The differences between conservatives and liberals

Jammer wrote:Before I “leave the field” I just couldn’t help myself.  This is just so “spot on” when describing the difference between a conservative and a liberal.

https://www.golifa.com/difference-conservative-progressive/

Jammer wrote:It is amazing what communist liberals consider education.  Take a look at one of the senior year classes at San Diego State University consists of:

https://sunspot.sdsu.edu/schedule/sectiondetails?scheduleNumber=32129&period=20172&admin_unit=R

Doesn’t a fair, healthy, sustainable food systems both locally and globally make you FEEL GOOD?   Is there any doubt whether a conservative or liberal would take this course?  Or is there any doubt that whoever does take it will probably end up having taxpayers stuck with their college loan and providing a lifetime of welfare?

LIBERALISM IS EVIL

Clicker wrote:

Jammer wrote:It is amazing what communist liberals consider education.  Take a look at one of the senior year classes at San Diego State University consists of:

https://sunspot.sdsu.edu/schedule/sectiondetails?scheduleNumber=32129&period=20172&admin_unit=R

Doesn’t a fair, healthy, sustainable food systems both locally and globally make you FEEL GOOD?   Is there any doubt whether a conservative or liberal would take this course?  Or is there any doubt that whoever does take it will probably end up having taxpayers stuck with their college loan and providing a lifetime of welfare?

LIBERALISM IS EVIL

They renamed underwater basket weaving!!!!

Jammer wrote:It is amazing what communist liberals consider education.  Take a look at one of the senior year classes at San Diego State University consists of:

https://sunspot.sdsu.edu/schedule/sectiondetails?scheduleNumber=32129&period=20172&admin_unit=R

Doesn’t a fair, healthy, sustainable food systems both locally and globally make you FEEL GOOD?   Is there any doubt whether a conservative or liberal would take this course?  Or is there any doubt that whoever does take it will probably end up having taxpayers stuck with their college loan and providing a lifetime of welfare?

LIBERALISM IS EVIL

"I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,”

SUMMATION OF conversations on this subject ...

Yeah, it's not like everybody is dumber then a box of rocks and unable to understand the overall UNSTATED message.
(Just another opportunity to express insatiable hatred)

Can anybody imagine the deafening public uproar if one of those 49 LE visits to Nikolas Cruz or his social media posts had resulted in taking Cruz's guns?

Those same folks trying to impress us with their psychic ability telling what the authors of the 2nd Amendment actually meant and what guns can be possessed would have been out in force demonstrating about gross unconstitutional violation of the 4th Amendment.

It is painfully obvious nothing proactive is wanted to prevent future murders, even though previous mass murders revealed many warning signs that "experts" said should have been acted on.

It is painfully obvious the only proactive action those 2nd Amendment psychics along with those who would scream "violation of the 4th Amendment" would support to prevent future murders is to identify "scary looking guns" and banning them.

Skeptical wrote:

Doesn't take too much of a stretch to think the Liberals would sacrifice people to mass shootings at the hands of a deranged person so they can continue pursuing their agenda of abolishing the 2nd Amendment and getting rid of all guns.

Skeptical wrote:
There are so many on the Left .. and sadly a few on the Right trying to blow smoke up our backside as to what the 2nd Amendment really means

So, here is take on the 2nd Amendment;

The 2nd Amendment

There were a few iterations before a final version was ratified, such as ...

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person"

"A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms"

"A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person."

"A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person"

"A well regulated militia, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

While some versions had differences in wording there were some differences only in punctuation.

The one that was ratified by the several states and is currently in the Bill of Rights.;
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

The wordings above and the particular time it was written/ratified can help determine possible reasoning/ thoughts of the writers of the 2nd Amendment..
This young country just fought a long and bloody war of Independence from England.
The British had a formidable standing army and navy.
The newly declared United States of America had neither.
Those who craved independence ... farmers, merchants, teachers, lawyers, and what not grabbed their rifles and muskets and became the army commanded by George Washington.  This "militia" prevailed against all odds over the British.  

While many of those who fought for freedom went back to their former occupations some did not and more than not became part of what we now call the U.S. military.

