Obama: Our Energy President

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

If Hamm doesn't want to ramp up his production in Bakken with oil prices rebounding, that's his business. But I bet he does when the Texans start bringing on all that new production out of the newly discovered reserves in the Permian Basin. Unlike Russia or OPEC, in the US the market will decide how much oil we'll have.

http://www.reporternews.com/story/money/business/2016/11/15/west-texas-oil-discovery-called-largest-ever/93931422/

Jammer wrote:I see that Jackoff Jones has been on the forum since I challenged him to list the things that Obama did to increase oil production in the US but he failed to respond.  That means one of 2 things, he is either busy Googling away trying to come up with something or he has crawled back under his rock because it is apparent that once again he has been shown to be a blatant liar.

I am betting that he can't come up with any VALID responses.  The key word being VALID as we all know repressive liberals LIE and spread FAKE NEWS.

Dr. Evil wrote:Good gawd man!! Obsess much?? Some of us have jobs. Go molest some kids, I'll get back to you when I have time.

Jammer wrote:Still nothing from the lying sack of dogshit Jackoff Jones.  He is a worthless piece of scum who will lie to advance his evil agenda of communism and support his elitist handlers Obama and George Soros.  Imagine how utterly dishonest this asshole is when he starts a thread honoring Obama as our ENERGY PRESIDENT.   The only honor Obama has achieved is that he is the biggest FAILURE to occupy the White House.

Here are some data points on what Obama did for energy in this country.

Cancelled artic drilling leases
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/257191-obama-cancels-arctic-drilling-lease-sales

Halted the Keystone XL pipeline
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-reject-keystone-pipeline/2015/11/06/id/700913/

Halted Dakota Access pipeline
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-reject-keystone-pipeline/2015/11/06/id/700913/

Abandoned plans to drill in the Atlantic Ocean
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/03/obama-halts-drilling-in-the-atlantic-ocean/473907/
http://wunc.org/post/president-obama-halts-offshore-oil-drilling-plan#stream/0

Halted drilling in the Chukchi Sea
http://www.idealtaxes.com/post3102.shtml

Halted drilling in the Pacific off California
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/18/obama-blocks-new-oil-drilling-off-california-west-coast-through-2022/

Halted drilling in the Gulf of Mexico
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/us/02drill.html?_r=2&ref=earth

Stopped drilling in Montana
http://usuncut.com/climate/obama-cancels-oil-gas-leases-blackfeet-land/

Tried to hinder fracking
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/obama-adminstration-ramps-up-legal-fight-against-fracking/

Halted coal leasing on federal land
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-halts-new-coal-leasing-on-federal-land-orders-sweeping-review/2016/01/15/596dba38-bba8-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html?utm_term=.5cea4fd3a3e6

Increased regulations to prevent drilling on BLM lands
http://watchdog.org/250549/obamas-proposed-blm-regulations-increase-costsharm-economy/

Jackoff Jones needs to shut his lying mouth.  He has zero credibility and nobody should believe a single word this piece of dogshit says.

Dr. Evil wrote:I work for myself actually, and while I don't mind checking in on what your dumb ass has to say, I don't always have the time to put together a response.

First of all how could this be considered in any way to be fake news??

As I've said before our cheap dollar that was derived from QE was a huge factor in our ability to economically extract and export petroleum products.  Obama supported these QE measures. Obama doubled production of clean energy, which has lessened our need for oil. He pushed car manufacturers to increase fuel economy as part of their bailout package....

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

If Hamm doesn't want to ramp up his production in Bakken with oil prices rebounding, that's his business. But I bet he does when the Texans start bringing on all that new production out of the newly discovered reserves in the Permian Basin. Unlike Russia or OPEC, in the US the market will decide how much oil we'll have.

http://www.reporternews.com/story/money/business/2016/11/15/west-texas-oil-discovery-called-largest-ever/93931422/

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:I work for myself actually, and while I don't mind checking in on what your dumb ass has to say, I don't always have the time to put together a response.

