There is no difference between a democrat and a socialist

Can there be any doubt that the democrat party has been taken over by the socialists in this country?  Oh many of them will deny it, but if you are looking at a democrat, you are looking at a socialist.  They may not want to openly admit it, but there is no longer any doubt.

Take a look at the platform for the socialist party in this country and compare it and their demands with what democrats believe in.  There is virtually no difference.

http://socialistparty-usa.net/platform.html

I suggest that you print out many of the platform points if not all of them, but leave out any mention of the socialist party.  Then approach the democrats living on your street and ask them how many of the items they disagree with.  There will be very few if any.  Here is just a sampling of what you will find in the link above:

• We call for a minimum wage of $15 per hour, indexed to the cost of living.
• We call for a full employment policy. We support the provision of a livable guaranteed annual income.
• We call for the restoration of the capital gains tax and luxury tax on a progressive, graduated scale.
• We support the right of public sector workers to strike.
• We call for recognizing a union based on cards signed.
• We call for a steeply graduated income tax and a steeply graduated estate tax, and a maximum income of no more than ten times the minimum.  We oppose regressive taxes such as payroll tax, sales tax, and property taxes.
• We call for the end of all anti-gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender (GLBTQ) restrictions in law and the work place, the repeal of all sodomy laws, and the legalization of same-sex marriage.
• We call on all schools to adopt policies and procedures to address and prevent student violence and to ban discrimination against GLBTQ people throughout the educational system.
• We call for a federal ban on all forms of job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
• We demand that the Social Security system remain entirely within the public sector, with funding derived from a steeply graduated income tax on all income, earned and unearned.
• We demand full support for every woman's right to choose when, if, and how to have children, including the right to free abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, without interference or coercion.


When your dumbass liberal neighbor reveals just WHAT they really are, hand them a printout of the socialist party platform, "spit in his face" and tell the evil cretin to go where he belongs, HELL.

I beg to differ. I was a Democrat in the early 60s and active in political rallys etc. I left the party when it started to veer left and I was asked to do "activist" things. I would not support violence or even some demonstrations. This caused friction between me and the local party leaders so I quit and switched. At that time the Republican party was also moving to the center so I was happy with most of their policies. The Democrat party has been totally taken over by Socialists. I cannot even call them Progressive Liberals because they are now to the left of that group too.
I have a lot of friends and a couple of relatives who are Democrats but they are far to the right of their parties line. They do not go with the abortion thing or the immigration policy of the Dems but they simply won't switch. Another group that is finally getting it is the Millinennials. More of them are switching to independent now and are not going to vote the Dem hard line like they did when they were under 30.
My views have changed very little since I was in my early 20s, the Dem party ran away from me not the other way around. I simply can't stand how so many folks will stand in the voting booth and have to hold their nose while they vote for the people who are implementing policies that the complain about all day long.

Clicker wrote:I beg to differ.  I was a Democrat in the early 60s and active in political rallys etc.  I left the party when it started to veer left and I was asked to do "activist" things.  I would not support violence or even some demonstrations. This caused friction between me and the local party leaders so I quit and switched.  At that time the Republican party was also moving to the center so I was happy with most of their policies.  The Democrat party has been totally taken over by Socialists.  I cannot even call them Progressive Liberals because they are now to the left of that group too.  
I have a lot of friends and a couple of relatives who are Democrats but they are far to the right of their parties line.  They do not go with the abortion thing or the immigration policy of the Dems but they simply won't switch.  Another group that is finally getting it is the Millinennials.  More of them are switching to independent now and are not going to vote the Dem hard line like they did when they were under 30.
My views have changed very little since I was in my early 20s, the Dem party ran away from me not the other way around.  I simply can't stand how so many folks will stand in the voting booth and have to hold their nose while they vote for the people who are implementing policies that the complain about all day long.

HUH???  Unless I am misunderstanding something, everything you wrote just proves my point.  The democrat party is not the party of several decades ago, it is the party of socialists who try to hide their identity by calling themselves liberals.

I am sure there are some people who are still registered as democrats, support democrats and blindly vote for the “d” every election.   However, that is the point of my comment.  I believe people need to be actually doing something about what is happening to this country.

