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Post  Skeptical Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:16 pm

WTF ??

Whatever happened to prepare for the worst but hope for the best.  Seems like the present mentality is let the worst happen and hope the response is adequate!!

US Embassies in Ebola-Stricken Countries Processing Visas for Non-US Citizens (100 per day apply)
DAILY SIGNAL ^  | 10/16/14 | Rob Bluey

Posted on ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎52‎:‎08‎ ‎AM by Liz

Despite the outbreak of Ebola, it is still possible to get a visa from the three West African countries at the heart of the outbreak, and a key congressman is demanding to know why.

Rep. Ed Royce, Republican-Calif, chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee, sent a sternly worded letter to Secretary of State John Kerry about the Obama administration’s handling of the Ebola epidemic in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. Royce said he was “deeply concerned” U.S. embassies in those countries were continuing to process visas for non-U.S. nationals despite the outbreak of the deadly disease.

An estimated 100 people per day are applying for U.S. visas at the three embassies, according to Royce. “Of course,” he added, “once these individuals are issued a visa by the embassy, they are free to travel to the United States.”

Royce urged Kerry to contain the Ebola virus “at its source” in Africa before any additional cases reach the United States.

“I was surprised that the Department of State has not already exercised its authority to suspend consular services, which is standard procedure in countries experiencing a major security disruption,” Royce wrote to Kerry. “This would be a prudent measure to mitigate the risk of Ebola exposure and contain its spread—a bedrock principal (sic) of health crisis management.”

Royce recommended the State Department stop issuing visas for non-U.S. nationals in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone as a “containment measure that may help mitigate the risk of further translocation to the United

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3215884/posts?page=14
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Post  Rusty Houser Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:06 pm

From your article:

That idea has drawn criticism from experts. The Heritage Foundation’s Steven Bucci and Ellen Prichard wrote for The Daily Signal last week that banning travel is the wrong approach

   Ebola presents a major challenge to authorities for managing and protecting U.S. citizens. Sealing off the borders from these countries is not feasible and does not present the best solution for dealing with the virus. America must resist the urge to react out of fear and use wisdom instead. A prudent additional step of increasing screening will help. A panicked overreaction will not.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/16/us-embassies-ebola-stricken-countries-still-processing-visas-non-us-citizens/

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Post  Skeptical Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:27 pm

Paquette wrote:From your article:

That idea has drawn criticism from experts. The Heritage Foundation’s Steven Bucci and Ellen Prichard wrote for The Daily Signal last week that banning travel is the wrong approach

   Ebola presents a major challenge to authorities for managing and protecting U.S. citizens. Sealing off the borders from these countries is not feasible and does not present the best solution for dealing with the virus. America must resist the urge to react out of fear and use wisdom instead. A prudent additional step of increasing screening will help. A panicked overreaction will not.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/16/us-embassies-ebola-stricken-countries-still-processing-visas-non-us-citizens/

That's right, let all those infected with Ebola into the country is the best approach, any curtailment of travel from the Ebola prone countries to the US is racist, gotcha!!
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Post  Darth Cheney Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:59 pm

These Ebola infected illegals are carrying their insurance cards with them...right?
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Post  Rusty Houser Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:04 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Paquette wrote:From your article:

That idea has drawn criticism from experts. The Heritage Foundation’s Steven Bucci and Ellen Prichard wrote for The Daily Signal last week that banning travel is the wrong approach

   Ebola presents a major challenge to authorities for managing and protecting U.S. citizens. Sealing off the borders from these countries is not feasible and does not present the best solution for dealing with the virus. America must resist the urge to react out of fear and use wisdom instead. A prudent additional step of increasing screening will help. A panicked overreaction will not.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/16/us-embassies-ebola-stricken-countries-still-processing-visas-non-us-citizens/

That's right, let all those infected with Ebola into the country is the best approach, any curtailment of travel from the Ebola prone countries to the US is racist, gotcha!!

I just posted a quote from the article that you provided. Can you copy and paste the exact words from the Heritage Foundation article that you posted that says "any curtailment of travel from the Ebola prone countries to the US is racist"?

