Rewriting the Constitution

Wow 11,000 times. Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare. Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

They may as well be part of the other Dumb Laws still on the books, such as.

"A man with a moustache may never kiss a woman in public."

"One-armed piano players must perform for free."

"Kisses may last for no more than five minutes."

"is a violation of the law to sell or distribute drugs or narcotics without having first obtained the appropriate Iowa drug tax stamp."

"Tanning bed facilities must warn of the risk of getting a sunburn."

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

They may as well be part of the other Dumb Laws still on the books, such as.

"A man with a moustache may never kiss a woman in public."

"One-armed piano players must perform for free."

"Kisses may last for no more than five minutes."

"is a violation of the law to sell or distribute drugs or narcotics without having first obtained the appropriate Iowa drug tax stamp."

"Tanning bed facilities must warn of the risk of getting a sunburn."

I know right?!? Some of those proposals were so stupid.

Blue Laws have always been a point of ridicule.Many of the attempted "amendments" to the Constitution were symbolic, much the same as Bills running thru Congress to show constituents that their elected officials are doing what they were elected to do and lay blame on the other party. The Dimms excel at this ploy having a high rate of blame laying and are somewhat successful at it.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

They may as well be part of the other Dumb Laws still on the books, such as.

"A man with a moustache may never kiss a woman in public."

"One-armed piano players must perform for free."

"Kisses may last for no more than five minutes."

"is a violation of the law to sell or distribute drugs or narcotics without having first obtained the appropriate Iowa drug tax stamp."

"Tanning bed facilities must warn of the risk of getting a sunburn."

Some of those proposals were so stupid.

There isn't much harm in CNN putting forth a humorous article.

Some sales laws are equally funny. Sunday sales laws abound. In Ohio where I grew up Sunday sales of Hi alcohol beer as prohibited but 3.2 beer (nicknamed "Colorado coolade") could be sold. The Hi beer was sold in one cooler and the Lo in another. Hi beer coolers were chained shut on Sunday. Liquor was sold only in State owned stores. You walked in, filled out an order form with your name and address on it, put it thu a slot and waited for your name to be called. You paid thru a bank teller type window and took your booze home. They still have State stores but they are now like 7 11s. Arkansas still has dry counties where it's illegal to sell any kind of alcoholic beverage. Elections typically feature a "Drys vs Wets" issue on the ballot. Makes for fun reading and guffaws to page thru them.

Leave it to the repressive liberal useful idiots to use every possible misrepresentation, distortion and outright lie to advance their evil agenda.  These cretins are pure evil.

As for the referenced article which really was quite pathetic, it did illustrate the brilliance of the Founding Fathers.  They understood how difficult it was to achieve liberty from a tyrannical government, but they also understood the ridiculous attempts there would be by repressive liberals in the future to return to an all controlling tyrannical central government.  The system they put in place has done a modestly good job at protecting our liberty.  However, over time due to weak kneed conservatives who sit on the sidelines, the repressive liberals have progressively robbed us and our children of our liberty.

First there was a rush to destroy liberty in America during the great REPRESSIVE era that the evil cretins like to call the progressive era.  The 16th, 17th and 18th Amendments were devastating attacks on our freedom.  While we were smart enough to repeal the 18th Amendment, we have allowed the 16th and 17th Amendments to stand and continue the erosion of our Republican form of government and personal liberties.

What the Founders would probably be even more disappointed with if they were to return and see what we have done with the great country and system of government they gave us would be how we have allowed the repressive liberals to change things via judicial interpretation.  After the great repressive era, these evil cretins saw how hard it was to fundamentally change our country through the Constitutional process and they have focused on unconstitutional ways to destroy America.  Repressive liberal activist judges and presidential executive orders are the tools of choice these days.

It is time for TRUE conservatives to quit playing Google footsie with these evil repressive liberal cretins and take a REAL stand in preserving our liberties and RESTORING our Constitution.  We need to help educate and inform our friends and neighbors and most of all we have to actively take to the street to help good conservatives get elected to every level of government.

Conservatives need to spend more time learning about the TRUE history of our country and what the Constitution really means.  Repressive liberals have rewritten history and much of what is now taught in our educational system is either inaccurate or slanted.

