Re: So It Begins.....

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:03 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote: WHAT ELSE WOULD THEY BE IN CONNECTION TO?!?! The JFK assassination???

You read my mind ... that will probably be the next charge from the left.

But in the meantime I gather by your deliberate dodge of providing any evidence or link to any evidence these indictments are directly related to Trump and/or the fake dossier or Russian collusion by Trump that you are just pissing in the wind?

Gather whatever makes you feel the most comfortable in your current shiitstorm.

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:04 pm

Jammer wrote:
Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

Oh, the Clintons along with Obama and dozens of his staff are in for some real legal problems. As for these charges, I have no idea if they are legitimate or not. But in any event, they are going to be considered very minor compared to what the demonrats will face in the coming months. There is every reason to believe that treason and other high crimes will be the charges levied against the evil socialist left.

Here is a glimpse at what the deomonats will probably face:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115

I hope they go with a public hanging for some of these evil cretins. Give the NFL players something to take a knee over.

For what?

Jammer Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:06 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

Oh, the Clintons along with Obama and dozens of his staff are in for some real legal problems. As for these charges, I have no idea if they are legitimate or not. But in any event, they are going to be considered very minor compared to what the demonrats will face in the coming months. There is every reason to believe that treason and other high crimes will be the charges levied against the evil socialist left.

Here is a glimpse at what the deomonats will probably face:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115

I hope they go with a public hanging for some of these evil cretins. Give the NFL players something to take a knee over.

For what?

Go back in your closet homo Jones.

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:18 pm

The desperation from the right is so funny it's almost tragic.... Crying or Very sad

Skeptical Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:42 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:This is possibly the best assessment of the indictments and what they actually say and mean. T investigation centers around things done well before involvement with Trump. Te only things listed after 2014 were lies told investigators about tax evasion on filings. Sorry loons, no cigar yet, well unless your name is Monica..........

This looks suspiciously like an old tried and true intimidate the "guilty" party till they squeal, Like Papadopolous.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/30/friendly-reminder-cbs-manafort-indictment-not-even-close-trump-putin-collusion-allegations/

As I said, why right now? Why go after Manafort for these things in the middle of this investigation if they're not pertinent to the case? And how is the history of Trump's campaign manager not important in this case?

Reading and comprehension of what you may read is not your strength is it??

TRY IT AGAIN ...

FACT: Manafort was already known to the justice department due to previous financial activities

The FBI's investigation of Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, includes a keen focus on a series of suspicious wire transfers in which offshore companies linked to Manafort moved more than $3 million all over the globe between 2012 and 2013.

Much of the money came into the United States.

These transactions — which have not been previously reported — drew the attention of federal law enforcement officials as far back as 2012, when they began to examine wire transfers to determine if Manafort hid money from tax authorities or helped the Ukrainian regime close to Russian President Vladimir Putin launder some of the millions it plundered through corrupt dealings.

Additionally there is this tidbit

March 29, 2016: Manafort joins the Trump campaign

May 19, 2016: Manafort is promoted to campaign chairman

August 19, 2016: Manafort resigns
The Trump campaign announced Manafort was resigning from the campaign, nearly 5 months after he joined.

You and your liberal/progressive/socialist have been screaming Trump colluded with the Russians for almost a year .. if not longer than a year and not one shred of evidence has been produced. It is entirely possible Mueller acted in the true partisan political action and went after somebody already known to be shady or engaged in illegal acts.

Clicker Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:55 pm

FARA, the act that Manafort is being brought in under, has seen no convictions since it's amendment in 1966. They're simply shaking the tree to see if they can gt Manafort to squeal in the face of dying in prison.

Clicker Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:31 pm

Can anybody say, RECUSAL?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/30/paul-manafort-judge-who-is-deborah-robinson.html

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:49 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:This is possibly the best assessment of the indictments and what they actually say and mean. T investigation centers around things done well before involvement with Trump. Te only things listed after 2014 were lies told investigators about tax evasion on filings. Sorry loons, no cigar yet, well unless your name is Monica..........

This looks suspiciously like an old tried and true intimidate the "guilty" party till they squeal, Like Papadopolous.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/30/friendly-reminder-cbs-manafort-indictment-not-even-close-trump-putin-collusion-allegations/

As I said, why right now? Why go after Manafort for these things in the middle of this investigation if they're not pertinent to the case? And how is the history of Trump's campaign manager not important in this case?