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Post  Skeptical Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:17 pm

Paquette wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
Paquette wrote:From your article:

That idea has drawn criticism from experts. The Heritage Foundation’s Steven Bucci and Ellen Prichard wrote for The Daily Signal last week that banning travel is the wrong approach

   Ebola presents a major challenge to authorities for managing and protecting U.S. citizens. Sealing off the borders from these countries is not feasible and does not present the best solution for dealing with the virus. America must resist the urge to react out of fear and use wisdom instead. A prudent additional step of increasing screening will help. A panicked overreaction will not.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/16/us-embassies-ebola-stricken-countries-still-processing-visas-non-us-citizens/

That's right, let all those infected with Ebola into the country is the best approach, any curtailment of travel from the Ebola prone countries to the US is racist, gotcha!!

I just posted a quote from the article that you provided. Can you copy and paste the exact words from the Heritage Foundation article that you posted that says "any curtailment of travel from the Ebola prone countries to the US is racist"?

No need to, that is the liberal mantra!

Do you agree or disagree with a travel ban?

Why or why not?
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Post  Rusty Houser Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:30 pm

Skeptical wrote:No need to, that is the liberal mantra!

In other words, no one mentioned race except you. In other words, you're putting words in other people's mouths, you're making false accusations, you're lying. And most amusingly, this proves that you're not willing to live up your own demand for "exact words" that you expect everyone else to live up to. You're a hypocrite.

And if you're trying to claim that the Daily Signal, a publication of the Heritage Foundation is liberal, you're a freaking delusional fruitcake.

If you want to know why I don't support a travel ban, my position parallels what is spelled out by Bucci in the article linked in the article that you posted. If you really feel the need to toss out that sad little "liberal" attack, you can direct it to "Steven P. Bucci, Army Special Forces officer and top Pentagon official, director of the Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation."

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/07/wisdom-prevail-panic-solution-ebola-u-s-isnt-banning-travel/

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Post  Darth Cheney Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:03 pm

Paquette wrote:
Skeptical wrote:No need to, that is the liberal mantra!

In other words, no one mentioned race except you. In other words, you're putting words in other people's mouths, you're making false accusations, you're lying. And most amusingly, this proves that you're not willing to live up your own demand for "exact words" that you expect everyone else to live up to. You're a hypocrite.

And if you're trying to claim that the Daily Signal, a publication of the Heritage Foundation is liberal, you're a freaking delusional fruitcake.

If you want to know why I don't support a travel ban, my position parallels what is spelled out by Bucci in the article linked in the article that you posted. If you really feel the need to toss out that sad little "liberal" attack, you can direct it to "Steven P. Bucci, Army Special Forces officer and top Pentagon official, director of the Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation."

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/07/wisdom-prevail-panic-solution-ebola-u-s-isnt-banning-travel/

What to burst your bubble since you are on such an indignation rant but the Africans are NOT in agreement with your high moral ground:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_EBOLA_AFRICA_CONTAINMENT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-16-14-24-38
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Post  Skeptical Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:10 pm

Paquette wrote:
Skeptical wrote:No need to, that is the liberal mantra!

In other words, no one mentioned race except you. In other words, you're putting words in other people's mouths, you're making false accusations, you're lying. And most amusingly, this proves that you're not willing to live up your own demand for "exact words" that you expect everyone else to live up to. You're a hypocrite.

And if you're trying to claim that the Daily Signal, a publication of the Heritage Foundation is liberal, you're a freaking delusional fruitcake.

If you want to know why I don't support a travel ban, my position parallels what is spelled out by Bucci in the article linked in the article that you posted. If you really feel the need to toss out that sad little "liberal" attack, you can direct it to "Steven P. Bucci, Army Special Forces officer and top Pentagon official, director of the Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation."

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/07/wisdom-prevail-panic-solution-ebola-u-s-isnt-banning-travel/

If you have time catch the incompetent Dr. Friedman or one of his cronies declare preventing travel to the US would greatly hamper containing Ebola in Africa.  Then one of them went on to give the best reason to secure our borders when it was said by preventing direct travel to the US they would go to another country and come overland across our borders and we wouldn't even know.

