How should conservatives deal with progressive liberals?

The question of how should a conservative deal with a progressive liberal is an interesting one to me.  I think way too often we make many mistakes in how we deal with them.  For anyone who believes we have not made too many mistakes in dealing with them, perhaps then the questions should either be “how did we allow them to gain all of the ground they have gained” or even “Are we on the wrong side of today’s political spectrum”.

I think the first thing to think about is just what is a progressive liberal and are there other types of liberals?  I am sure there are a multitude of thoughts on this, but in my opinion there are basically two types of liberals, traditional and progressive.

In my opinion, what I am calling traditional liberals are pretty much the Democrats of Harry Truman or John F. Kennedy.  While they certainly had different priorities than did conservatives, for the most part they wanted pretty much the same things.  They loved this country and believed in its Founding Principles and the US Constitution that was put in place to preserve our great country.

They typically have open minds and are willing to change their positions when presented with sound logic.  While it is not easy to win argument with them, there is always the possibility that a traditional liberal will change their mind.  They are usually honest and good people, but they do think somewhat differently than do conservatives.  There are very few traditional liberals remaining in the Democrat Party as they have either registered as Independents or are posing as moderates in the Republican Party.  So, if we are talking about “traditional” liberals, I believe they deserve to be treated the same way we would like to be treated.  

Progressive liberals on the other hand are a totally different animal.  They hate this country and what it stands for.  They despise the Founding Principles and the US Constitution and therefore are constantly working to progressively erode, ignore, circumvent or just plain change it.  There are numerous examples of these actual changes over the years and are known as the progressive Amendments, the most devastating of which might be the 17th Amendment.  

Progressive liberals are totally closed minded.  Regardless of the data or facts presented to them, they never change their mind or their direction.  I dare any conservative to identify a true progressive who they were able to change their position, let alone their ideology.  It just doesn’t happen, even if we would like to fool ourselves into thinking we are such compelling debaters that they are at our mercy.

On the other hand, having debates with these progressive liberals might even serve to hurt the conservative cause.  I doubt if very many conservatives will be influenced by the garbage they are spewing, but think about the innocent bystanders listening to the discussion going on.  

Many of these are “low information” voters who for whatever reason don’t have much knowledge of the issues.  It is not difficult to believe that when they hear these constant debates going on with the progressive liberals they conclude, “Where there’s smoke there’s fire”.  

As such, it is possible that the progressive liberal will gain points with these “low information” voters especially when they bring in all of their “warm and fuzzy” emotional issues.  You know, the old but it’s for the kids, it’s for the poor, it’s for the sick, it’s for the environment or whatever emotional issue is hot at the moment.  And when they do that, the human nature of the “low information” voter is to come to the conclusion that if that warm passionate progressive liberal is sticking up for the kids, the poor, the sick or the environment, then that conservative must be AGAINST those things.

Think about what these progressive liberals have done to conservatives over the years.  They have demeaned us with slurs of being a racist, being greedy, being a bigot, being a homophobe, or being a teabagger to the point that many conservatives are afraid to even open their mouths and take a position on an issue.  Well I for one think it is time to turn their tactics on them.

We need to hound these people for being what they are: EVIL – PURE EVIL.  If you don’t think they are evil, go to the thread and review all of the liberal sins that we identified.  For the most part, this is almost exclusively a condemnation of PROGRESSIVE liberals.

Therefore when making a personal decision on how to deal with progressive liberals, I am going to treat them like the agents of evil they are.  They do not deserve the respect of a conservative or a traditional liberal.  I will not hire one, I will not do business with one, I will not work for one, I try to never even talk to one and if given the chance I will (figuratively) spit in their face.

I am interested in how other conservatives think we should deal with these PROGRESSIVE liberals.  I have ZERO interest in hearing from any scumbag progressive liberals.

Jammer wrote:The question of how should a conservative deal with a progressive liberal is an interesting one to me.  I think way too often we make many mistakes in how we deal with them.  For anyone who believes we have not made too many mistakes in dealing with them, perhaps then the questions should either be “how did we allow them to gain all of the ground they have gained” or even “Are we on the wrong side of today’s political spectrum”.

No doubt they were around here and there long before either of us made our appearance on this earth but unlike now were not an epidemic force.

Like other things that got out of hand over the years they were allowed to grow because of apathy.  In a way the same unconcern given a single fly that may get into a house and periodically be a nuisance then be gone.

The bad thing is when society crumbles because of their "rights" and "social justice" demands they will find themselves in the same boat as those they spend so much time demeaning.

And guess what, they will be the only ones with the dumb look on their face and wanting to know what happened to their Utopia!

Only then will they be somewhat able to comprehend what we have been trying to tell them all along.

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The question of how should a conservative deal with a progressive liberal is an interesting one to me.  I think way too often we make many mistakes in how we deal with them.  For anyone who believes we have not made too many mistakes in dealing with them, perhaps then the questions should either be “how did we allow them to gain all of the ground they have gained” or even “Are we on the wrong side of today’s political spectrum”.

No doubt they were around here and there long before either of us made our appearance on this earth but unlike now were not an epidemic force.

Like other things that got out of hand over the years they were allowed to grow because of apathy.  In a way the same unconcern given a single fly that may get into a house and periodically be a nuisance then be gone.

