Las Vegas Attack

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Since the tragedy in Las Vegas the worshippers of the former HMWAIC and head socialist are again like sheep and following in lockstep formation calling for more gun control legislation.

There are enough gun control laws/regulations on the book already and still there was carnage in Las Vegas.

Everybody but the liberal mind understands the gun was simply used by a person to carry out this horrible deed.

What new restrictions could/would be imposed on the law abiding gun owner/prospective gun owner with additional gun control laws that will not prevent future mass murders?

How did these countries do it?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Since the tragedy in Las Vegas the worshippers of the former HMWAIC and head socialist are again like sheep and following in lockstep formation calling for more gun control legislation.

There are enough gun control laws/regulations on the book already and still there was carnage in Las Vegas.

Everybody but the liberal mind understands the gun was simply used by a person to carry out this horrible deed.

What new restrictions could/would be imposed on the law abiding gun owner/prospective gun owner with additional gun control laws that will not prevent future mass murders?

How did these countries do it?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html

Are you suggesting the Australian remedy to a mass murder incident be instituted in the US?

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Since the tragedy in Las Vegas the worshippers of the former HMWAIC and head socialist are again like sheep and following in lockstep formation calling for more gun control legislation.

There are enough gun control laws/regulations on the book already and still there was carnage in Las Vegas.

Everybody but the liberal mind understands the gun was simply used by a person to carry out this horrible deed.

What new restrictions could/would be imposed on the law abiding gun owner/prospective gun owner with additional gun control laws that will not prevent future mass murders?

How did these countries do it?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html

Are you suggesting the Australian remedy to a mass murder incident be instituted in the US?

For right now,  I'm simply refuting the silly notion that "There's nothing we can do".

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Since the tragedy in Las Vegas the worshippers of the former HMWAIC and head socialist are again like sheep and following in lockstep formation calling for more gun control legislation.

There are enough gun control laws/regulations on the book already and still there was carnage in Las Vegas.

Everybody but the liberal mind understands the gun was simply used by a person to carry out this horrible deed.

What new restrictions could/would be imposed on the law abiding gun owner/prospective gun owner with additional gun control laws that will not prevent future mass murders?

How did these countries do it?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html

Australia's citizens who may want to own a gun is subject to the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), also sometimes called the National Agreement on Firearms, the National Firearms Agreement and Buyback Program, or the Nationwide Agreement on Firearms

As for the UK, The right to keep and bear arms is not legally or constitutionally protected in the United Kingdom. ... The right to bear arms was not specifically protected in the United Kingdom until the Bill of Rights of 1689, and then only for Protestants

If you had used a little effort to search you would notice neither country has a constitutional guarantee of a natural right therefore it was quite easy for them to override common sense with misguided emotions and ban or at least make gun ownership extremely difficult as well as restricted to certain types.

Did they get the job done?

Considering neither country had the obstacle of a Constitutional guaranteed preservation of a natural right they were effective in denying/hampering people the ability to own guns.

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Jammer wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Since the tragedy in Las Vegas the worshippers of the former HMWAIC and head socialist are again like sheep and following in lockstep formation calling for more gun control legislation.

There are enough gun control laws/regulations on the book already and still there was carnage in Las Vegas.

Everybody but the liberal mind understands the gun was simply used by a person to carry out this horrible deed.

What new restrictions could/would be imposed on the law abiding gun owner/prospective gun owner with additional gun control laws that will not prevent future mass murders?

How did these countries do it?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html

Australia's citizens who may want to own a gun is subject to the National Firearms Agreement (NFA), also sometimes called the National Agreement on Firearms, the National Firearms Agreement and Buyback Program, or the Nationwide Agreement on Firearms

As for the UK, The right to keep and bear arms is not legally or constitutionally protected in the United Kingdom. ... The right to bear arms was not specifically protected in the United Kingdom until the Bill of Rights of 1689, and then only for Protestants

If you had used a little effort to search you would notice neither country has a constitutional guarantee of a natural right therefore it was quite easy for them to override common sense with misguided emotions and ban or at least make gun ownership extremely difficult as well as restricted to certain types.

Did they get the job done?

Considering neither country had the obstacle of a Constitutional guaranteed preservation of a natural right they were effective in denying/hampering people the ability to own guns.

The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

This asshole's approach is to feed you distorted data.  You should not care about deaths or death rates by guns, that is simply BS.  You should be interested in murders and murder rates period.  Of course, if you take away the guns, deaths BY GUNS will go down, BUT WHAT DID THE OVERALL MURDER RATE DO?  I think you will find it actually went up.  Harder to get guns, no problem we will just kill them in a different way.

The other thing is I bet the jackass is measuring all deaths NOT JUST MURDERS.  A huge problem is SUCIDE.  And in this country, that is a big factor as well as hunting accidents.  So, you should be interested in MURDERS, NOT ACCIDENTAL DEATHS REGARDLESS OF THE MEANS.