So, once again I will suggest that if your dumbass liberal neighbor reveals just WHAT they really are (a SOCIALIST), hand them a printout of the socialist party platform, "spit in his face" and tell the evil cretin to go where he belongs, HELL.

If you encounter somebody that doesn’t agree with all or most of what is on the socialist platform, then I suggest you point out to them they are supporting the wrong political party and they are in bed with the devil.  They should reregister as Independents and very carefully scrutinize the candidates and vote for the one that most closely represents their values and beliefs.  If the person is sincere in saying they don’t agree with most of the socialist platform they will vote for the Republican 8 times out of 10.

Perhaps I should have said that 8 times out of 10 they SHOULD have voted for the Republican.  People are gullible and human nature is a powerful force that often causes people to do the wrong thing.  In which case, there will still be way too many people voting for the socialist in “democrat clothing”.

Clicker, I have been thinking about your “I beg to differ” comment and believe that my confusion might come from two possible angles.  

The first is that I was not clear or detailed enough in my original comment and therefore you misunderstood a portion of the point that I was trying to make.  I may have been too brief and did not include what I thought would be an intuitive thought.  If you came across a low information voter registered as a democrat who said that they did not believe in the socialist platform but they were UNAWARE that it was nearly identical to the democrat platform, you would certainly not “spit in their face”.  In that situation the proper thing is to encourage the person to re-register as a Independent and quit supporting or voting for the democrat candidates.

The second possible angle is that you believe if your friend or relative who is registered as a democrat and votes for democrats says they disagree with many of the positions of the democrats on issues such as abortion and immigration they are in fact not “socialists”.  However, on that angle if these people are still registered democrats and vote for democrats, then I think they ARE socialists.  Let me use an analogy to help explain my logic on that position.

Let’s say your friend Bubba belongs to the “dimwit gang” who have been bank robbers for decades.  Bubba was the driver of the gang’s getaway car and didn’t have full knowledge of what went on during the bank robberies. Originally these people only robbed banks and never ever took a penny from an individual let alone harm a single person.  They considered themselves sort of a band of Robin Hood’s Merry Men robbing from the greedy wealthy banks and redistributing the wealth.

Now let’s say that over time some of the “dimwit gang” retired or got out of the bank robbing business for whatever reason.  They were replaced by new members who were much more aggressive and violent.  As a result not only did they begin to rob the individual people in the bank but they began killing people who got in their way.  In fact, the violence reached the point that the first thing the “dimwit gang” did when they entered a bank was to murder the security guard and any bank tellers who did not follow their instructions immediately.

This caused a tremendous backlash against the “dimwit gang” by the public.  They began calling them MURDERERS rather than the “dimwit gang” or the gang’s new preferred name of “Robin’s Merry Men”.  Of course, as Bubba’s friend you are outraged that people would refer to your friend as a murderer.  However, if you informed Bubba (who was not the sharpest pencil in the drawer) that he was in fact part of a gang of murderers and he chose not to leave the group and quit driving the getaway car, well he too was a MURDERER.

I don’t care how many times Bubba says that he doesn’t condone murder or other violence, if he continues to belong to and support the “dimwit gang” he is a murderer.  Now take that back to the original point of discussion.  If a member of the democrat party (dimwit gang) who prefers to be called “Robin’s Merry Men” (progressives) won’t leave the democrat party (dimwit gang) and quit “driving the getaway car” (supporting and voting for democrats), well then Bubba is in fact a SOCIALIST just like the people who run the democrat party (dimwit gang”.

In order to be a murderer, you have to actually take part in murdering someone. Very stupid analogy.

Ham Flower? wrote:In order to be a murderer, you have to actually take part in murdering someone. Very stupid analogy.