The bad thing is when society crumbles because of their "rights" and "social justice" demands they will find themselves in the same boat as those they spend so much time demeaning.

And guess what, they will be the only ones with the dumb look on their face and wanting to know what happened to their Utopia!

Only then will they be somewhat able to comprehend what we have been trying to tell them all along.

In my opinion it is very simple, every conservative needs to become a Winston Churchill and have his resolve.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu161337.html

The time for debate with these azzholes is over, it is time to take the fight to them.  Appeasement is no answer, it is time for a "take no prisoners" mentality.

Jammer wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The question of how should a conservative deal with a progressive liberal is an interesting one to me.  I think way too often we make many mistakes in how we deal with them.  For anyone who believes we have not made too many mistakes in dealing with them, perhaps then the questions should either be “how did we allow them to gain all of the ground they have gained” or even “Are we on the wrong side of today’s political spectrum”.

No doubt they were around here and there long before either of us made our appearance on this earth but unlike now were not an epidemic force.

Like other things that got out of hand over the years they were allowed to grow because of apathy.  In a way the same unconcern given a single fly that may get into a house and periodically be a nuisance then be gone.

The bad thing is when society crumbles because of their "rights" and "social justice" demands they will find themselves in the same boat as those they spend so much time demeaning.

And guess what, they will be the only ones with the dumb look on their face and wanting to know what happened to their Utopia!

Only then will they be somewhat able to comprehend what we have been trying to tell them all along.

In my opinion it is very simple, every conservative needs to become a Winston Churchill and have his resolve.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu161337.html

The time for debate with these azzholes is over, it is time to take the fight to them.  Appeasement is no answer, it is time for a "take no prisoners" mentality.

Amen!

Fred Phelps?

Liberal wrote:Fred Phelps?

Thanks for proving my point AZZHOLE.  I love watching you cockroaches squirm when somebody shines a light on you.

Jammer wrote:
The time for debate with these azzholes is over, it is time to take the fight to them.  Appeasement is no answer, it is time for a "take no prisoners" mentality.

What? You are calling for blood of people?

I'm sorry but that is a bit beyond crazy. Not only is that irresponsible as a human but that is bordering on psychopathic behavior.

I'm quite glad that you are being so satirical with your comments, but be more honest, don't embellish so much.

Liberal wrote:Fred Phelps?

Phelps was a registered Democrat.

The debate avenue will not sway a true Progressive/communist.
The on-line looney bin libs were rallying "fierce progressives" during the Bush election and again during his re-election. They advocated "direct action" at the Rep political rallys and even at the polls, to disrupt the voting process in heavy Republican precincts. The only real difference between the rag tag mobs that slither into any disturbance or rally to the screams of the likes of Jackson or the former cocaine dealer Sharpton is their age. True progressive are those campus lib activists who never grew up or got a real job.

Clicker wrote:

Liberal wrote:Fred Phelps?

Phelps was a registered Democrat.

The debate avenue will not sway a true Progressive/communist.
The on-line looney bin libs were rallying "fierce progressives" during the Bush election and again during his re-election.  They advocated "direct action" at the Rep political rallys and even at the polls, to disrupt the voting process in heavy Republican precincts.  The only real difference between the rag tag mobs that slither into any disturbance or rally to the screams of the likes of Jackson or the former cocaine dealer Sharpton is their age.  True progressive are those campus lib activists who never grew up or got a real job.

Clicker wrote:  The debate avenue will not sway a true Progressive/communist.

Truer words were never spoken.  You "nailed it".

I have skimmed hundreds of pages on this forum and have seen thousands of comments by conservatives with undisputable evidence, proof, facts, documentation, logic and commonsense.  However, I have not seen a single case where one of these progressive liberal useful idiots have changed a single position, let alone their ideology.

So I ask, why do we waste our time on this scum?  They are cretins with evil intent and nothing we SAY will ever change them from their appointed task to push the socialist agenda in this country.  If I have missed the cases where success has been achieved, please show me.  If I am wrong in my thinking, please enlighten me.

In the meantime, I will be on the streets (figuratively) spitting in the faces of these evil cretins.

Here is a good example of how conservatives should deal with progressive liberals - stand up to them and their stupidity.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/09/university-michigan-reverses-course-will-show-american-sniper-as-scheduled/

It is good to see somebody like Coach Harbaugh take the stand he did.  It will take a lot more conservatives to show the same courage to stand up to this evil agenda of the progressive liberals if we are ever to be successful.

Waiting for the calls from the radical libs left for his head on a pike.

Here's another one:

http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/4th-grader-destroys-common-core-by-asking-school-board-one-question-2/#

All conservatives should be as brave as this little 4th grade girl.  What conservative would not be PROUD to have this little girl as their daughter or granddaughter?  She was smart enough and brave enough to take this fight out in the open where the light of day will cause the cockroach liberals to slither back under their rocks.

You will never be able to change the mind or ideology of a progressive liberal.  You can only hope to:

• Defeat their elitist handlers at the voting booth
  
• Silence the useful idiots
  
• Educate the next generation on the evils of progressive liberalism
  
• Create a culture where being a progressive liberal is despicable and unacceptabe
  

With a lot of hard work and education the American public will soon become aware of the evil people who make of the progressive liberal socialist movement.  The progressives will become so despised they will avoid the light of day as they will be viewed like the lepers of old.