It would be helpful if you would explain in detail how allowing unlimited travel to this country from those countries where Ebola is a serious problem will aid in containing the disease in those countries.
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Post  Rusty Houser Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:38 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Paquette wrote:
Skeptical wrote:No need to, that is the liberal mantra!

In other words, no one mentioned race except you. In other words, you're putting words in other people's mouths, you're making false accusations, you're lying. And most amusingly, this proves that you're not willing to live up your own demand for "exact words" that you expect everyone else to live up to. You're a hypocrite.

And if you're trying to claim that the Daily Signal, a publication of the Heritage Foundation is liberal, you're a freaking delusional fruitcake.

If you want to know why I don't support a travel ban, my position parallels what is spelled out by Bucci in the article linked in the article that you posted. If you really feel the need to toss out that sad little "liberal" attack, you can direct it to "Steven P. Bucci, Army Special Forces officer and top Pentagon official, director of the Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies at The Heritage Foundation."

http://dailysignal.com/2014/10/07/wisdom-prevail-panic-solution-ebola-u-s-isnt-banning-travel/

What to burst your bubble since you are on such an indignation rant but the Africans are NOT in agreement with your high moral ground:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_EBOLA_AFRICA_CONTAINMENT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-16-14-24-38

"High moral ground?" I never said anything morality. If you have to put words in my mouth, you must not have any legitimate argument. That seems to be an epidemic in here.

I'm not anxious to copy the policies of failed, third world countries.

If you read your article you'll find that "Border closings MAY also be helping halt the spread of Ebola." But those boarder closings haven't stopped people from getting through, the real success has come from "good patient-tracking and other medical practices, and just plain luck."

Their boarders are even more porous than ours, they just go around the checkpoints. Your own article says says that. "And some observers warn that border closings can have limited effect in a region with highly porous boundaries and few resources to patrol them. Border posts are sometimes easily skirted."

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Post  Gomezz Adddams Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:37 pm

“... we are going to solve this particular problem [Ebola] just like we’ve solved every other problem.”

Like healthcare? Immigration? The economy? Snicker.  Suspect   Ebola: Part Two 1106906410   Suspect

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/10/28/obama-promises-to-solve-ebola-just-like-weve-solved-every-other-problem/
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Post  Skeptical Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:28 pm

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Post  Skeptical Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:57 pm

"Ebola will never get to the US"

Ya'all remember those words from the MT suit HMWAIC? (no doubt there at least two will argue he ever said that)

Well, sit down folks!



On Tuesday evening’s Fox Special Report, Mike Emanuel reported he’s obtained an internal State Department memo indicating that the Obama Administration is considering bringing non-Americans suffering from Ebola into the country for treatment. Based on the memo it is clear the State Department is recommending the action.  It is also evident that this administration is totally out of touch with the American people.


Enjoy the apples before the lemons people.

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2014/10/breaking-fox-news-reveals-obama-admin-memo-recommending-bringing-non-americans-to-us-for-ebola-treatment-2927450.html
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Post  Gomezz Adddams Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:56 pm

WTF? I thinks I got whiplash from Obola saying no to quarantine but the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Armyrecommending quarantine for returning soldiers/personnel from West Africa. Suspect

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/222101-hagel-considering-ebola-quarantine-for-all-troops-deployed-to-west-africa
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Post  Skeptical Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:27 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:WTF? I thinks I got whiplash from Obola saying no to quarantine but the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Armyrecommending quarantine for returning soldiers/personnel from West Africa. Suspect

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/222101-hagel-considering-ebola-quarantine-for-all-troops-deployed-to-west-africa

Close to the classic case of "right hand meet left hand"  All parts of the MT suit HMWAIV administration seems to do their own thing
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Post  Skeptical Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:39 am

Gomezz Adddams wrote:WTF? I thinks I got whiplash from Obola saying no to quarantine but the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Armyrecommending quarantine for returning soldiers/personnel from West Africa. Suspect

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/222101-hagel-considering-ebola-quarantine-for-all-troops-deployed-to-west-africa

Isn't this ass backwards?