Reading and comprehension of what you may read is not your strength is it??

TRY IT AGAIN ...

FACT: Manafort was already known to the justice department due to previous financial activities

The FBI's investigation of Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, includes a keen focus on a series of suspicious wire transfers in which offshore companies linked to Manafort moved more than $3 million all over the globe between 2012 and 2013.

Much of the money came into the United States.

These transactions — which have not been previously reported — drew the attention of federal law enforcement officials as far back as 2012, when they began to examine wire transfers to determine if Manafort hid money from tax authorities or helped the Ukrainian regime close to Russian President Vladimir Putin launder some of the millions it plundered through corrupt dealings.

Additionally there is this tidbit

March 29, 2016: Manafort joins the Trump campaign

May 19, 2016: Manafort is promoted to campaign chairman

August 19, 2016: Manafort resigns
The Trump campaign announced Manafort was resigning from the campaign, nearly 5 months after he joined.

You and your liberal/progressive/socialist have been screaming Trump colluded with the Russians for almost a year .. if not longer than a year and not one shred of evidence has been produced. It is entirely possible Mueller acted in the true partisan political action and went after somebody already known to be shady or engaged in illegal acts.

No evidence? How about the fact that we know that Trump was the beneficiary of Russian election tampering? How about the fact that we know Flint, Sessions, and others had inappropriate conversations with Russian officials, including conversations about the very sanctions that were placed on them because of their messing with our election? How about Drumpf's wishy-washy attitude toward Putin and Russia's election interference after the election? How about Trump Jr's meeting with the Russians to discuss dirt on HRC? How about Tillerson's Russian connections? How about Comey's firing?

Clicker Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:10 pm

Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

It gets better, the plea deal indicates that he'd get zero to 6mos time and $500 to $9500 fine. Also he can request a forgiveness of the fine meaning he could walk if he give the Fed something they can use.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4164108-100517-USA-vs-Papadopoulos-Plea.html

What bigger carrot could there be to squeal like a stuck Democrat?

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:37 pm

Clicker wrote:
Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

It gets better, the plea deal indicates that he'd get zero to 6mos time and $500 to $9500 fine. Also he can request a forgiveness of the fine meaning he could walk if he give the Fed something they can use.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4164108-100517-USA-vs-Papadopoulos-Plea.html

What bigger carrot could there be to squeal like a stuck Democrat?

Are you serious? You know what we're talking about here, don't you?? "Squeal like a stuck Democrat"? So you're sayings he's a snitch. Not the phrase I would use for someone that is likely turning in for destroying one of the basic founding principles of our country, democraticly held elections. People died for our right to vote, and our right to hold fair elections. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero, he's far from one, but I sure as hell wouldn't call him a snitch. I'm grateful that he's done what he's done following his arrest.

Skeptical Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:

No evidence? How about the fact that we know that Trump was the beneficiary of Russian election tampering?

It is a proven historical fact Trump was the beneficiary of an overwhelming number of electoral votes to win the office of the President of the United States! It has been reported during the last month or so that there were anti Hillary ads on Facebook alleged to have Russian origin. If you any documentation from any and all voters who have sworn under oath they saw such ads and those ads caused them to NOT vote for Hillary, please post it.

How about the fact that we know Flint, Sessions, and others had inappropriate conversations with Russian officials, including conversations about the very sanctions that were placed on them because of their messing with our election?

Please provide the details of the conversations each of these people had with Russian officials and how it affected the outcome of the election. (Keep in mind Sessions admitted having talked with Russians during the course of his tenure as a U.S. Senator .. as well as did other sitting Senators)

How about Drumpf's wishy-washy attitude toward Putin and Russia's election interference after the election?

Yeah, what about it .. and how was it "wishy-washy"?

How about Trump Jr's meeting with the Russians to discuss dirt on HRC?

Yes, how about it ??

After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton," Trump said. "Her statements were vague, ambiguous, and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.

She then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of Russian children and mentioned the Magnitsky Act," he said. "It became clear to be that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting. I interrupted and advised her that my father was not an elected official, but rather a private citizen, and that her comments and concerns were better addressed if and when he held public office."