First of all how could this be considered in any way to be fake news??

As I've said before our cheap dollar that was derived from QE was a huge factor in our ability to economically extract and export petroleum products.  Obama supported these QE measures. Obama doubled production of clean energy, which has lessened our need for oil. He pushed car manufacturers to increase fuel economy as part of their bailout package....

You are so full of BULLSHIT, that your odor emanates across the internet.

Jammer wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:I work for myself actually, and while I don't mind checking in on what your dumb ass has to say, I don't always have the time to put together a response.

First of all how could this be considered in any way to be fake news??

As I've said before our cheap dollar that was derived from QE was a huge factor in our ability to economically extract and export petroleum products.  Obama supported these QE measures. Obama doubled production of clean energy, which has lessened our need for oil. He pushed car manufacturers to increase fuel economy as part of their bailout package....

You are so full of BULLSHIT, that your odor emanates across the internet.

Just to show what a lying sack of dogshit you are, I went and looked up the data.  US consumption of clean energy in 2008 was 7.174 quadrillion BTUs and in 2015 it was 9.577 quadrillion BTUs.  That is a LONG way from doubling.

And for lessening our need for fossil fuels, clean energy accounted for about 7% - 8% of our total energy consumption when Obama took office and last year it accounted for about 9.5% of our total energy.  So during Obama's tenure and billions of taxpayer dollars used to subsidize clean energy, it made a whopping difference of about 2 percentage points.

You are nothing but a LYING SACK OF DOGSHIT.

Dr. Evil wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

If Hamm doesn't want to ramp up his production in Bakken with oil prices rebounding, that's his business. But I bet he does when the Texans start bringing on all that new production out of the newly discovered reserves in the Permian Basin. Unlike Russia or OPEC, in the US the market will decide how much oil we'll have.

http://www.reporternews.com/story/money/business/2016/11/15/west-texas-oil-discovery-called-largest-ever/93931422/

As they did last spring/summer?

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

If Hamm doesn't want to ramp up his production in Bakken with oil prices rebounding, that's his business. But I bet he does when the Texans start bringing on all that new production out of the newly discovered reserves in the Permian Basin. Unlike Russia or OPEC, in the US the market will decide how much oil we'll have.

http://www.reporternews.com/story/money/business/2016/11/15/west-texas-oil-discovery-called-largest-ever/93931422/

As they did last spring/summer?

So what exactly are you beetching about? Last summer the Saudis/OPEC decided to try and bury the US oil companies who were fracking in the oil fields of North Dakota and West Texas by opening the spigots and pumping almost unlimited amounts of oil. And yet, even though fracking extraction costs are substantially higher than conventional vertical drilling, new efficiencies were discovered which allowed the US oil companies to continue pumping although at a slightly reduced rate. Also the Saudis failed to factor in the reduced shipping costs of US oil and that the oil coming out of Bakken and West Texas is considered to be some of the best oil in the world. The Saudis were playing a game of chicken and lost and the consumer came out the big winner because of the lower pump prices.

Dr. Evil wrote:I work for myself actually, and while I don't mind checking in on what your dumb ass has to say, I don't always have the time to put together a response.

First of all how could this be considered in any way to be fake news??

As I've said before our cheap dollar that was derived from QE was a huge factor in our ability to economically extract and export petroleum products.  Obama supported these QE measures. Obama doubled production of clean energy, which has lessened our need for oil. He pushed car manufacturers to increase fuel economy as part of their bailout package....

Dr. Evil wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

If Hamm doesn't want to ramp up his production in Bakken with oil prices rebounding, that's his business. But I bet he does when the Texans start bringing on all that new production out of the newly discovered reserves in the Permian Basin. Unlike Russia or OPEC, in the US the market will decide how much oil we'll have.

http://www.reporternews.com/story/money/business/2016/11/15/west-texas-oil-discovery-called-largest-ever/93931422/

As they did last spring/summer?