Shut up SOCIALIST

Many of the older generation votes democrat based on its early ideals...it was the working man's political party. Anyone who follows politics realizes that ended decades ago but these older people have been so ingrained they refuse to believe what is in front of their eyes. The news media has been spoon feeding them propaganda since they were young and still believe the news is largely unbiased. Most of these people are low information voters and don't spend the time or energy to learn what is actually happening in this country. They believe there is a Social Security lock box and an endless stream of money will come their way as promised. They refuse to acknowledge our country is financially bankrupt and personally don't care as long as they get theirs. They will soon become the expendables with Obamacare and essentially will be killed off as quickly as possible through denied and reduced care. Like the Jews walking into the showers of Auschwitz  they will refuse to believe anything nefarious is underfoot and will continue to vote for the same people that are ordering their deaths. Younger Americans will be told they have taken enough and their quick passing will only help ensure their benefits are delivered as promised. Many in this country has accepted infanticide and the harvesting of organs from murdered babies doesn't even raise their concern. One day soon, they will be treated the same way with as callous of attitude and lack of concern by society.

Darth Cheney wrote:Most of these people are low information voters and don't spend the time or energy to learn what is actually happening in this country.

Some darn good illustrations and validations of the low information voters are the people interviewed on WATTER'S WORLD.

This has probably been around the block a few times over the years but still worth the read.

FATHER-DAUGHTER TALK

This is one of the better emails I have received. It gently explains the
difference in thinking between people with opposite outlooks.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many
others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other
liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more
government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
 
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a
feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had
participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her
father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he
thought should be his.
 
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on
the rich and the need for more government programs.
 
The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the
truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was
doing in school.
 
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let
him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very
difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to
go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a
boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all
her time studying.
 
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"
 
She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes,
she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus;
college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots
of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."
 
Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office
and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only
has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be
a fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired
back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard
for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey
has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my
tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the
conservative side of the fence." If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great
test!
 
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
 
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for
everyone.
 
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him..
 
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
 
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.  

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
it, or may choose a job that provides it..
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.  

Jammer wrote:I may have been too brief ...

Not a chance. Really not a chance.

Socialism is an interesting thing.  When people think of socialism they think of people like Stalin and Hitler, neither of which were socialists.  Hitler was a Fascist, which is way, way to the right end of the spectrum.  Trademarked by his feelling of racial superiority.  Stalin was a Totalitarian.  He propagated his dictatorship as being Socialist to gain support, but it was far from it.  Heck it was even to the left of communism.  If you want to see true Socialism in action you need to look toward modern day Germany.

Even the head of the national democrat party can't explain the differences between a democrat and a socialist.  No surprise, as there are none.




http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/31/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-chair-cant-name-diffe/

Jammer wrote:Even the head of the national democrat party can't explain the differences between a democrat and a socialist.  No surprise, as there are none.




http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/31/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-chair-cant-name-diffe/

And what's wrong with being a Socialist?  Germany seems to be doing fine with it...

Dr. Jones wrote:Socialism is an interesting thing.  When people think of socialism they think of people like Stalin and Hitler, neither of which were socialists.  Hitler was a Fascist, which is way, way to the right end of the spectrum.  Trademarked by his feelling of racial superiority.  Stalin was a Totalitarian.  He propagated his dictatorship as being Socialist to gain support, but it was far from it.  Heck it was even to the left of communism.  If you want to see true Socialism in action you need to look toward modern day Germany.

It is essentially all the same and history has proven it. Pure socialism is impossible to achieve on its own....workers will not give up their fruits of labor for the good of all. Then, in order to accomplish this you need government to mandate this utopia at the barrel of a gun. What happens is shared misery and despair and has been proven time after time after time throughout history. Communism is Socialism's ugly brother that is impossible to ignore and always shows up. Unfortunately, leaches such as yourself, have sucked off the government teat your entire life and have been taught you are "entitled" and "deserve" fruits of others. You are a slug, a parasite upon free people and self determination. You will be soon swept into the dustbin of history for another century until your ilk once again rears its ugly head and ideals again and sucker the gullible into thinking: "this time it's different...this can work!"

Darth Cheney wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Socialism is an interesting thing.  When people think of socialism they think of people like Stalin and Hitler, neither of which were socialists.  Hitler was a Fascist, which is way, way to the right end of the spectrum.  Trademarked by his feelling of racial superiority.  Stalin was a Totalitarian.  He propagated his dictatorship as being Socialist to gain support, but it was far from it.  Heck it was even to the left of communism.  If you want to see true Socialism in action you need to look toward modern day Germany.