In short, even though a standing military force was created during this time for common national defense the right of the individual was preserved (as a natural/God given right) for self defense, safety and security.

Skeptical wrote:

Speaking of gun control in the aftermath of the heinous mass murder in Parkland, FL a devout Liberal and avid Trump hater mocked the President when he made this comment,

"I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,”

A conservative poster responded this way,

SUMMATION OF conversations on this subject ...

Yeah, it's not like everybody is dumber then a box of rocks and unable to understand the overall UNSTATED message.
(Just another opportunity to express insatiable hatred)

Can anybody imagine the deafening public uproar if one of those 49 LE visits to Nikolas Cruz or his social media posts had resulted in taking Cruz's guns?

Those same folks trying to impress us with their psychic ability telling what the authors of the 2nd Amendment actually meant and what guns can be possessed would have been out in force demonstrating about gross unconstitutional violation of the 4th Amendment.

It is painfully obvious nothing proactive is wanted to prevent future murders, even though previous mass murders revealed many warning signs that "experts" said should have been acted on.

It is painfully obvious the only proactive action those 2nd Amendment psychics along with those who would scream "violation of the 4th Amendment" would support to prevent future murders is to identify "scary looking guns" and banning them.

Doesn't take too much of a stretch to think the Liberals would sacrifice people to mass shootings at the hands of a deranged person so they can continue pursuing their agenda of abolishing the 2nd Amendment and getting rid of all guns.

Jammer wrote:


There is almost a total lack of understand what the militia in the United States consisted of.  Many people think it is our military and an even larger number think that the militia is the National Guard.  However, that is not correct.  Under the US Code, Title 10, section 31, the militia of each state included all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and under 45 years of age who are or have made a declaration to become citizens.  

With the women’s rights effort and females in the military, I am sure that if there ever was a need to call up the “militia”, FEMALES would also have to be included.

Skeptical wrote:
Thank you Jammer for adding correction and clarity to my earlier comment;

While many of those who fought for freedom went back to their former occupations some did not and more than not became part of what we now call the U.S. military.

Those who went back home after helping this new country win independence in hopes of picking where they left off  were still part of the "militia"

Jammer wrote:It looks this place has finally closed shop.  That is too bad as it really is a pretty good forum site.  You would have thought that us conservatives could have figured out a way to use it to advance the conservative cause.  OH WELL!!!

I will just end with one final thought on this thread.  I guess I could have saved a lot of time and just summed up the differences between conservatives and liberals with two simple phrases.  They are:

CONSERVATIVES = GOOD
LIBERALS = EVIL

Jammer wrote:Conservatives are self-reliant and take care of themselves.  As such, they purchase their own food using the money they earned.  As a result, they waste little if any which is really a defining trait of a conservative.

Liberals on the other hand rely on the government to take care of them.  The various forms of welfare payments they receive include SNAP (the old food stamp programs redesigned to be politically correct) which you can see them using every day at grocery stores and Walmart stores across the country.  They buy lots of food, as evidenced by many of their waist sizes) BECAUSE IT IS FREE.  Since THEY didn’t have to pay for the food themselves, they don’t care how much they waste and now the reports are beginning to reveal the immense waste of resources (food and taxpayer dollars) by REPRESSIVE LIBERALS.

http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/lifestyle/food/4434094-americans-waste-about-quarter-food-they-buy-and-environmental-consequences

Jammer wrote:Conservatives are self-reliant and take care of themselves.  As such, they purchase their own food using the money they earned.  As a result, they waste little if any which is really a defining trait of a conservative.

Liberals on the other hand rely on the government to take care of them.  The various forms of welfare payments they receive include SNAP (the old food stamp programs redesigned to be politically correct) which you can see them using every day at grocery stores and Walmart stores across the country.  They buy lots of food, as evidenced by many of their waist sizes) BECAUSE IT IS FREE.  Since THEY didn’t have to pay for the food themselves, they don’t care how much they waste and now the reports are beginning to reveal the immense waste of resources (food and taxpayer dollars) by REPRESSIVE LIBERALS.

http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/lifestyle/food/4434094-americans-waste-about-quarter-food-they-buy-and-environmental-consequences