There are many good places to go for this information, one of them being Hillsdale College.  For those conservatives who are friends of Hillsdale College, they will have already received a link to this video in their e-mails this morning.  For those who did not receive it, perhaps it is time to get on their e-mail list.

Sooooo, what's your point?

Jammer wrote:Conservatives need to spend more time learning about the TRUE history of our country and what the Constitution really means.  Repressive liberals have rewritten history and much of what is now taught in our educational system is either inaccurate or slanted.

There are many good places to go for this information, one of them being Hillsdale College.  For those conservatives who are friends of Hillsdale College, they will have already received a link to this video in their e-mails this morning.  For those who did not receive it, perhaps it is time to get on their e-mail list.

I am already with Hillsdale.

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

And some of them are still pushed to this day....

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

And some of them are still pushed to this day....

And your point is?

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

And some of them are still pushed to this day....

And your point is?

That it's idiotic, and time and time again a proven misrepresentation of the intentions of the authors of our Constitution.

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

And some of them are still pushed to this day....

And your point is?

That it's idiotic, and time and time again a proven misrepresentation of the intentions of the authors of our Constitution.

Where is this misrepresentation of which you speak? I can't find anything in Article V of the Constitution, the Federalist's Papers or in Madison's Notes on the Debates in the Federal Convention stating that only x number of amendments should be offered up in a particular year or Congress. Maybe you can enlighten the Forum as to where these intentions of the Framers lie.

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

And some of them are still pushed to this day....

And your point is?

That it's idiotic, and time and time again a proven misrepresentation of the intentions of the authors of our Constitution.

Where is this misrepresentation of which you speak? I can't find anything in Article V of the Constitution, the Federalist's Papers or in Madison's Notes on the Debates in the Federal Convention stating that only x number of amendments should be offered up in a particular year or Congress. Maybe you can enlighten the Forum as to where these intentions of the Framers lie.

#6 in particular, and the incessant yammering about the need for God in our government(s).

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Wow 11,000 times.  Reminds me of the GOP endlessly trying to end ObamaCare.  Some are pretty interesting, and not all that surprising.

11,000 failed attempts to change America
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/03/politics/failed-constitutional-amendments/index.html

No doubt many of the proposed amendments are stupid and the great majority of them didn't even make it out of committee, but still the process was being followed as outlined in the Constitution for amending the document. Not so with the "Living Constitutionalists" on the Left who prefer using the Federal Courts and Supreme Court, Presidential edict and executive orders to do an end run on the Constitution process.

And some of them are still pushed to this day....

And your point is?

That it's idiotic, and time and time again a proven misrepresentation of the intentions of the authors of our Constitution.

Where is this misrepresentation of which you speak? I can't find anything in Article V of the Constitution, the Federalist's Papers or in Madison's Notes on the Debates in the Federal Convention stating that only x number of amendments should be offered up in a particular year or Congress. Maybe you can enlighten the Forum as to where these intentions of the Framers lie.

#6 in particular, and the incessant yammering about the need for God in our government(s).

Many Framers and Founders were devout Christians. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution both have references to God and/or religion. Justification for the Revolution hinged on whether or not it would violate Romans 13:1-7. The Declaration speaks of a Supreme Being with it's use of the word Creator and appeals for protection from a "divine Providence". The Preamble to the Constitution "ordains" the new Constitution. And for God's sake, your head might explode if you understood all the religious undertones and meanings Lincoln ascribes to the Founding in the Gettysburg Address.

Jammer wrote:Leave it to the repressive liberal useful idiots to use every possible misrepresentation, distortion and outright lie to advance their evil agenda.  These cretins are pure evil.

As for the referenced article which really was quite pathetic, it did illustrate the brilliance of the Founding Fathers.  They understood how difficult it was to achieve liberty from a tyrannical government, but they also understood the ridiculous attempts there would be by repressive liberals in the future to return to an all controlling tyrannical central government.  The system they put in place has done a modestly good job at protecting our liberty.  However, over time due to weak kneed conservatives who sit on the sidelines, the repressive liberals have progressively robbed us and our children of our liberty.