It is essentially all the same and history has proven it. Pure socialism is impossible to achieve on its own....workers will not give up their fruits of labor for the good of all. Then, in order to accomplish this you need government to mandate this utopia at the barrel of a gun. What happens is shared misery and despair and has been proven time after time after time throughout history. Communism is Socialism's ugly brother that is impossible to ignore and always shows up.  Unfortunately, leaches such as yourself, have sucked off the government teat your entire life and have been taught you are "entitled" and "deserve" fruits of others. You are a slug, a parasite upon free people and self determination. You will be soon swept into the dustbin of history for another century until your ilk once again rears its ugly head and ideals again and sucker the gullible into thinking: "this time it's different...this can work!"

You “nailed it”.  Socialism has never ever built anything, it only tears down the wealth created by others as the worthless socialist parasites drain the national resources to fund their lazy evil ways.

These assholes often try to paint certain countries that have a form of democratic socialism as shining examples of how socialism works so well.  But none of these assholes have ever lived in these countries and know nothing about what is happening other than what Google can find them on the biased and lying Mother Jones website.

Norway is one of their favorite examples, but after having been shown the fact that Norway is rapidly moving away from socialism, they come up with others such as Germany.  

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/091013-670515-australia-norway-move-right-in-national-elections.htm

Unfortunately these dumbasses are so stupid that they don’t realize Germany would still be a pile of rubble if not for the money poured into that country by the United States courtesy of our system of capitalism. And later those resources would also help to rebuild Eastern Europe, a country left in ruin thanks to socialism.  

These dumbasses also don’t realize that Angela Merkel grew up in East Germany and knows firsthand the evils of socialism.  Therefore she is modestly conservative and very much an “analytical” thinker, not a touchy feely kind of dumbass liberal.  She is nudging Germany away from the evils of socialism as fast as she stealthily can.

Skeptical wrote:
This has probably been around the block a few times over the years but still worth the read.

FATHER-DAUGHTER TALK

This is one of the better emails I have received. It gently explains the
difference in thinking between people with opposite outlooks.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many
others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other
liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more
government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
 
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a
feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had
participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her
father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he
thought should be his.
 
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on
the rich and the need for more government programs.
 
The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the
truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was
doing in school.
 
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let
him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very
difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to
go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a
boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all
her time studying.
 
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"
 
She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes,
she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus;
college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots
of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."
 
Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office
and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only
has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be
a fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired
back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard
for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey
has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my
tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the
conservative side of the fence." If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great
test!
 
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
 
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for
everyone.
 
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him..
 
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
 
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.  

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
it, or may choose a job that provides it..
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.  

That is a classic chain email. Awesome!

Ham Flower? wrote:

Skeptical wrote:
This has probably been around the block a few times over the years but still worth the read.

FATHER-DAUGHTER TALK

 

That is a classic chain email. Awesome!

And you are a classic "useful idiot".   Pathetic !!!!

You have got to love it when the rotating rod of reality gets shoved up the asses of these dumbass socialists.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/01/seattle-ceo-who-set-firm-minimum-wage-to-70g-rents-house-to-make-ends-meet/

Perhaps a few, more than likely a VERY few, of these dumbass socialists might come to their senses.  It is very difficult for people to change their behavior, it almost always takes a "significant emotional event" for that change to occur.  

So one more time I will urge conservatives to "spit in the face" and "kick dirt on the shoes" of your liberal friends, neighbors and relatives.  Merely talking to them about their evil ways will never get them to change, they need a "significant emotional event" somewhat like this Seattle CEO got.

Dr. Jones wrote:Socialism is an interesting thing.  When people think of socialism they think of people like Stalin and Hitler, neither of which were socialists.  Hitler was a Fascist, which is way, way to the right end of the spectrum.  Trademarked by his feelling of racial superiority.  Stalin was a Totalitarian.  He propagated his dictatorship as being Socialist to gain support, but it was far from it.  Heck it was even to the left of communism.  If you want to see true Socialism in action you need to look toward modern day Germany.

I've never read such tripe in my life. Your lack of knowledge of political science transcends ignorance. Go back to farming. Isn't there a sheep somewhere in need of your loving?