I think when you sort thru all his head fakes and other deceptions including outright LIES, you will determine that the data DOES NOT SUPPORT HIS POSITION.  I think you will see the overall murder rate actually went up after the gun ban.  And I think you will find that only recently has it gotten back to pre-ban levels.  But the reason has nothing to do with gun control, the Brits finally started putting more police on the street.  There are always other factors.

And don’t be surprise when the lying sack of dogshit starts comparing rates between the US and the UK or whatever country he cherry picks.  Well you NEED TO FILTER THE DATA to take out murders in inner city cesspools like Chicago and Baltimore.  Also filter the deaths by race and you will see a big part of our problem is with LIBERAL BLACKS IN INNER CITIES.

Don’t let this asshole have a platform to spread his lies and deception.  Nail his ass with actual data that IS PERTINENT TO THE ISSUE.

HIS DATA IS PURE BULLSHIT
THAT IS HOW LIBERALS SELL THEIR AGENDA

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/takingnote/2015/10/08/republicans-didnt-always-march-to-the-national-rifle-associations-drum/?referer=

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/takingnote/2015/10/08/republicans-didnt-always-march-to-the-national-rifle-associations-drum/?referer=

IRRELEVANT ASSHOLE  

Jammer wrote:I completely agree with you.  However, my point is that if you are going to get into a tit for tat with this LYING piece of dogshit, don’t let his faulty distorted and misrepresented data go unchallenged.  His George Soros funded website provides him a laundry list of well thought out distortions that help make his EVIL AGENDA look so wonderful.

The starting point with this asshole if you are going to go back and forth with him is to ask yourself “WHERE ARE THE LIES, THE DISTORTIONS AND THE MISREPRESENTATIONS in the picture he is painting.  I did not look at what he was posting as I don’t want to waste my time getting into that much detail with this closed-minded cretin.  However, I know how liberals operate and this piece of dogshit is no different.  The facts are not on their side so they must distort, misrepresent and lie.  If you don’t know that and read their propaganda, it sounds good.

I will be greatly surprised that when you drill down into his data, if what I said above wasn't pretty accurate.  It is how they operate.[/size]

Skeptical wrote:Anybody have any info if Stephen Paddock's body was checked for of GSR (Gunshot Residue) and the results ?

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:Anybody have any info if Stephen Paddock's body was checked for of GSR (Gunshot Residue) and the results ?

Dr. Evil wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/takingnote/2015/10/08/republicans-didnt-always-march-to-the-national-rifle-associations-drum/?referer=

IRRELEVANT ASSHOLE  

You mean to tell me that the most celebrated conservative(if you consider him a conservative) of all time being for banning assault weapons is irrelevant? Good luck with that...

Darth Cheney wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/takingnote/2015/10/08/republicans-didnt-always-march-to-the-national-rifle-associations-drum/?referer=

IRRELEVANT ASSHOLE  

You mean to tell me that the most celebrated conservative(if you consider him a conservative) of all time being for banning assault weapons is irrelevant? Good luck with that...

What is an assault weapon and where can you purchase them?

Darth Cheney wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Jammer wrote:

Dr. Evil wrote:

Skeptical wrote:

Jammer wrote:The way to fight this battle with this piece of dogshit is with data and facts.  Of course, he will never accept them.  He only accepts his feelings and manipulated data that helps him sell his evil agenda.

Aw heck Jammer, we all know what the liberal agenda is concerning the right to bear arms.
The liberals want it taken out of the Bill of Rights so bad they can't think right .. as if they ever could and have either total ban and confiscation of guns and/or if any person is allowed a gun they will dictate what it is.

Total control over all aspects of daily life is also desired.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/takingnote/2015/10/08/republicans-didnt-always-march-to-the-national-rifle-associations-drum/?referer=

IRRELEVANT ASSHOLE  

You mean to tell me that the most celebrated conservative(if you consider him a conservative) of all time being for banning assault weapons is irrelevant? Good luck with that...

What is an assault weapon and where can you purchase them?

Jammer wrote:I was hoping that Skeptical would challenge the distorted and mispresented data posted by Jackoff Jones in his attempt to advocate for repeal of our 2nd Amendment rights.  However, it doesn’t look like he is going to so I will take a stab at it.

First here is the propaganda link that Jackoff posted:


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/world/gun-control-uk-australia/index.html


So how does Jackoff come up with all his information.  Well, since he is a George Soros paid useful idiot, he has access to the George Soros funded website he uses.  Anytime he is looking for talking points or copy and paste material he goes to the Soros website and enters the issue he wants information for into the site’s search engine which takes him to a treasure trove of far-left leaning propaganda.

The Soros website mostly compiles the various information and catalogs it for their useful idiots like Jackoff Jones.  However, they do have a staff of people assigned to actually write the material which they try to get various liberal writers and news outlets to publish.  They find that releasing this slanted and sometimes even outright FAKE NEWS has more credibility if it comes from an established source.

In any event, at this point Jackoff Jones is watering at the mouth because of all the propaganda he has access to that will help him convince people that the EVIL AGENDA of the communist left is so wonderful.  Not only do they make the information sound good, but if FEELS so warm and fuzzy.