If you have proof of the meeting being anything different in content, by all means post it

What about Tillerson's Russian connections?

Jealousy sure is a motivator to create hatred isn't it?? Didn't it ever occur to you that as the former head of Exxon he WOULD have developed contacts all over the world his company did business?

How about Comey's firing?

Why do you continue to cry over spilled milk? Get real and deal with it. Everybody who ever had a job has a chance of being fired either directly by the boss or by the boss based upon recommendations by those closet to observe the work of the person fired!

Jammer Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:58 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:
Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

It gets better, the plea deal indicates that he'd get zero to 6mos time and $500 to $9500 fine. Also he can request a forgiveness of the fine meaning he could walk if he give the Fed something they can use.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4164108-100517-USA-vs-Papadopoulos-Plea.html

What bigger carrot could there be to squeal like a stuck Democrat?

Are you serious? You know what we're talking about here, don't you?? "Squeal like a stuck Democrat"? So you're sayings he's a snitch. Not the phrase I would use for someone that is likely turning in for destroying one of the basic founding principles of our country, democraticly held elections. People died for our right to vote, and our right to hold fair elections. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero, he's far from one, but I sure as hell wouldn't call him a snitch. I'm grateful that he's done what he's done following his arrest.

He is a wannabee big shot acting on his own trying to impress the heavyweights but screwed up and is now nothing but a SNITCH. Just your type of cretin.

Darth Cheney Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm

Clicker wrote:FARA, the act that Manafort is being brought in under, has seen no convictions since it's amendment in 1966. They're simply shaking the tree to see if they can gt Manafort to squeal in the face of dying in prison.

He would have to be found guilty in a trial which there is zero chance. A grand jury can indite because of suspicions...a guilty verdict is beyond a reasonable doubt, world's apart.

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:

No evidence? How about the fact that we know that Trump was the beneficiary of Russian election tampering?

It is a proven historical fact Trump was the beneficiary of an overwhelming number of electoral votes to win the office of the President of the United States! It has been reported during the last month or so that there were anti Hillary ads on Facebook alleged to have Russian origin. If you any documentation from any and all voters who have sworn under oath they saw such ads and those ads caused them to NOT vote for Hillary, please post it.

I never said the Russian tampering changed the outcome the election. Doesn't matter either way. What matters is that it happened. Period.

How about the fact that we know Flint, Sessions, and others had inappropriate conversations with Russian officials, including conversations about the very sanctions that were placed on them because of their messing with our election?

Please provide the details of the conversations each of these people had with Russian officials and how it affected the outcome of the election. (Keep in mind Sessions admitted having talked with Russians during the course of his tenure as a U.S. Senator .. as well as did other sitting Senators)

Again, I never said it effected the outcome of the election.

How about Drumpf's wishy-washy attitude toward Putin and Russia's election interference after the election?

Yeah, what about it .. and how was it "wishy-washy"?

The sanctions. Drumpf has not been holding Putin's feet to the fire with the congressionally requested sanctions.

How about Trump Jr's meeting with the Russians to discuss dirt on HRC?

Yes, how about it ??

After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton," Trump said. "Her statements were vague, ambiguous, and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.

She then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of Russian children and mentioned the Magnitsky Act," he said. "It became clear to be that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting. I interrupted and advised her that my father was not an elected official, but rather a private citizen, and that her comments and concerns were better addressed if and when he held public office."

If you have proof of the meeting being anything different in content, by all means post it

He agreed to the meeting under the context of her having dirt on HRC. That's all that matters. Regardless of what he claims was actually said.

What about Tillerson's Russian connections?

Jealousy sure is a motivator to create hatred isn't it?? Didn't it ever occur to you that as the former head of Exxon he WOULD have developed contacts all over the world his company did business?

More icing on an already very sugary cake.

How about Comey's firing?

Why do you continue to cry over spilled milk? Get real and deal with it. Everybody who ever had a job has a chance of being fired either directly by the boss or by the boss based upon recommendations by those closet to observe the work of the person fired!

There has to be a reason. What was the reason? Oh ya....Cheeto said it himself! Because of the Russia investigation!

Would any of these things of and by themselves be a big deal? No. But put put together, that's a lot of "coincidences". Only an idiot couldn't see that.