First there was a rush to destroy liberty in America during the great REPRESSIVE era that the evil cretins like to call the progressive era.  The 16th, 17th and 18th Amendments were devastating attacks on our freedom.  While we were smart enough to repeal the 18th Amendment, we have allowed the 16th and 17th Amendments to stand and continue the erosion of our Republican form of government and personal liberties.

What the Founders would probably be even more disappointed with if they were to return and see what we have done with the great country and system of government they gave us would be how we have allowed the repressive liberals to change things via judicial interpretation.  After the great repressive era, these evil cretins saw how hard it was to fundamentally change our country through the Constitutional process and they have focused on unconstitutional ways to destroy America.  Repressive liberal activist judges and presidential executive orders are the tools of choice these days.

It is time for TRUE conservatives to quit playing Google footsie with these evil repressive liberal cretins and take a REAL stand in preserving our liberties and RESTORING our Constitution.  We need to help educate and inform our friends and neighbors and most of all we have to actively take to the street to help good conservatives get elected to every level of government.

Ok. Lets do away with the 16th amendment.  

How do you propose to fund federal government?  Especially the national defense and engagement in war activities. You know, the main reason why there was need to supplement government revenue and establish a federal income tax in the first place.

BTW, the 16th amendment was launched during the administration of a Republican POTUS - Taft.

And Mr Jammer relative to the 17th amendment I would think that ultimate personal freedom is be actively and directly involved in electing representatives to the federal government.  All of them.

Can you imagine the result if the current crew in the State House in Pierre were to be responsible to select our state's representation to the US Senate?

Shortie's Ex wrote:And Mr Jammer relative to the 17th amendment I would think that ultimate personal freedom is be actively and directly involved in electing representatives to the federal government.  All of them.

Can you imagine the result if the current crew in the State House in Pierre were to be responsible to select our state's representation to the US Senate?

Would it be different than it is now?

Shortie's Ex wrote:And Mr Jammer relative to the 17th amendment I would think that ultimate personal freedom is be actively and directly involved in electing representatives to the federal government.  All of them.

Can you imagine the result if the current crew in the State House in Pierre were to be responsible to select our state's representation to the US Senate?

These comments by the Sleazy Slut are so typical of what you hear from the repressive liberal useful idiots.  They are grossly uninformed on just what our system of government is supposed to be.  The devastation of our educational system in this country by these evil cretins is to blame for this.  For the last 100 years these repressive liberals have sought to remove the Constitution and our Founding Principles from our schools.  They have demonized the Founding Fathers to further their assault on the wonderful system of government they gave us.

Conservatives should not be wasting their time playing Google footsie with these evil cretins.  We should be spending our time better learning these things ourselves.  We should then take the time to talk to our friends, neighbors and relatives to inform them.  This is the only way we can stop these evil cretins.

As Thomas Jefferson said:

If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed.

I commend nightlight for his comment above about being involved with Hillsdale College.  Hillsdale College is just an excellent resource for conservatives and liberty loving Americans.  I encourage every conservative to get involved with them and receive their Imprimis.  I would also encourage you to consider attending one of their Hostels, Freedom Forums or other events.  You will never regret your experience with this wonderful organization.

Hillsdale Hostels
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/hillsdale-hostel/

Freedom Forums
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/freedom-forums/

Free Market Forum
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/free-market-forum/


Why waste your time on here arguing with these repressive liberal mental midgets.  You will never ever change their minds.  They are evil people and are intent on spreading evil.  Our best weapon against these evil cretins is to be one step ahead of them informing our friends and neighbors of the TRUTH.

Shortie's Ex wrote:

Jammer wrote:Leave it to the repressive liberal useful idiots to use every possible misrepresentation, distortion and outright lie to advance their evil agenda.  These cretins are pure evil.

As for the referenced article which really was quite pathetic, it did illustrate the brilliance of the Founding Fathers.  They understood how difficult it was to achieve liberty from a tyrannical government, but they also understood the ridiculous attempts there would be by repressive liberals in the future to return to an all controlling tyrannical central government.  The system they put in place has done a modestly good job at protecting our liberty.  However, over time due to weak kneed conservatives who sit on the sidelines, the repressive liberals have progressively robbed us and our children of our liberty.