Gomezz Adddams wrote:

Dr. Jones wrote:Socialism is an interesting thing.  When people think of socialism they think of people like Stalin and Hitler, neither of which were socialists.  Hitler was a Fascist, which is way, way to the right end of the spectrum.  Trademarked by his feelling of racial superiority.  Stalin was a Totalitarian.  He propagated his dictatorship as being Socialist to gain support, but it was far from it.  Heck it was even to the left of communism.  If you want to see true Socialism in action you need to look toward modern day Germany.

I've never read such tripe in my life. Your lack of knowledge of political science transcends ignorance. Go back to farming. Isn't there a sheep somewhere in need of your loving?

Really? Why is that?

Hitler's hate for unions:


http://peoplesworld.org/today-in-labor-history-nazis-destroy-unions/

Hitler's love for homosexuals.

http://www.holocaust-trc.org/homosexuals/

Stalin put the kibosh to unions:

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/coll.html

Evil has been with us since creation and at times seems that it is pervasive.  Therefore conservatives need to stand strong against it and defeat it.  The first step in doing so is not to be tempted by the utopia it always wants to offer.

From the very first temptation of mankind to the temptations being used by the evil cretins today, they all have the same threads of commonality.  Consider that the devil himself promised Eve that she and Adam would become god like if they ate the forbidden fruit.  He then cast doubt on God’s Word and character denying that God had Eve’s best interest in mind.  The devil then used outright lies, distortions and misrepresentations to convince her do turn away from God and all that he had provided.

That is so very similar to Jackoff Jones’ (the devil incarnate), attempts to persuade people to turn away from capitalism and accept the evils of socialism.  Take a look at the references being provided by the evil cretin Jackoff Jones:

http://peoplesworld.org/about-us

And you will find the following information right on their website:

“People's World and Mundo Popular are known for partisan coverage. We take sides. Yours.  The editorial mission is partisan to the working class, people of color, women, young people, seniors, LGBT community, to international solidarity; to popularize the ideas of Marxism and Bill of Rights socialism.”

Just like Adam and Eve who lost Paradise because they fell for the temptations offered by the devil, our children and grandchildren will suffer if we fall to the temptations offered by the evil cretin socialists and accept the evil they are selling.  We must stand strong against these evil people.  Spit in their face, kick dirt on their shoes, but most of all walk away from evil and do not listen to their temptations.

Jammer wrote:Evil has been with us since creation and at times seems that it is pervasive.  Therefore conservatives need to stand strong against it and defeat it.  The first step in doing so is not to be tempted by the utopia it always wants to offer.

From the very first temptation of mankind to the temptations being used by the evil cretins today, they all have the same threads of commonality.  Consider that the devil himself promised Eve that she and Adam would become god like if they ate the forbidden fruit.  He then cast doubt on God’s Word and character denying that God had Eve’s best interest in mind.  The devil then used outright lies, distortions and misrepresentations to convince her do turn away from God and all that he had provided.

That is so very similar to Jackoff Jones’ (the devil incarnate), attempts to persuade people to turn away from capitalism and accept the evils of socialism.  Take a look at the references being provided by the evil cretin Jackoff Jones:

http://peoplesworld.org/about-us

And you will find the following information right on their website:

“People's World and Mundo Popular are known for partisan coverage. We take sides. Yours.  The editorial mission is partisan to the working class, people of color, women, young people, seniors, LGBT community, to international solidarity; to popularize the ideas of Marxism and Bill of Rights socialism.”

Just like Adam and Eve who lost Paradise because they fell for the temptations offered by the devil, our children and grandchildren will suffer if we fall to the temptations offered by the evil cretin socialists and accept the evil they are selling.  We must stand strong against these evil people.  Spit in their face, kick dirt on their shoes, but most of all walk away from evil and do not listen to their temptations.

Maybe this site is more pleasing to your sensitive pallet

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/trade-unions-and-nazi-germany/


If so, maybe you could try speaking to the facts instead of blowing smoke.

Also if you are going to bring the bible into a conversation maybe you should brush up a bit on your scripture. By and large the bible is a socialistic handbook. May want to check into it...