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:58 pm

Jammer wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:
Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

It gets better, the plea deal indicates that he'd get zero to 6mos time and $500 to $9500 fine. Also he can request a forgiveness of the fine meaning he could walk if he give the Fed something they can use.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4164108-100517-USA-vs-Papadopoulos-Plea.html

What bigger carrot could there be to squeal like a stuck Democrat?

Are you serious? You know what we're talking about here, don't you?? "Squeal like a stuck Democrat"? So you're sayings he's a snitch. Not the phrase I would use for someone that is likely turning in for destroying one of the basic founding principles of our country, democraticly held elections. People died for our right to vote, and our right to hold fair elections. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero, he's far from one, but I sure as hell wouldn't call him a snitch. I'm grateful that he's done what he's done following his arrest.

He is a wannabee big shot acting on his own trying to impress the heavyweights but screwed up and is now nothing but a SNITCH. Just your type of cretin.

Wanna be "big shot"?? Are you praising the type of behavior being investigated? As I said before, people died for your right to a fair election. Show some respect.

Jammer Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:11 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Jammer wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Clicker wrote:
Clicker wrote:5 yrs in jail and $250,000 fine for the crime of the century doesn't seem like much. I think I made a comment about them sucking in the minnows then squeezing them till they squealed, looks like that's exactly what happened. Those guys are lucky, if they'd been working for the Klintons, they'd all be dead by now.

It gets better, the plea deal indicates that he'd get zero to 6mos time and $500 to $9500 fine. Also he can request a forgiveness of the fine meaning he could walk if he give the Fed something they can use.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4164108-100517-USA-vs-Papadopoulos-Plea.html

What bigger carrot could there be to squeal like a stuck Democrat?

Are you serious? You know what we're talking about here, don't you?? "Squeal like a stuck Democrat"? So you're sayings he's a snitch. Not the phrase I would use for someone that is likely turning in for destroying one of the basic founding principles of our country, democraticly held elections. People died for our right to vote, and our right to hold fair elections. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero, he's far from one, but I sure as hell wouldn't call him a snitch. I'm grateful that he's done what he's done following his arrest.

He is a wannabee big shot acting on his own trying to impress the heavyweights but screwed up and is now nothing but a SNITCH. Just your type of cretin.

Wanna be "big shot"?? Are you praising the type of behavior being investigated? As I said before, people died for your right to a fair election. Show some respect.

This style of comeback by you is not only STUPID, but nobody and I mean nobody buys it. So take your kudos for coming out of the closet as a homosexual pervert and go away. By the way, now that you are out of the closet do you still identify as a man. If not, don't worry it won't surprise anyone on here to learn otherwise.

Skeptical Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:20 pm

If you have any documentation from any and all voters who have sworn under oath they saw such ads and those ads caused them to NOT vote for Hillary, please post it. (ADDED:) If you have any documented proof the Russians actually manipulated and/or changed votes, let's see it.

If you have proof of the meeting that Donald Jr. attended being anything different in content then what has been widely reported, by all means post it.

Admit you are drooling to have that Socialist Hillary as President so she can take from those who work and earn and give to those who are able but refuse but, all your wishing and wanting just isn't going to make the fake dossier and fake news true

Come on gator mouth, show your proof or shut up !

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:27 pm

Skeptical wrote:
If you have any documentation from any and all voters who have sworn under oath they saw such ads and those ads caused them to NOT vote for Hillary, please post it. (ADDED:) If you have any documented proof the Russians actually manipulated and/or changed votes, let's see it.

If you have proof of the meeting that Donald Jr. attended being anything different in content then what has been widely reported, by all means post it.

Admit you are drooling to have that Socialist Hillary as President so she can take from those who work and earn and give to those who are able but refuse but, all your wishing and wanting just isn't going to make the fake dossier and fake news true

Come on gator mouth, show your proof or shut up !

You better run along. Your straw man is getting away on you.

Skeptical Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:34 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
If you have any documentation from any and all voters who have sworn under oath they saw such ads and those ads caused them to NOT vote for Hillary, please post it. (ADDED:) If you have any documented proof the Russians actually manipulated and/or changed votes, let's see it.

