here.  They love living in a restriction free environment until it causes them a bit of inconvenience.  When we came here, we were impressed with the low land prices and low taxes etc. We had a house built with virtually no permits or inspections needed. The only issues were having the well water tested and the septic system certified. Here, in rural areas, you are still able to do pretty much what you want with your property.  

LIBERTY    

The people you mention are the same people who move into a house right next to an airport and then start a petition to have the airport change their flight patterns because it is too noisy for them.

We, meaning the pissed off residents were there first and had assurances that the property next door would be developed as residential in the future.  The land was then zoned for farm and forestry as it was heavily wooded with Oak, Cedar, Black Walnut and Maple.  The land was cleared and development was started on a commercial storage lot and that was OK too.  Then we started getting blasting about every week and that painted a different picture.  I'm OK with the quarry as I knew about the land use rules here but the transplants from more Liberal states with strangulation regulation were flummoxed!!!!!

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security. ... The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (1907)

Almost all people live their lives oblivious of their freedom or threat of losing it. Until it is completely gone they remain uninterested. Visit Venezuela libs...


"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian", Henry Ford.

After all the instances of incompetence at the point of hundreds of people actually dying waiting to receive their government healthcare...why would anyone think a single payer plan would be good or that government is even capable of providing those services? Once the government holds within its hands the ability to determine if you or your loved ones live or die...all is lost.

Except there is no evidence that Henry Ford actually said this.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-quotes/

Note this disclaimer

thehenryford.org wrote:The list includes quotations that have been traced to a primary source or a reliable secondary source. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be a published interview with or other direct quotations of Henry Ford in newspapers contemporary to him, including but in no way limited to house organs such as the Ford Times and Ford News, or a book whose ghostwriting or collaboration was authorized by Henry Ford. If you are searching for a quote and do not see it in the attached list, it means that staff was not able to trace it to a reliable source.

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security. ... The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (1907)

Almost all people live their lives oblivious of their freedom or threat of losing it. Until it is completely gone they remain uninterested. Visit Venezuela libs...


"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian", Henry Ford.

After all the instances of incompetence at the point of hundreds of people actually dying waiting to receive their government healthcare...why would anyone think a single payer plan would be good or that government is even capable of providing those services? Once the government holds within its hands the ability to determine if you or your loved ones live or die...all is lost.

Except there is no evidence that Henry Ford actually said this.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-quotes/

Note this disclaimer

thehenryford.org wrote:The list includes quotations that have been traced to a primary source or a reliable secondary source. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be a published interview with or other direct quotations of Henry Ford in newspapers contemporary to him, including but in no way limited to house organs such as the Ford Times and Ford News, or a book whose ghostwriting or collaboration was authorized by Henry Ford. If you are searching for a quote and do not see it in the attached list, it means that staff was not able to trace it to a reliable source.

Secretary of Interior James Watt said it better, “If you want an example of the failure of socialism, don't go to Russia, come to America and go to the Indian reservations.”. Boy, did he hit the nail on the head.

Darth Cheney wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security. ... The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (1907)

Almost all people live their lives oblivious of their freedom or threat of losing it. Until it is completely gone they remain uninterested. Visit Venezuela libs...


"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian", Henry Ford.

After all the instances of incompetence at the point of hundreds of people actually dying waiting to receive their government healthcare...why would anyone think a single payer plan would be good or that government is even capable of providing those services? Once the government holds within its hands the ability to determine if you or your loved ones live or die...all is lost.

Except there is no evidence that Henry Ford actually said this.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-quotes/

Note this disclaimer

thehenryford.org wrote:The list includes quotations that have been traced to a primary source or a reliable secondary source. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be a published interview with or other direct quotations of Henry Ford in newspapers contemporary to him, including but in no way limited to house organs such as the Ford Times and Ford News, or a book whose ghostwriting or collaboration was authorized by Henry Ford. If you are searching for a quote and do not see it in the attached list, it means that staff was not able to trace it to a reliable source.

Secretary of Interior James Watt said it better, “If you want an example of the failure of socialism, don't go to Russia, come to America and go to the Indian reservations.”. Boy, did he hit the nail on the head.

Rather than discuss the actual reality...it is better for a liberal to challenge the source of the quote. Their methodology is sooooo worn out.

Darth Cheney wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security. ... The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (1907)

Almost all people live their lives oblivious of their freedom or threat of losing it. Until it is completely gone they remain uninterested. Visit Venezuela libs...


"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian", Henry Ford.

After all the instances of incompetence at the point of hundreds of people actually dying waiting to receive their government healthcare...why would anyone think a single payer plan would be good or that government is even capable of providing those services? Once the government holds within its hands the ability to determine if you or your loved ones live or die...all is lost.

Except there is no evidence that Henry Ford actually said this.



https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-quotes/

Note this disclaimer

thehenryford.org wrote:The list includes quotations that have been traced to a primary source or a reliable secondary source. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be a published interview with or other direct quotations of Henry Ford in newspapers contemporary to him, including but in no way limited to house organs such as the Ford Times and Ford News, or a book whose ghostwriting or collaboration was authorized by Henry Ford. If you are searching for a quote and do not see it in the attached list, it means that staff was not able to trace it to a reliable source.

Secretary of Interior James Watt said it better, “If you want an example of the failure of socialism, don't go to Russia, come to America and go to the Indian reservations.”. Boy, did he hit the nail on the head.

Rather than discuss the actual reality...it is better for a liberal to challenge the source of the quote. Their methodology is sooooo worn out.

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Darth Cheney wrote:He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security. ... The Writings of Benjamin Franklin (1907)

Almost all people live their lives oblivious of their freedom or threat of losing it. Until it is completely gone they remain uninterested. Visit Venezuela libs...


"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian", Henry Ford.