So what exactly are you beetching about? Last summer the Saudis/OPEC decided to try and bury the US oil companies who were fracking in the oil fields of North Dakota and West Texas by opening the spigots and pumping almost unlimited amounts of oil. And yet, even though fracking extraction costs are substantially higher than conventional vertical drilling, new efficiencies were discovered which allowed the US oil companies to continue pumping although at a slightly reduced rate. Also the Saudis failed to factor in the reduced shipping costs of US oil and that the oil coming out of Bakken and West Texas is considered to be some of the best oil in the world. The Saudis were playing a game of chicken and lost and the consumer came out the big winner because of the lower pump prices.

Chicken?  Really??  Who says?

The Saudis have kept their production levels high since last year in order to drive other players (especially U.S. shale drillers) out of business. Equally clear is the fact that this strategy of maintaining the glut and driving out rivals hasn’t worked so far.

Saudi Arabia has ended its flirtation with free oil markets.

It took the kingdom’s new oil minister, Khalid Al-Falih, just six months to blink, ending the country’s two-year policy of pump-at-will.

The decision at this week’s meeting of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries in Algiers to cut production was necessitated by Saudi Arabia’s tattered finances.

Saudi Arabia and Russia, the world’s two largest crude oil producers, said they’re ready to cooperate to limit output, helping send prices to a one-year high in London.

Russia is willing to join OPEC’s efforts to stabilize the market, which would require either a freeze or a cut, President Vladimir Putin said on Monday at the World Energy Congress in Istanbul. Many producers outside the group have expressed a willingness to cooperate on output caps, said Saudi Arabia’s Energy and Industry Minister Khalid Al-Falih, who added that he was “optimistic” there’ll be a deal that could lift prices as high as $60 by year-end.

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:Lookie here, all dressed up and nowhere to go. Just in case anybody thought I was blowing smoke out of my ass when I said we didn't need to increase oil production, here you go. I guess you'll have to concentrate on spewing hate instead of oil this time around. Thx Obama for all that you've done. We're going to miss you more than ever!!

Trump billionaire backer: U.S. would be 'foolish' to double oil output
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/investing/harold-hamm-trump-oil-production/index.html

If Hamm doesn't want to ramp up his production in Bakken with oil prices rebounding, that's his business. But I bet he does when the Texans start bringing on all that new production out of the newly discovered reserves in the Permian Basin. Unlike Russia or OPEC, in the US the market will decide how much oil we'll have.

http://www.reporternews.com/story/money/business/2016/11/15/west-texas-oil-discovery-called-largest-ever/93931422/

As they did last spring/summer?

So what exactly are you beetching about? Last summer the Saudis/OPEC decided to try and bury the US oil companies who were fracking in the oil fields of North Dakota and West Texas by opening the spigots and pumping almost unlimited amounts of oil. And yet, even though fracking extraction costs are substantially higher than conventional vertical drilling, new efficiencies were discovered which allowed the US oil companies to continue pumping although at a slightly reduced rate. Also the Saudis failed to factor in the reduced shipping costs of US oil and that the oil coming out of Bakken and West Texas is considered to be some of the best oil in the world. The Saudis were playing a game of chicken and lost and the consumer came out the big winner because of the lower pump prices.

Chicken?  Really??  Who says?

The Saudis have kept their production levels high since last year in order to drive other players (especially U.S. shale drillers) out of business. Equally clear is the fact that this strategy of maintaining the glut and driving out rivals hasn’t worked so far.

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-Saudi-Oil-Price-War-Is-Backfiring.html

Saudi Arabia has ended its flirtation with free oil markets.

It took the kingdom’s new oil minister, Khalid Al-Falih, just six months to blink, ending the country’s two-year policy of pump-at-will.

The decision at this week’s meeting of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries in Algiers to cut production was necessitated by Saudi Arabia’s tattered finances.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-28/in-u-turn-saudis-pick-cash-over-flirting-with-free-oil-markets

Saudi Arabia and Russia, the world’s two largest crude oil producers, said they’re ready to cooperate to limit output, helping send prices to a one-year high in London.

