Another Hypocrite Bites the Dust

Jammer wrote:It is quite rare to see progressive liberals turn on each other.  However, we have seen it twice this year in Cosby and Shkreli.  But this should be no surprise to people; it is right out of their playbook.  Well actually it comes from the communist playbook of the old USSR where they get most of their strategies.

One of the principles in that communist playbook was:  Personal interests must be subordinated to the Party's interests.

Therefore when the ruling progressive socialist elites in this country identify one of their own that is damage goods to the point they can’t be rehabilitated, they are thrown under the proverbial bus for the greater good of the cause.  They then instruct all their useful idiots to hit the streets and proclaim what a good bunch they are because of their noble actions.

That is just the way those cretins roll.  Fortunately most people recognize this old trick of their, but they keep trying.

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

Dr. Jones wrote:
Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

What an interesting post above.

So, you knock up your girlfriend and won't support YOUR family so she has to go on welfare.  

Then you bitch about it not being enough?  Where are your $$$ in support?

Maybe if you would have been the 'proud sodomizer' you claim to be, she wouldn't have gotten knocked up.

BladeRunner wrote:

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

What an interesting post above.

So, you knock up your girlfriend and won't support YOUR family so she has to go on welfare.  

Then you bitch about it not being enough?  Where are your $$$ in support?

Maybe if you would have been the 'proud sodomizer' you claim to be, she wouldn't have gotten knocked up.

Dr. Jones is very typical of liberals. Never wanting to take responsibility for their actions. Notice how he emphasized "supposedly a living human being" ? He is hinting that because the human being should be considered a human being, his insurance should cover the human being's birth. Of course, he doesn't think about the fact that he wasn't MARRIED to this woman, meaning even she was not part of his family and thus not part of his family insurance policy.

Libs, always trying to get out of paying for their actions.

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

What an interesting post above.

So, you knock up your girlfriend and won't support YOUR family so she has to go on welfare.  

Then you bitch about it not being enough?  Where are your $$$ in support?

Maybe if you would have been the 'proud sodomizer' you claim to be, she wouldn't have gotten knocked up.

Dr. Jones wrote:

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

What an interesting post above.

So, you knock up your girlfriend and won't support YOUR family so she has to go on welfare.  

Then you bitch about it not being enough?  Where are your $$$ in support?

Maybe if you would have been the 'proud sodomizer' you claim to be, she wouldn't have gotten knocked up.

I don't know if you noticed or not but I said we didn't partake in any postpartum "welfare".  The care she received before delivery consisted of a handful of doctor visits.  The biggest expense by far was an ultrasound.  Certainly not a prefect situation, but the government also needs to understand what's going on out here.  Luckily the rules changed after this and kids are now allowed to stay on their parents insurance until they are done with college.  My wife was not a traditional student,  so this would not have heled her at all. 

As far as me not paying my dues, that is complete BS.  I still managed to meet my deductible in the delivery, so if you want your money you need to talk to my insurance company. 

I never said the money wasn't enough.   You people need to learn to stick with the facts about what people say instead of putting words in people's mouths.  I said that the assistance we recieved, and never used, was nothing that would allow someone to quit working and live off of the government as many of you claim happens.

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

What an interesting post above.

So, you knock up your girlfriend and won't support YOUR family so she has to go on welfare.  

Then you bitch about it not being enough?  Where are your $$$ in support?

Maybe if you would have been the 'proud sodomizer' you claim to be, she wouldn't have gotten knocked up.

I don't know if you noticed or not but I said we didn't partake in any postpartum "welfare".  The care she received before delivery consisted of a handful of doctor visits.  The biggest expense by far was an ultrasound.  Certainly not a prefect situation, but the government also needs to understand what's going on out here.  Luckily the rules changed after this and kids are now allowed to stay on their parents insurance until they are done with college.  My wife was not a traditional student,  so this would not have heled her at all. 

As far as me not paying my dues, that is complete BS.  I still managed to meet my deductible in the delivery, so if you want your money you need to talk to my insurance company. 

I never said the money wasn't enough.   You people need to learn to stick with the facts about what people say instead of putting words in people's mouths.  I said that the assistance we recieved, and never used, was nothing that would allow someone to quit working and live off of the government as many of you claim happens.

You said you received assistance but never used it.  Did you give it back or use it later, which means you DID use it.

Dr. Jones wrote:

BladeRunner wrote:

nightlight88 wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:1) Cosby's guilt or innocence will be determined by the justice system. That said ...

2) Whatever he has or hasn't done has nothing, nada, zilch to do with his statements on the disintegration of the Black Family in America.  The Black Family in America has disintegrated because of the growth of big government and the welfare state which have supplanted and minimized black fathers. Cosby may or may not be a perfect role model and his alleged actions may diminish what he said in some people's eyes however let there be no doubt that what he stated remains true.

Welfare programs are no silver bullet.  As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time).  Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall.  We never spent a penny of it, all we were looking for was the pregnancy coverage I was refused by my private insurance company.  The point is that it didn't amount to a hill of beans.   It would maybe keep your child from starving to death, but that's it.  Certainly nothing that would put you in a mindset that you didn't need to work.  So where's the problem? 

Look at Google.  What effect would you say them having only 2% black employees has on the black community?  Do you suppose Google is the only one?   I doubt it.  What about the ol' barrel of applesauce himself,  Scalia clinging to the mismatch theory of college curriculum that has never actually been proven by anyone anywhere?  Where would that leave the black community if colleges were actually allowed to bar students based on color as Scalia suggests they should be?  We would likely have 2% black college enrollment as well. 

Undoubtedly the environmental factors in predominantly black neighborhoods play a huge roll, but some of these factors really leave them behind the 8 ball.

What an interesting post above.

So, you knock up your girlfriend and won't support YOUR family so she has to go on welfare.  

Then you bitch about it not being enough?  Where are your $$$ in support?

Maybe if you would have been the 'proud sodomizer' you claim to be, she wouldn't have gotten knocked up.

Dr. Jones is very typical of liberals. Never wanting to take responsibility for their actions. Notice how he emphasized "supposedly a living human being" ? He is hinting that because the human being should be considered a human being, his insurance should cover the human being's birth. Of course, he doesn't think about the fact that he wasn't MARRIED to this woman, meaning even she was not part of his family and thus not part of his family insurance policy.

Libs, always trying to get out of paying for their actions.

We've been through this before Blade.  Even though my wife was not part of my family the baby she carried most certainly was.  And by your standard he was a living human being, a human being that required her to visit the doctor to monitor his health.  It would have been very tough for him to receive necessary medical observations without her being present.

I don't see what about that would constitute me trying to get out of paying for my actions. 

Dr. Jones wrote: We've been through this before Blade.  Even though my wife was not part of my family the baby she carried most certainly was.  And by your standard he was a living human being, a human being that required her to visit the doctor to monitor his health.  It would have been very tough for him to receive necessary medical observations without her being present.

I don't see what about that would constitute me trying to get out of paying for my actions. 

As I've said,  my wife got pregnant before we were married and my insurance wouldn't cover her pregnancy(carrying my son who was supposedly a living human being at the time). Because of that she was forced to apply for government assistance.  Once that was done she was eligible for the whole program in all it's glory.  I was really looking forward to kicking back and raking the money in.  OK, maybe not.  For almost two years until we were married she received her monthly WIC windfall. ?