If you have proof of the meeting that Donald Jr. attended being anything different in content then what has been widely reported, by all means post it.

Admit you are drooling to have that Socialist Hillary as President so she can take from those who work and earn and give to those who are able but refuse but, all your wishing and wanting just isn't going to make the fake dossier and fake news true

Come on gator mouth, show your proof or shut up !

You better run along. Your straw man is getting away on you.

Thanks for proving and admitting all you got is hoping on the lies of a fake dossier and innuendoes.

Come back when you ever get any proof of collusion, well other then the Hillary/Obama Uranium 1 collusion.

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:50 pm

Skeptical wrote:
Dr. Evil wrote:
Skeptical wrote:
If you have any documentation from any and all voters who have sworn under oath they saw such ads and those ads caused them to NOT vote for Hillary, please post it. (ADDED:) If you have any documented proof the Russians actually manipulated and/or changed votes, let's see it.

If you have proof of the meeting that Donald Jr. attended being anything different in content then what has been widely reported, by all means post it.

Admit you are drooling to have that Socialist Hillary as President so she can take from those who work and earn and give to those who are able but refuse but, all your wishing and wanting just isn't going to make the fake dossier and fake news true

Come on gator mouth, show your proof or shut up !

You better run along. Your straw man is getting away on you.

Thanks for proving and admitting all you got is hoping on the lies of a fake dossier and innuendoes.

Come back when you ever get any proof of collusion, well other then the Hillary/Obama Uranium 1 collusion.

I don't have to hope for anything. It's right there in plain view. All you have to do is quit ignoring it. You know as well as I do what's going on. Go ahead and keep playing your dumb games. It'll make it that much more fun to watch your whole program come crashing down.

Clicker Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:56 pm

Dr. Evil wrote:

Are you serious? You know what we're talking about here, don't you?? "Squeal like a stuck Democrat"? So you're sayings he's a snitch. Not the phrase I would use for someone that is likely turning in for destroying one of the basic founding principles of our country, democraticly held elections. People died for our right to vote, and our right to hold fair elections. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero, he's far from one, but I sure as hell wouldn't call him a snitch. I'm grateful that he's done what he's done following his arrest.

Oh he is a snitch all right. The investigators and lawyers describe him as proactive and cooperating. That means he's a mole and is reporting and probably wearing a wire ,running around chatting up everyone he knows about how to avoid the investigation. As I said, squealing like a stuck Democrat.

Dr. Evil Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:09 pm

I'm pretty astonished at how little respect you guys have for upholding the democratic process. Taking a knee during the national anthem pales in comparison to colluding with a foreign government to sway your own election. And yet you commies don't seem to be the least bit interested in getting to the bottom of this while you would gladly boycott the NFL over people exercising their first amendment right. What gives? Why the selective, misguided patriotism?

Jammer Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:50 am

Dr. Evil wrote:I'm pretty astonished at how little respect you guys have for upholding the democratic process. Taking a knee during the national anthem pales in comparison to colluding with a foreign government to sway your own election. And yet you commies don't seem to be the least bit interested in getting to the bottom of this while you would gladly boycott the NFL over people exercising their first amendment right. What gives? Why the selective, misguided patriotism?

And you are a misguided fagqot.

Dr. Evil Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:58 am

I can't remember if I posted this in that shiitstorm yesterday. This seems to be a rather ominous message from the Justice Department.

Special counsel's office: Papadopoulos 'small part' of 'large scale investigation'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/special-counsel-papadopoulos-small-part-of-large-scale-investigation/index.html

There's this one as well apparently Herr Drumpf is feeling the burn a bit... So It Begins..... - Page 3 1106906410

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/donald-trump-mueller-reaction/index.html

Clicker Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:59 am

Dr. Evil wrote:I'm pretty astonished at how little respect you guys have for upholding the democratic process. Taking a knee during the national anthem pales in comparison to colluding with a foreign government to sway your own election. And yet you commies don't seem to be the least bit interested in getting to the bottom of this while you would gladly boycott the NFL over people exercising their first amendment right. What gives? Why the selective, misguided patriotism?

Putting Alinsky to work again I see. Accusing us of misguided patriotism is a real yuk fest. You squeal and screech, only when you lose I might add, over unproven allegations and yet you ignore and even advocate for illegal voting around the country.

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