It is ok to quarantine our military who are not treating Ebola patients and more than not very low risk of being infected yet it is a NO-NO to quarantine healthcare workers who are at great risk of being infected treating Ebola patients.

That makes as much sense as that MT suit HMWAIC and that dolt Friedman saying the best way to contain the epidemic in West Africa is to allow or bring the infected into this country rather than containing it in those areas now affected!
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Post  Gomezz Adddams Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:52 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Gomezz Adddams wrote:WTF? I thinks I got whiplash from Obola saying no to quarantine but the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Armyrecommending quarantine for returning soldiers/personnel from West Africa. Suspect

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/222101-hagel-considering-ebola-quarantine-for-all-troops-deployed-to-west-africa

Isn't this ass backwards?

It is ok to quarantine our military who are not treating Ebola patients and more than not very low risk of being infected yet it is a NO-NO to quarantine healthcare workers who are at great risk of being infected treating Ebola patients.

That makes as much sense as that MT suit HMWAIC and that dolt Friedman saying the best way to contain the epidemic in West Africa is to allow or bring the infected into this country rather than containing it in those areas now affected!

And now the Italians got their maniccoti all in a twist over the Ebola quarantine happening in their country.

http://www.thelocal.it/20141029/us-soldiers-ebola-quarantine-in-italy-sparks-alarm
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Post  Gomezz Adddams Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:39 am

So much for voluntary quarantining as nurse "Typhoid Mary", Kaci Hickox goes for a bike ride. affraid Suspect affraid

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2814208/Quarantined-Ebola-nurse-defies-orders-stay-home-goes-bike-ride-boyfriend.html
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Post  Skeptical Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:39 pm

Gomezz Adddams wrote:So much for voluntary quarantining as nurse "Typhoid Mary", Kaci Hickox goes for a bike ride. affraid Suspect affraid

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2814208/Quarantined-Ebola-nurse-defies-orders-stay-home-goes-bike-ride-boyfriend.html

I had a wild thought .... would any or all those who say "follow the science" and maintain she is no threat to others because she is Ebola free be willing to take up residence in her house and be in constant close contact for the required 21 days.
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Post  Darth Cheney Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:31 pm

She's a former liberal hack and the media can't stop fawning over her bravery. I know it is wrong but I kind of hopes she is carrying the Ebola virus and expires with screaming shitz.
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Post  Darth Cheney Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:32 pm

For those hard of learning...it appears the Chimp in Chief is largely responsible for the flu out-brake that took numerous lives... Back to sleep now!

http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/31/obamas-border-policy-fueled-epidemic-evidence-shows/
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Post  Just Braying It Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:42 pm

Darth Cheney wrote:She's a former liberal hack and the media can't stop fawning over her bravery. I know it is wrong but I kind of hopes she is carrying the Ebola virus and expires with screaming shitz.

Your Savior, Jesus Christ, probably wouldn't agree with you.

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Post  Darth Cheney Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:42 pm

Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:She's a former liberal hack and the media can't stop fawning over her bravery. I know it is wrong but I kind of hopes she is carrying the Ebola virus and expires with screaming shitz.

Your Savior, Jesus Christ, probably wouldn't agree with you.

I fall far short but still hopes she gets it.
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Post  Just Braying It Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:07 am

Darth Cheney wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:She's a former liberal hack and the media can't stop fawning over her bravery. I know it is wrong but I kind of hopes she is carrying the Ebola virus and expires with screaming shitz.

Your Savior, Jesus Christ, probably wouldn't agree with you.

I fall far short but still hopes she gets it.

For someone who pretends to be Christian, you aren't very good at pretending to be Christian.

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Post  Darth Cheney Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:49 am

Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:
Liberal wrote:
Darth Cheney wrote:She's a former liberal hack and the media can't stop fawning over her bravery. I know it is wrong but I kind of hopes she is carrying the Ebola virus and expires with screaming shitz.

Your Savior, Jesus Christ, probably wouldn't agree with you.

I fall far short but still hopes she gets it.

For someone who pretends to be Christian, you aren't very good at pretending to be Christian.

I really value your opinion...
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