First there was a rush to destroy liberty in America during the great REPRESSIVE era that the evil cretins like to call the progressive era.  The 16th, 17th and 18th Amendments were devastating attacks on our freedom.  While we were smart enough to repeal the 18th Amendment, we have allowed the 16th and 17th Amendments to stand and continue the erosion of our Republican form of government and personal liberties.

What the Founders would probably be even more disappointed with if they were to return and see what we have done with the great country and system of government they gave us would be how we have allowed the repressive liberals to change things via judicial interpretation.  After the great repressive era, these evil cretins saw how hard it was to fundamentally change our country through the Constitutional process and they have focused on unconstitutional ways to destroy America.  Repressive liberal activist judges and presidential executive orders are the tools of choice these days.

It is time for TRUE conservatives to quit playing Google footsie with these evil repressive liberal cretins and take a REAL stand in preserving our liberties and RESTORING our Constitution.  We need to help educate and inform our friends and neighbors and most of all we have to actively take to the street to help good conservatives get elected to every level of government.

Ok. Lets do away with the 16th amendment.  

How do you propose to fund federal government?  Especially the national defense and engagement in war activities.  You know, the main reason why there was need to supplement government revenue and establish a federal income tax in the first place.

BTW, the 16th amendment was launched during the administration of a Republican POTUS - Taft.

Numerous plans have been proposed. The Fair Tax, which is essentially a sales tax/consumption tax, seems to be the most reasonable alternative. Not only would it remove all payroll taxes but it would tax consumption rather than production and would give us a much more vibrant economy including removing the dead weight loss imposed on the economy with the billions of dollars spent complying with the bloated income tax code.

Actually after the Civil War income tax expired, Democrats were the main proponents of an income tax with Williams Jennings Bryan advocating not only an income tax to punish wealthy Eastern bankers and industrialists, but to institute an inflationary hard metal monetary system by including silver as well as gold backing the dollar.

Oh Gomezz please stop playing Google footsie with me. You know how that makes Mr Jammer angry.

Jammer wrote:

Shortie's Ex wrote:And Mr Jammer relative to the 17th amendment I would think that ultimate personal freedom is be actively and directly involved in electing representatives to the federal government.  All of them.

Can you imagine the result if the current crew in the State House in Pierre were to be responsible to select our state's representation to the US Senate?

These comments by the Sleazy Slut are so typical of what you hear from the repressive liberal useful idiots.  They are grossly uninformed on just what our system of government is supposed to be.  The devastation of our educational system in this country by these evil cretins is to blame for this.  For the last 100 years these repressive liberals have sought to remove the Constitution and our Founding Principles from our schools.  They have demonized the Founding Fathers to further their assault on the wonderful system of government they gave us.

Conservatives should not be wasting their time playing Google footsie with these evil cretins.  We should be spending our time better learning these things ourselves.  We should then take the time to talk to our friends, neighbors and relatives to inform them.  This is the only way we can stop these evil cretins.

As Thomas Jefferson said:

If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed.

I commend nightlight for his comment above about being involved with Hillsdale College.  Hillsdale College is just an excellent resource for conservatives and liberty loving Americans.  I encourage every conservative to get involved with them and receive their Imprimis.  I would also encourage you to consider attending one of their Hostels, Freedom Forums or other events.  You will never regret your experience with this wonderful organization.

Hillsdale Hostels
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/hillsdale-hostel/

Freedom Forums
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/freedom-forums/

Free Market Forum
https://www.hillsdale.edu/educational-outreach/free-market-forum/


Why waste your time on here arguing with these repressive liberal mental midgets.  You will never ever change their minds.  They are evil people and are intent on spreading evil.  Our best weapon against these evil cretins is to be one step ahead of them informing our friends and neighbors of the TRUTH.

So you've got nothing.

Shortie's Ex wrote:Oh Gomezz please stop playing Google footsie with me.  You know how that makes Mr Jammer angry.

WRONG bitch, disappointed - maybe, confused certainly but definitely not angry.  Not everyone has the same capabilities.  There will be conservatives somewhere who have the talent and motivation to make a difference in this battle against evil.  And then there will always be some who are only capable of communicating with a brick wall.  Everyone has to find their niche, just like you filling the role of "useful idiot" for the repressive liberal elitists.