After all the instances of incompetence at the point of hundreds of people actually dying waiting to receive their government healthcare...why would anyone think a single payer plan would be good or that government is even capable of providing those services? Once the government holds within its hands the ability to determine if you or your loved ones live or die...all is lost.

Except there is no evidence that Henry Ford actually said this.

https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-resources/popular-topics/henry-ford-quotes/

Note this disclaimer

thehenryford.org wrote:The list includes quotations that have been traced to a primary source or a reliable secondary source. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be a published interview with or other direct quotations of Henry Ford in newspapers contemporary to him, including but in no way limited to house organs such as the Ford Times and Ford News, or a book whose ghostwriting or collaboration was authorized by Henry Ford. If you are searching for a quote and do not see it in the attached list, it means that staff was not able to trace it to a reliable source.

Secretary of Interior James Watt said it better, “If you want an example of the failure of socialism, don't go to Russia, come to America and go to the Indian reservations.”. Boy, did he hit the nail on the head.

Rather than discuss the actual reality...it is better for a liberal to challenge the source of the quote. Their methodology is sooooo worn out.

But, if Henry Ford did not utter these words, what is the actual reality ? Maybe you better go discuss alternative facts with Kellyanne. LOL.

Jammer wrote:

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I think we should inform our neighbors what EBT cards look like so they can spot them when they are being used in stores.  They will probably spot the same things that I often see.  The people using them usually are:

Wearing expensive jewelry
Using their latest and newest iPhone
Displaying several different tattoos and maybe body piercings
The women will often have professional manicures and sculptured nails
Most likely single and not married
But have several children in tow all wearing expensive tennis shoes

So, when your neighbors see the Sleazy Slut pull out her EBT card




to pay for food items and then use cash or a different card to purchase her alcohol and tobacco products, they will know that THEY PAID FOR HER FOOD.

Clicker wrote:

Jammer wrote:

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I think we should inform our neighbors what EBT cards look like so they can spot them when they are being used in stores.  They will probably spot the same things that I often see.  The people using them usually are:

Wearing expensive jewelry
Using their latest and newest iPhone
Displaying several different tattoos and maybe body piercings
The women will often have professional manicures and sculptured nails
Most likely single and not married
But have several children in tow all wearing expensive tennis shoes

So, when your neighbors see the Sleazy Slut pull out her EBT card




to pay for food items and then use cash or a different card to purchase her alcohol and tobacco products, they will know that THEY PAID FOR HER FOOD.

I would like to see a return to what was in force back in the 60s in Calif. People who qualified based on income were allowed to "shop" at a store that had only "commodities". Bulk rice, cheese etc were available. The products were surplus bought by the Govt to keep production and prices at a certain level. They were stored for a number of years and then released to the "needy".  People were still stigmatized by their need to use that store etc but there were not nearly as many as today.  The rollover of govt to a more liberal position created the psychobabble of class distinction, segregation, and stigmatizing minority groups etc and the Food Stamps/EBT system was created to make those on the dole appear to be no different from any others.  Merchants were complicite in this because it took the "free" stuff off the market and brought more customers into the store with no fear of fraud on the part of the customer costing them any money.  Another good program that was killed by liberalism was the prison work programs. A coupe of which were clothing manufacturing operation that made goods under contract to the govt.  One prison shop made shoes that were distributed free to the needy.  The clothing mfgrs were against these programs and they, coupled with the prison reformers killed them. Ironically, the clothing businesses were put out of business in the USA by foreign competition and the liberal run prison systems have produced a class of "entitled" inmates that can't be managed.  

PERFECTLY STATED - I AGREE 100%

Jammer wrote:
I think we should inform our neighbors what EBT cards look like so they can spot them when they are being used in stores, including Cabela's [gotta get those Cabela's Club points !].

Jammer wrote:

A picture of your typical repressive liberal out using her EBT card.

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK FOR YOU

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Jammer wrote:

A picture of your typical repressive liberal out using her EBT card.

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK FOR YOU

Photoshopped fake news internet meme.  Obviously.

Jammer wrote:

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I recently was at an event where they played the National Anthem.  For some reason, as I listened to the ending “LAND OF THE FREE and home of the brave”, a very interesting thought came to me.  I began to think about all the recent conversations with either a friend or neighbor where they told me a story about having to GET PERMISSION to do something.

Probably the biggest issue was over a relative having to get permission to ditch their farmland to prevent widespread damage to crops during brief periods of heavy rain.  It was not ditching to drain a lake or even a small slough, but it was ditching to prevent several acre size spots often in the corners of the field from pooing up for several weeks after a heavy rain.  But as I thought about it, the need for permission was quite widespread.

Give it some thought, just how often have you heard somebody tell you a story about needing to get a permit (permission) to do something almost irrelevant.  Many states have onerous requirements to obtain occupational licenses.  The craziest story I heard was from someone I didn’t know.  It was a lady making a presentation at a meeting several years ago.  I forget what state she was from.  However, she wanted to braid hair and open up a business to offer that service but her state did not allow it because she was required to have an occupational license to braid hair.

First off, she needed to go to cosmetology school for a certain period of time at a cost of thousands of dollars to get a cosmetology certificate (or whatever they called it).  Well not only couldn’t she afford it, but there was not a single cosmetology school near her that taught hair braiding.  So this certificate she needed in order to get PERMISSION to braid hair was not going to teach her one single thing about braiding hair.  Never mind that she had been doing it for years for her friends and relatives as was very good at it.

That was just one example, but I thought of many others.  In any event, I now know what I am going to talk about the next time I have a friend or neighbor tell me one of these stories about needing permission to do something.

A TRULY FREE PERSON DOES NOT ASK FOR PERMISSION

IT IS TIME TO GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES

IT IS TIME TO END REPRESSIVE LIBERALISM