Look at the graph in the link Jackoff posted.  Now think about a “low information” voter who reads this crap.  The vast majority of these mental midgets will read the article and then see the graph and think that this Jackoff Jones has the miracle cure for our problems in this country.

However, now slice thru the data.  Guess what, it is TOTAL GUN DEATHS – not just homicides.   In fact, two-thirds of the gun deaths in this country are accidental and suicides.  They are irrelevant.  Think about these nut jobs who want to kill themselves, do you think they wouldn’t come up with another way if a gun is not readily available?

Well then, what about the low deaths in other countries like England that Jackoff bragged about.  Take a look at the information in the following link:


https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/compendium/focusonviolentcrimeandsexualoffences/yearendingmarch2016/homicide


Make sure you look down the article until you get to Figure 2.1.  There you will see the real truth, the HOMICIDES in England rose dramatically AFTER THE GUN BAN.  Huh, I wonder why the communist propaganda pusher didn’t explain that.  Well you can ban guns, but that doesn’t stop people from killing other people.  But that doesn’t serve their narrative well, so they distort and misrepresent the data to sell their EVIL AGENDA.

Another thing they don’t tell you is that homicides in England didn’t start to go down until they put more cops on the street and started taking the bad guys off the street.  Funny how that seems to possibly have been the right answer in the first place.  But that won’t get any votes for gun control, so don’t expect to hear that from Jackoff Jones.

Another factor in this country is race.  Blacks are something like 5 times more likely to kill somebody than is a white person.  And if you throw in the inner-city aspect of this problem, the data reveals another problem of liberal cesspools run by corrupt demonrats.  Slimy liberals somehow seem to always be at the bottom of way too many problems in this country.  

So what else is this lying piece of dogshit not telling us.  Well how about home burglaries.    Well anyone who has lived in these so called “gun free” countries will tell you, home burglaries are the national pastime.  

When Jackoff hears that fact, he will shout out that we have home burglaries in this country too.  Well yes, but not at the same rate and more importantly not in the same manner.  In the US if a bad guy wants to rob your house, he more than likely will spend an enormous amount of time “casing the joint” so he can rob it when you are not there.  Well not so in England and other “gun free” countries.  In those countries the burglars are much more likely to rob a house when people are IN THE HOUSE than when it is empty.

You ask, “why the difference between the US and the wonderful “gun free” countries.  Well it seems that in the US the burglars are very concerned about the home owner having a gun and shooting his ass, something they don’t worry about in “gun free” countries.  So if you live in a “gun free” country, be prepared to encounter someone milling about your house if you have to go to the toilet in the middle of the night.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Jackoff Jones is a very “closed-minded cretin.  In fact, he will never ever change his mind on any of his communist ideals.  Oh, he may give you a head fake once in a while and try to appear like he is neutral or possibly wavering on an issue, but that is pure bullshit.

People need to understand that it is a waste of time communicating with a closed-minded jerk like Jackoff.  However, if on the outside chance you come across the extremely rare open-minded liberal, good things can happen.  Take a look at the following link to see what happens when an open-minded liberal encounters the truth.  I am sure none of you have ever experienced that with Jackoff and trust me, you never will.


http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/opinion/4338076-commentary-i-used-think-gun-control-was-answer-my-research-told-me-otherwise


One thing that conservatives should always consider is how they leave this DISTORTED AND MISREPRESENTED DATA lying around.  What happens when an “innocent bystander” reads the link like Jackoff Jones posted above.  All too often we lose another person to the dark side and we don’t need any more communists like Jackoff Jones in this country.  Please challenge his FALSE DATA and make sure everyone knows that:

JACKOFF JONES IS A LIAR WHO IS SELLING AN EVIL AGENDA

Year ending March 2001 includes 58 Chinese nationals who suffocated in a lorry en route into the UK.

Year ending March 2003 includes 172 victims of Dr Harold Shipman.

Year ending March 2004 includes 20 cockle pickers who drowned in Morecambe Bay.

Year ending March 2006 includes 52 victims of the 7 July London bombings.

Jammer wrote:Never said that ASSHOLE.  Homicides are homicides, they count them ALL every year jackass.  Cherry pick all you want, the facts are homicides still went up and not down no matter how you want to cherry pick.  Keep on deflecting because your lies are indefensible

YOU ARE A LYING SACK OF DOGSHIT

Dr. Evil wrote:

Jammer wrote:Never said that ASSHOLE.  Homicides are homicides, they count them ALL every year jackass.  Cherry pick all you want, the facts are homicides still went up and not down no matter how you want to cherry pick.  Keep on deflecting because your lies are indefensible

YOU ARE A LYING SACK OF DOGSHIT

And did the article I posted refer to all homicides or gun violence going down?

Skeptical wrote: Everybody but the liberal mind understands the gun was simply used by a person to carry out this horrible deed.

What new restrictions could/would be imposed on the law abiding gun owner/prospective gun owner with additional gun control laws that will not prevent future mass murders?

JACKOFF JONES THE LYING SACK OF DOGSHIT THEN wrote: How did these countries do it?  

And then you posted your DECEPTIVE article which wrote:  Gun homicide rates are 25.2 times higher in the US than in other high-income countries