Russia is willing to join OPEC’s efforts to stabilize the market, which would require either a freeze or a cut, President Vladimir Putin said on Monday at the World Energy Congress in Istanbul. Many producers outside the group have expressed a willingness to cooperate on output caps, said Saudi Arabia’s Energy and Industry Minister Khalid Al-Falih, who added that he was “optimistic” there’ll be a deal that could lift prices as high as $60 by year-end.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-10/russians-and-saudis-pledge-joint-effort-to-limit-oil-production

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:I work for myself actually, and while I don't mind checking in on what your dumb ass has to say, I don't always have the time to put together a response.

First of all how could this be considered in any way to be fake news??

As I've said before our cheap dollar that was derived from QE was a huge factor in our ability to economically extract and export petroleum products.  Obama supported these QE measures. Obama doubled production of clean energy, which has lessened our need for oil. He pushed car manufacturers to increase fuel economy as part of their bailout package....

Your lack of knowledge of economics is breathtakingly deficient. In other words, you're a fcukin' idiot.

While one of the effects of quantitative easing is a cheaper currency (due to the inflation of a currency) making imports more expensive and exports cheaper, your Economics for Fcukin' Idiots theory fails because...

1) Exportation of US oil was banned until January, 2016. The economies of extraction came about through the technologies and engineering of fracking. The US enjoys benefits from the dollar acting as the reserve currency regardless of whether quantitative easing is a policy of the Federal Reserve.

I've schooled you on this before. There was never a ban on exporting petroleum products. Which is a good thing. It had to be refined right here in the good ol' USA! That kept the "job creators" from outsourcing those jobs.

2) While there may be some co-ordination of economic and government policy, the fact that Obama may have supported the Fed's QE actions makes little difference since the Federal Reserve is independent of the Executive Branch and can pretty much do what it wants.

They can, but public sentiment means a lot.

3) Obama's "doubling of clean energy" is insignificant as Jammer pointed out. Also clean energy/renewable energy doesn't affect oil consumption in the US very much since very little electricity is produced with oil. Also considering that it requires 3-4 gallons of fossil fuels to produce the like amount of alcohol, ethanol gasoline is not considered a "clean energy".

Wind power, or solar, or ethanol alone may be insignificant, but when added together their effects are more meaningful. Oil and electricity most certainly compete in household heating. The less oil you use for heating, the less you need to pump. The same could be said for natural gas Again, as I've schooled you on before, the protein in the corn is essential.

4) Oil consumption initially dropped in the US because of the economy and the fact that people are driving fewer miles. Most of the mandated fuel efficiencies of Obama aren't even slated to start taking effect until 2017 with final implementation not until 2025. So far most of the fuel saved through fuel standards have come from people switching from gas hog SUVs to the fuel efficient crossovers and passenger cars not because of more stringent standards.

Many are adopting early. My pickups got a steady 13 MPG for years pre-2009. Current one averages 17. Huge step up.

Jammer wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:I work for myself actually, and while I don't mind checking in on what your dumb ass has to say, I don't always have the time to put together a response.

First of all how could this be considered in any way to be fake news??

As I've said before our cheap dollar that was derived from QE was a huge factor in our ability to economically extract and export petroleum products.  Obama supported these QE measures. Obama doubled production of clean energy, which has lessened our need for oil. He pushed car manufacturers to increase fuel economy as part of their bailout package....

You are so full of BULLSHIT, that your odor emanates across the internet.

Just to show what a lying sack of dogshit you are, I went and looked up the data.  US consumption of clean energy in 2008 was 7.174 quadrillion BTUs and in 2015 it was 9.577 quadrillion BTUs.  That is a LONG way from doubling.

And for lessening our need for fossil fuels, clean energy accounted for about 7% - 8% of our total energy consumption when Obama took office and last year it accounted for about 9.5% of our total energy.  So during Obama's tenure and billions of taxpayer dollars used to subsidize clean energy, it made a whopping difference of about 2 percentage points.

You are nothing but a LYING SACK OF DOGSHIT.